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Topic : dog shooting |
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| bandnwire |
It's just on the radio about a farmer shooting a dog which was on his land. Apparently he had put a sign up stating that people should keep their dogs on a lead and if one was found wandering it would be shot. |
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| ginjo |
fair enough his land, warning sign in place. dogs should be on leads at all times. I don't dislike dogs but I am a bit wary of them and several times when I have been out walking, dogs have run up to me and jumped up, covering me in mud and not so much as an apology from the owner. |
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| Loafer |
If it was worrying his livestock then he was possibly within his rights, if it wasn't he's in trouble. |
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| localman |
I would have no qualms about shooting dogs or cats so if any ones needs me let me know but it has to be legal  I know it is legal to shoot a dog on farm land but when can you legally kill a horrid moggy  |
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| Loafer |
You are so wrong Localman. |
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| greengrass |
SHOOT THE FARMER Any body who shoots my dog ill shoot theres |
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| roosterman |
can only legally shoot a dog on farmland if its been reported to the police on at least 2 times,if its worrying livestock on the 3rd time then the landowner is within his/hers right to shoot,anyless and he/she is liable,thats the law |
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| localman |
roosterman you are wrong a farmer can shoot a dog if it is in his field and is worrying his live stock, axtract of the law attached no mention of informing the police first? trust me I have seen dogs shot for this in Silsden. 3) Subject to subsection (4) of this section, a person killing or causing injury to a dog shall be deemed for the purposes of this section to act for the protection of any livestock if, and only if, either: (a) the dog is worrying or is about to worry the livestock and there are no other reasonable means of ending or preventing the worrying; or (b) the dog has been worrying livestock, has not left the vicinity and is not under the control of any person and there are no practical means of ascertaining to whom it belongs. Extract from the Animals Act 1971 |
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| old tramp |
localman you are correct with what you say the law states that all dogs must be kept under control not nesscessarly on a lead but common sense should be used at all times any dog that is stock broken can turn. as stated a farmer cant just shoot a dog on his land that has to be the last option. |
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| roosterman |
whatever localman,i know what the law is |
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| localman |
roosterman again you do not know the law please do not come on hear and make things up please read the text below under the heading farmer's rights this IS THE LAW What happens to the dog that has sheep worried? The law states: Where a dog has attacked or killed livestock the court shall make an order directing the dog to be destroyed. Where it appears to a court that a dog has chased livestock in such a way as might reasonably have been expected to cause injury or suffering to the livestock or to result in financial loss to the owner of the livestock the court shall: Make an order directing the dog to be destroyed; or Make an order directing the dog to be kept confined in a building, shed, yard or other enclosure from which it cannot escape. By law a dog suspected of sheep worrying must be proven guilty beyond doubt before any destruction order is passed. Farmer’s rights The law presently states that if a dog is unaccompanied in a field with sheep, and without the landowner’s consent, farmers are legally protected in shooting the dog on the spot. Likewise, if all reasonable attempts to restrain the dog have been taken the farmer is equally justified in shooting the dog. |
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| roosterman |
absolute twaddle,localman,get out of your arse |
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| solitaire |
As we as all other previous comments, I would like to point out that you cannot just shoot cats ! This is also a criminal offence punishable by law. |
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| ciderman |
www.naturenet.net/law/dogs.html |
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| roosterman |
sorry localman,take it all back,you is right as per usual lol |
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| Bricol |
I don't think I often agree with localman, but on this occcasion, he's right, and I completely agree. Both sets of my grandparents, farmers both, have destroyed dogs that were worrying livestock, once in-front of the idiot owner. Once you have done so, there is then a requirement to inform the Police, who basicallg come and check the dog was destroyed, with a legally owned weapon, and not allowed to suffer, unlike the livestock that's been chased until it dropped, or mauled so it too needed destroying. A lot of townies do seem to have a rather strange view of their rights in the "countryside", forgetting the land is actually owned and worked by someone. There is some responsibilty attached to taking an animal down a public footpath across farm land, especially if there is livestock present. Bri |
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| Loafer |
Well, judging by his backtrack, localman has learned a point or two about the law and shooting things. Hopefully some of the idiot farmers around will also realise they cannot endanger whatever they wish on their subsidised properties. One day one of them might even have to explain exactly how a trained herding dog is not 'worrying' sheep. |
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| roosterman |
ginjo,the dog in question wouldnt happen to be a golden labrador/retriever would it? |
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| ginjo |
roosterman, no it wasn't a labrador/retriever, its has happened a few times, different dogs, canal towpath is a good example, owners let dogs off lead, dogs run ahead and jump up at you, owners either ignore whats happening or make a half hearted attempt at calling the dog which usually takes no notice!It can be scary particularly for children, they don't know whether the dog is friendly or whether it is going to bite!I have seen a king charles type dog run down mitchell lane on several occasions and jump straight into the duck pond chasing the ducks(and ducklings) the owner just lets it get on with it, it really annoys me. |
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| roosterman |
ok,just theres a bloke who goes up into park with 2 golden labradors/retrievers and 1 of them always goes running upto either your own dog that u have on a lead or jumps up on u,told him many a time to call the dog back but he just ignores,many people have got pissed of with him,just looks a clever arrogant sod he does |
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| localman |
Roosterman thanks, Loafer I have not backtracked on anything so I do not understand the point you are trying to put across I think you may have typed the wrong name in |
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| roosterman |
localman,i think he probs meant me,im only presuming,i thought that when i read it as well |
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| Loafer |
No, I meant you localman "I would have no qualms about shooting dogs or cats so if any ones needs me let me know but it has to be legal I know it is legal to shoot a dog on farm land but when can you legally kill a horrid moggy" Quote, unquote. Unless YOU are a farmer and a dog is worrying YOUR livestock nobody is going to be giving you a call. You would have no legal right to shoot anything causing problems..... |
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| Peter |
I think this topic is taking a worrying and unhealthy trend, therefore I'm closing it. |
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