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Topic : anti-bradford special interest group |
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| ealteacher |
Following a posting on an earlier thread: If Peter implemented a special area for anti-Bradford posters to exchange views, it might improve the viewer experience of Silsden.net. In all seriousness, how does the repetitive blaming of Bradford help anyone move forward? |
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| victor |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) I was very serious when I suggested a Bradford posting, because most of us get fed up when just about all posts end up with moans about Bradford council. If more of us support this idea then Peter might oblige. |
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| dexter |
Agree....too much Bradford bashing, can't see the point unless it is a specific complaint. Would rather be part of Bradford than Craven, their tax is much higher and they don't seem to do any better. It's probably a historic thing that bugs some people, rather than a practical issue. |
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| gazzer |
You could just ignore comments on Bradford or better still blow other peoples arguments away with reasoned argument. It is a "discussion" thread with should not have censorship. You could have a "Bradford" thread but you cant stop posting about Bradford on other subjects. |
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| victor |
There is censorship on the site. I was trying to talk about what I believe to be the unelected SIlsden Town council and when one of the supporters of the council was loosing the argument and said it was time for the post to be closed it was closed. So there is censorship even though I did not insult anyone call anyone names or swear the post was closed. |
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| ealteacher |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Gazzer said: You could have a "Bradford" thread but you cant stop posting about Bradford on other subjects. Excellent idea! There could be two systems: 1. an Anti-Bradford special interest group where all the backward-looking comments could be repeated to the posters' heart's content 2. All constructive, forward-looking comments which promote all our interests to be included as and when in any post Posters themselves to decide where their comments belong. |
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| skippy |
victor all the people who are on any council are elected one way or another. I don't see where you are coming from with this? |
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| jonno |
Have you considered that maybe people are not in fact anti-Bradford but are just against corruption, greed, incompetence, lying, hypocracy etc and it just so happens that Bradford Council provide a rich source of these things for people to talk about? And isn't the very definition of a forum a place for people to talk about things? Saying we should just be positive and forward looking and not be negative is like saying we should ignore all the wrongs done in the past and present and not worry about holding people to account for their bad actions, you know, like we do in a democracy. |
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| ealteacher |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Jonno thanks for your reply. 'Corruption', 'incompetence' and 'lying' are very very serious things in public office. I am all in favour of these things being brought forward to public notice. If substantiated, then punitive public action should absolutely certainly be taken. But is this what happens on this forum? any substantiation resulting in action? The history of the last century shows that a positive and forward looking approach is the only hope we have for reconciliation and progress. Just trying to be objective and, like you, I have a high regard for democracy |
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| grandad |
Yes Skippy once again you are correct, Victor is talk his usual load of rubbish. All of the Town councillors are properly elected onto the council, if he can't understand the proper legal process, then I would suggest he talks to any member of any council. |
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| gazzer |
quoteYes Skippy once again you are correct, Victor is talk his usual load of rubbish. All of the Town councillors are properly elected onto the council, if he can't understand the proper legal process, then I would suggest he talks to any member of any council. Victors does not talk rubbish its his view like anybody its a public forum we can all say what we think |
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| grandad |
Gazzer it is rubbish to say that the Town Councillors have not been elected, because they have, it has been explained several time to him and he continues to repeat the same load of rubbish. |
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| victor |
Grandad and Skippy please read my post. In it I said that there was censorship on this site and I gave the reasons why I believed this. I am not going down the road of discussing the Town council because it will probably be censored by supporters of the Town council. |
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| Peter |
quoteGrandad and Skippy please read my post. In it I said that there was censorship on this site and I gave the reasons why I believed this. I am not going down the road of discussing the Town council because it will probably be censored by supporters of the Town council. Victor please don't stop there. I would like to know why you think the STC is not constitutionally formed and why you think this forum is censored. BTW Ealteacher you will have noticed this post, and a few before, has nothing to do with topic you started and a good example of why the new topic area you suggest would not work. (: |
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| grandad |
quoteThere is censorship on the site. I was trying to talk about what I believe to be the unelected SIlsden Town council and when one of the supporters of the council was loosing the argument and said it was time for the post to be closed it was closed. So there is censorship even though I did not insult anyone call anyone names or swear the post was closed. Victor Your post is quoted above, I have read it, once again you mention that you believe the Town Council is unelected, yes I suggested that he topic should be closed, WHY? because there wasn't any more to be said, the Town council is properly elected and you have been told this many times by many different people, but you still insist on repeating the same load of rubbish time and time again, you are the one who as lost the argument not the supporters of the Properly elected Town Council. You have not once said why you believe that the Town Council is not elected. You are trying to use the same technique used by the Nazis, tell a lie for long enough and some people will begin to believe it, well some might but not the ones who know the truth. |
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| victor |
Grandad please READ MY POST the point was CENSORSHIP and not what was being said. I think your attitude is more akin to the NAZIS than mine. |
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| grandad |
Victor, ANSWER both mine and Peters question!!!! |
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| victor |
Peter my comment about censorship was made because just over a year ago that is what I believe to have happened. I had been making comments about the Town council and a supporter of the T.C. said that the topic should be closed and I said you wish. The Topic was closed with no explanation and that is why I believe I was censured. |
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| victor |
Grandad what is the point when you don't read the answers. |
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| grandad |
Victor, once again you evade the question, just in case you can't remember it I will repeat it, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT SILSDEN TOWN COUNCILLORS ARE UNELECTED? that is the main thing you have been banging on about, so answer it. |
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| victor |
Grandad are you any good with a water board. |
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| grandad |
quoteVictor, once again you evade the question, just in case you can't remember it I will repeat it, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT SILSDEN TOWN COUNCILLORS ARE UNELECTED? that is the main thing you have been banging on about, so answer it. |
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| Pennypeck |
Could it be that Victor is referring to the co-opting of replacement members when a vacancy occurs as being his/her reason to insist that the Council is not democratically elected? In my ignorance of these things, one assumes that there is some mandatory procedure followed when replacing members in this way. Out of interest, are there any current co-opted members? |
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| grandad |
quoteCould it be that Victor is referring to the co-opting of replacement members when a vacancy occurs as being his/her reason to insist that the Council is not democratically elected? In my ignorance of these things, one assumes that there is some mandatory procedure followed when replacing members in this way. Out of interest, are there any current co-opted members? Yes and yes, but why doesn't Victor state why he believes the Town Councillors are unelected? He is trying to imply that something untoward is going on within Silsden Town Council, when we all know there isn't. |
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| Peter |
Victor, the ONLY topic I can find which was closed and which you contributed to was www.silsden.net/forum/philboard_read.asp?id=1335 The topic was started in 2009 and resurrected in 2014 and was closed for the reason I gave as the last post on the topic. You have not answered the question I asked: I would like to know why YOU think the STC is not constitutionally formed. |
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| grandad |
Peter, Victor is running scared now he knows that he is wrong and won't admit it. |
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| midway |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) After reading victors original post does anyone know the last time a Parish councillor was elected by Silsden voters This thread is now closed, it looks a bit like censorship 28/07/2012 |
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| Peter |
I believe this is the post in question: www.silsden.net/forum/philboard_read.asp?id=4474 It was closed with the suggestion that Victor contacts the clerk for STC who would be able to answer his questions. Victor did you contact the clerk? This forum is not the place for a public witch hunt. Contact details for the Town Clerk can be found here: www.silsden.net/town_council/docs_13/13_notice/COUNCIL_DATES_2013-14.pdf |
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| victor |
this post has been edited 2 time(s) Peter please see (Silsden Town Statement) last post 27/07/2012. At that time I believed this to be unfair censorship. |
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| ealteacher |
this post has been edited 3 time(s) This is what I understand of the situation re 'elected' or not and I may be wrong but I hope people will be gentle in putting me right because gentleness promotes free speech. I understand that the town councillors are unpaid and I know that this position entails time, thought and skills which the town should be grateful for. I understand that there are not enough people often to fill the council so council positions are not put up for election as there is no need. I understand that councillors have been referred to as 'elected representatives' in public documents. So either this use of 'elected representatives' is a misrepresentation or there was no reference in any public document to the council members as 'elected representatives' or are they elected unopposed and only by people already on the council. Have I got it wrong? |
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| victor |
Grandad have you looked at the post I was commenting on, OR are you still not interested in the Truth. |
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| Peter |
quotePeter please see (Silsden Town Statement) last post 27/07/2012. At that time I believed this to be unfair censorship. Sorry,you are going to have to give me a clue as to what you are referring to here - please post the address in your web browser address bar, and a bit of the text if you like. ... and did you contact the clerk of STC? |
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| victor |
this post has been edited 2 time(s) Peter you will find it under search ( council elections ) it does not come up when you put Silsden Town Statement I don't know why. When both of my posts were closed I thought what was the point if I was to be censored. PS I did not use the site again for about 18 months. |
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| Peter |
If you use this link www.silsden.net/forum/philboard.asp it will show the real address of the forum. Please find the page in question and post the address in youir browser address bar here. |
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| grandad |
Victor, I have to hand it to you; you are a master of misdirection, You make the statement that the Town Council is unelected, then when you are proved wrong you set off on a different subject all together, in the hope we will not remember your accusation, Well sorry to disappoint you but until you answer the question I will not stop asking it! |
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| victor |
www.silsden.net/forum/philboard_read.asp?id=4473#.U4Dny41OVMs Peter Hope this is right. |
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