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Topic : 71 Dwellings Off Bolton Road |
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| Peter |
Residential development | Land At Bolton Road Silsden West Yorkshire  TO SEE ALL THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS www.planning4bradford.com/online-applications/ Search for 14/05170/MAO Comments due in by 31 December 2014 |
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| old_miner |
Looks reasonable. Transport bit worth reading. Plenty about cycling and walking, but no mention that it is well up a hill! As whole zone is down for housing which supermarket chain will go to the factory site? The country needs a lot more housing. Top end of Silsden is more logical than lower. We live in interesting times. |
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| Raver |
Yes, factory site will also be at the end of the by-pass so would make a fantastic location for a supermarket. Let's hope for Booths or Waitrose! |
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| ginjo |
could someone explain in simple terms which factory site raver is talking about and where on the bypass is it? I am a bit confused, I thought this was all about housing up Bolton road/north street.sorry but I don't understand |
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| Peter |
Raver is totally confused. This housing is at the top of Bolton Road and starts just past Tannery Corner. The entrance to the site will be where the traffic island is at the moment. The plans move the traffic island further up towards Cringles IE the 30phh??? restriction will be moved further out. Next time you drive past the traffic island going towards Cringles look at your speed and tell me you are doing 30mph because that was what is in the report for the traffic speed going up the hill. As far as a bypass is concerned dream on. |
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| Peter |
PS Correction to the number of houses, the heading should read 61 houses not 71. They can't build the recommended number required for the size of the plot because it's a difficult plot with lots of water problems (flooding) and they have to do some landscaping. |
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| dogcatcher |
great stuff as i always said the more we breed more houses we`ll need  |
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| gazzer |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Conversation with the Labour leader on Twitter. GAZZER @silsdengary Dec 12 @dave4wibsey On Radio Leeds you once said Bfd Council wont allow large scale housing in Silsden until road infrastructure sorted.Still true? David Green @dave4wibsey Dec 12 @silsdengary my view remains that infrastructure should be in place before housing occupied GAZZER @silsdengary @dave4wibsey Thanks.Occupied or built though?.If built the infrastructure will never happen 3:41 AM - 12 Dec 2014 Tweet text Reply to @dave4wibsey David Green @dave4wibsey Dec 12 @silsdengary the 2 go together as houses need to be occupied for developers to get money back. It is important we get the phasing right |
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| ginjo |
are Bradford assuming that the proposals in the development plan will be approved? it has not been published yet and will then go to public consultation and probably a public inquiry if enough people object.Not sure when the plan is out anyone else know? |
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| Peter |
NOTE This is for OUTLINE PLANNING PERMISSION The deadline for comments on this planning application has been extended until 12 January 2015 TO SEE ALL THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS www.planning4bradford.com/online-applications/ Search for 14/05170/MAO Comments due in by 12 January 2015 |
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| ginjo |
my previous comment was in response to a twitter conversation between Bradford and gazzer which seemed to be about the local development plan(was udp).It was that plan to which my previous post referred not the proposal for Bolton road |
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| Peter (admin) |
quotemy previous comment was in response to a twitter conversation between Bradford and gazzer which seemed to be about the local development plan(was udp).It was that plan to which my previous post referred not the proposal for Bolton road You are taking this thread off topic - please start a new topic if you wish to talk about Neighbourhood Planning. Gazzer was making the point infrastructure should be adequate before development is considered. |
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| ginjo |
gazer must have been taking it off topic as well then ,how come he didn't get told off! |
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| Peter |
Hi ginjo, I think you misinterpreted my last post about outline planning permission and the due date change for comments on the application - this was an update announcement on the original post - nothing more. As far as this topic is concerned it is really just to make people aware an outline planning application has been submitted to build 61 houses at the top of Silsden off Bolton Road. If this gets approved the builders will have to submit another set of plans detailing what they are actually going to build on the site, but in principle they will be able to build something. Building any more houses in Silsden will not address the fact there are no primary school places, the sewerage system is at capacity, and new building will not help the flooding problems. The roads are extremely busy at commuter times and any small incident can gridlock the town and surrounding roads within minutes. IE there is a lack of infrastructure. __________________ On the UDP - LDF - Neighbourhood plan 1) The Replacement Unitary Development Plan (RUDP) is currently in force. 2) The Council’s Planning Policy Team (Bradford) is now in the process of preparing a new Local Plan. This is also known as the Local Development Framework (LDF). The Local Plan for the Bradford District will be made up of a collection of planning documents that will guide future growth and development for housing, employment, leisure and retail for the next 10-20 years. 3) The purpose of a Neighbourhood Plan is to give the people at a local parish level some degree of control over where and how developments take place within the parish. However, a Neighbourhood Plan cannot prevent or overrule the planning policies of the relevant Planning Authority. References www.bradford.gov.uk/bmdc/the_environment/planning_service/unitary_development_plan www.bradford.gov.uk/bmdc/the_environment/planning_service/local_development_framework/what_is_a_development_plan.htm news.silsden.net/archives/1601 ______________________ It is easy to take topics off subject so please don't take offence but this topic is really about this development application which is happening now, and not plans for the future when hopefully there will be adequate infrastructure in place. |
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| Peter |
JUST TO REMIND YOU quoteNOTE This is for OUTLINE PLANNING PERMISSION The deadline for comments on this planning application has been extended until 12 January 2015 TO SEE ALL THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS www.planning4bradford.com/online-applications/ Search for 14/05170/MAO Comments due in by 12 January 2015 |
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| skippy |
we will be discussing this on thurs eve . |
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| basil |
quotewe will be discussing this on thurs eve . Hi Skippy, what was the outcome of your discussions? |
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| midway |
So what was the outcome of your discussions?anybody,somebody,(PLEASE). |
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| Pennypeck |
Midway, Whilst my recent post in the "More congestion for Keighley Road" thread was about a different matter, there is mention of the Bolton Road issue and the pursuant discussion and outcome. |
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| midway |
Thank you for that Pennypeck. |
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| midway |
I am confused ----Peter--why didn't you post the results of the meeting re, bolton road on this topic?? |
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| Peter |
quoteI am confused ----Peter--why didn't you post the results of the meeting re, bolton road on this topic?? See the excellent write-up by Penypeck here x-ref silsden.net/forum/philboard_read.asp?id=7222 |
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| skippy |
as I promised at Thursdays meeting, a meeting will take place between6 and 8pm on wed 28th jan in the town hall,i will have the agent with me and possibly my ward collegue Adrian Naylor, we will do our upmost to answer all questions as best we can. I am also asking that the application goes to area panel at a later date, I will again let everybody know when this will be. |
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| gazzer |
This could affect future planning apps www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/11738147.Planning_decision_has_devastating_consequences_for_district_s_open_spaces__senior_councillor_warns/ |
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| Peter |
Just received from Bradford Residential development at Land At Bolton Road Silsden West Yorkshire I write to let you know that the above planning application is to be discussed at the next meeting of the Regulatory and Appeals Committee to be held on 2 April 2015 at City Hall Bradford at 10.00 am. |
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| skippy |
well done peter you beat me to it |
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| skippy |
ha beat you to this though peter. we also today managed to get this thrown out as well , members did not like that it was so far out of the town, the town centre is always slow moving or gridlocked, and maybe its time for a 7.5 ton weight limit. also they said maybe its time to have some sort of masterplan for silsden bearing in mind that we are now looking at 1200 new houses and little infrastrucuture.again well done everybody who spoke. |
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| hat |
Sounds like the needs of the town are being heard, great result on both counts. Well done to all involved |
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| Peter |
The decision notice news.silsden.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/BoltonRoad_planning_decision.pdf |
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| old_miner |
First paragraph a bit weird. It is on a bus route and no further from amenities, up a hill than much of Silsden. Traffic access is fair comment, although they allowed Aldi in a similar situation and potential for much more traffic. Possibly plenty of grounds for an appeal. |
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| midway |
Developer wins appeal to build 62 new homes www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/14157983.Developer_wins_appeal_to_build_62_new_homes/ |
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| Peter |
The outline application for the fields off Bolton Road, Silsden, had been rejected by Bradford Council's regulatory and appeals committee in April, despite planning officers recommending approval. But David Cullingford, the Government inspector appointed to consider the developer's appeal, concluded that any adverse effects of the scheme would not outweigh the benefits of such a substantial amount of new homes. Ruling in favour of the applicant, he judged that access arrangements for the site would not compromise road safety, and argued that the new homes would not be too far away from local amenities. Remember these words when there is a serious accident at this location, and an increase in flooding at lower levels. |
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| midway |
Can i quote Peter "Next time you drive past the traffic island going towards Cringles look at your speed and tell me you are doing 30mph because that was what is in the report for the traffic speed going up the hill."  This photo is taken at the position of the entrance to the site, in my opinion and from my observation every vehicle driving up bolton road accelerated into the corner. So it makes no sense positioning extra warning signs and a speed camera for traffic going down the hill.  |
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| gazzer |
We are in a situation where the truth is omitted or distorted or just plain made up. Look at Bradford Council leader Dave Green's false promise of no major housing until infrastructure sorted out The building of the houses behind the Grouse near the trees Habisit stating they needed the Aldi supermarket to go ahead to preserve jobs in Silsden The planning for access from Keighley Rd through the old caravan yard Bradford Council failing to record flooding on St John St in 2002(and other dates) meaning it is not taken in to consideration when planning applied for higher up the valley(Bolton RD) When CIL replaces Section 106 Bradford Council will set the levy so low it will encourage house building in Silsden Tory Councillors holding meetings which they advertised as "Bradford Council meetings" Transdev changing the bus route away from the main street and blaming near misses even though their out of service buses still use Kirkgate Bradford telling us they can't afford plants then spending money on a temporary park in central Bradford It goes on and on with not a lot we can do about it |
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| victor |
midway I wonder why we did not have the same objections to the Daisy Hill houses. |
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| Golden Oldie |
One would assume that these houses will not be built until such times as the infrastructure is in place, or do the powers that be think that will hopefully be forgotten!! Also, with the houses that have been built recently, will they be added to list of dwellings to be built. |
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