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Peter
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19/05/2014 : 14:36:26      reply with quote


On Thursday you should go to the Town Hall and vote. There is no point moaning on here about local housing, roads, parks, etc. if you can't be bothered to vote. It won't change anything is not an excuse.

On Thursday there are two elections, to vote for an MEP, I guess you will do the usual thing and vote for your political persuasion or perhaps make a protest vote and vote for UKIP.

However, the local elections should not follow party lines and I think you should vote for whoever you will you think will do the best job for your local community.

The candidates for Craven Ward (2 seats) are:
Christopher Atkinson (Ind); Val Carroll (Labour); Catherine Coates (Ind); Kathryn Forrest (Green); Sam Harris (Lib Dem); Andrew Mallinson* (Conservative); Luke Maunsell (Labour); David Mullen (Ind); Michael Powell (Lib Dem); Andrew Rowley (Conservative).

A few are not local, ie do not live in the Craven Ward, how can they promise anything when they don't understand the problems. One is going to college in September, you will waste you vote there!

My vote goes to the hard working local people but you must make your own mind up.

An overview of the candidates can be found here
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gazzer
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19/05/2014 : 16:12:35      reply with quote


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Very little information about the candidates but today the Tory flyer came. Mallinson says he is proud to serve the community but as we all know dictates to the community and will not even talk to the Town Council.
Andy Rowley has been campaigning locally for years, coming from Shipley I dont think he means locally to Craven. Not sure why the Tour de France gets a mention..looks like Mr Mallinson brought it to Yorkshire single handed.
Mr Mallinson is keen to claim his hard work secured the £400,000 for the Town Hall. As it is £100k(1/4 or 25%) over budget maybe should keep quiet on that. As reminder original cost here
news.silsden.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/SilsdenTownHall_Cost_Estimate_17-04-13.pdf

Mr Mallinson has spoken publicly many times in support of thousands of new houses in Silsden, in particular at a business meeting in the Town Hall a few years ago. Now he claims he can protect our green belt.

Mr Rowley is on twitter having a go at the Town Council so his pledge to work for Silsden goes out of the window if he will not work with the council

Andy Rowley ‏@arowley07 May 9

Resident of Silsden.. I did consider going on the Town council but when I went to a meeting I found it unwelcoming. Need I say more

Nothing from the other candidates other than Labour's Val Carroll in the Craven Herald letters to the editor. She said vote Labour to save the greenbelt in the same week Labour controlled Bradford Council published a newsletter promising well over a thousand new homes in Silsden!!!!!
Hopefully more from the other candidates before Thursday
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robin
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19/05/2014 : 16:28:33      reply with quote


I was "honoured" with a leaflet this morning, delivered by the man himself. I agree with Peter some of the candidates are not local. I have always thought political parties should be kept out of local elections, candidates must be able to focus on the area rather than towing the party line.
So far as the European election is concerned I have seen nothing, I have no idea whom is wishing to join or remain on the gravy train.
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19/05/2014 : 17:23:13      reply with quote


speaking of protest votes...

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Peter
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20/05/2014 : 10:11:11      reply with quote


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An overview of the candidates can be found here
news.silsden.net/archives/1134


I have now added information received from the local independents and the conservatives at the end of the article found here news.silsden.net/archives/1134

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gazzer
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20/05/2014 : 13:08:30      reply with quote


One of the candidates has reported to the police some of his posters have been vandalised. Not a very democratic thing to do.Elections should be fair and square.
I seem to remember at the last election a similar thing happened, did anything come of that as in was the culprit caught?
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20/05/2014 : 19:15:08      reply with quote


Well it wasn't me - but I have been sorely tempted....
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20/05/2014 : 19:31:51      reply with quote


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One of the candidates has reported to the police some of his posters have been vandalised. Not a very democratic thing to do.Elections should be fair and square.
I seem to remember at the last election a similar thing happened, did anything come of that as in was the culprit caught?
Given that the aforesaid signs are appearing like flies round a cow pat, shouldn't the candidates be prosecuted for fly posting when they are still there months later?

Is it pure coincidence that it is the same candidate that has made the report that was previously the topic of hot debate on this site, making similar accusations in the last elections?
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20/05/2014 : 19:38:57      reply with quote


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Well it wasn't me (removing election posters) - but I have been sorely tempted....
I think most people would remove an election poster if it was put up on YOUR land WITHOUT permission as I believe was the case.

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20/05/2014 : 20:34:54      reply with quote


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Is it pure coincidence that it is the same candidate that has made the report that was previously the topic of hot debate on this site, making similar accusations in the last elections?
I cant remember 100% but was it the candidate who is making the claims now who was suspected or tearing down posters?
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20/05/2014 : 22:08:45      reply with quote


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See a candidate answers post from silsden.net on his twitter account. Why does he not engage on here.
He has tried to discredit independent candidates saying one lives in Spain. It is actually someone who stood in Menston, not Silsden and who has stood down. It was corrected by a Tory collegue


Andy Rowley ‏@arowley07 4h

So one independent lives in Spain and votes with labour and the other also votes with labour. So vote independent and get labour policies.
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gazzer
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20/05/2014 : 22:20:11      reply with quote


I love fishing and it looks like I have caught one




Andy Rowley ‏@arowley07 2m

Beware you are being watched Silsden.net 😆but don't try to engage on there because you get trolled and bullied 😡
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20/05/2014 : 22:52:15      reply with quote


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Well it looks like its game over for now, he has blocked me


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Its a pity because its important that candidates engage with voters. Rowley has gone up in my estimation for answering questions ....anyone know other candidates social media
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midway
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21/05/2014 : 08:27:44      reply with quote


gazzer i have read your posts,but i don't understand any of them,is it me being a bit thick?
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21/05/2014 : 09:43:51      reply with quote


Please Vote because if you don't you wont have any right to complain , even if you vote for the very courteous wagon driving Australian.
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21/05/2014 : 11:47:57      reply with quote


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gazzer i have read your posts,but i don't understand any of them,is it me being a bit thick?
A candidate posted stuff on twitter against town council and the independent candidates.I and others posted stuff with a different view.It ended up anything posted on silsden.net was quickly answered on his twitter but not on here.I suggested I was fishing and he had taken the bait.He answered he was fishing and it was me who took the bait but then he stopped the uninvited seeong his twitter account
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21/05/2014 : 15:14:38      reply with quote


I have seen a suggestion that because Mr Naylor votes with Labour, if elected the Independent candidates would do the same.
Can the Independents confirm or deny any truth in this?
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midway
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21/05/2014 : 15:23:39      reply with quote


cheers gazzer i think i understand now ,was i reading one half of a conversation?.
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gazzer
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21/05/2014 : 15:49:07      reply with quote


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cheers gazzer i think i understand now ,was i reading one half of a conversation?.
Some bizarre stuff from Mr Rowley as he posted a picture of Vote Rowley and Vote Mallinson posters with the quote
"Hmmmm. Who should I vote for?"
I had to point out that as he doesnt live in Craven he better not try to vote for either.

Talking of living out of the area these are the candidates who live in the Craven Ward
Mr C Atkinson
V Carroll
C Coates
A Mallinson
D Mullen

The following candidates are political tourists living in Ilkley,Keighley or Shipley

K Forrest
S Harris
L Maunsell
M Powell
A Rowley
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21/05/2014 : 15:50:36      reply with quote


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I have seen a suggestion that because Mr Naylor votes with Labour, if elected the Independent candidates would do the same.
Can the Independents confirm or deny any truth in this?
I may not be politically savvy, but are not independent councillors free to vote as their conscience dictates on each issue, rather than as their party dictates, irrespective of their own feelings.
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21/05/2014 : 15:59:43      reply with quote


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I have seen a suggestion that because Mr Naylor votes with Labour, if elected the Independent candidates would do the same.
Can the Independents confirm or deny any truth in this?
I may not be politically savvy, but are not independent councillors free to vote as their conscience dictates on each issue, rather than as their party dictates, irrespective of their own feelings.
Yes sir, you are correct but this is what Mr Rowley said

Andy Rowley ‏@arowley07 May 8
Residents of Craven a vote for an independent is a vote for labour

and

Andy Rowley ‏@arowley07 May 9
Residents of Craven, a vote for independent = a vote for labour = higher taxes = more building on green belt land.

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Andy Rowley ‏@arowley07 May 9
Residents of Craven ward don't be fooled. A vote for the independents is a vote for Labour. The Silsden independent votes with Labour in Bfd



Intrestingly this is what the law says regarding the conduct of candidates

1.46 It is an illegal practice to make or publish a false statement of fact about the personal character or conduct of a candidate in order to affect the return of a candidate at an election.



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21/05/2014 : 16:42:22      reply with quote


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I find Mr Rowley's comments bizarre .

Why is he fighting the 2012 election with Cllr Naylor he lost that the candidates for this year do not include Cllr Naylor. Independents are just that they vote the way they think is best not blindly following party ideology.

Cllr Naylor has said publicly that the way he votes is to put the Craven Ward first and then Bradford second. Knowing the Independent candidates any of them will vote for what is best for Craven.

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21/05/2014 : 18:15:51      reply with quote


as a local born and bred where does mr Rowley think I will vote? it wont be for a party that's for sure, that's if I am lucky enough to get the votes. please all go out and vote tomorrow,we cant complain if we don't vote.
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21/05/2014 : 18:19:16      reply with quote


If Mr Rowley spent half the energy he devotes to negative campaigning telling us what other non Conservatives do he might be able to tell us some of his policies.
I have read his leaflet and I'm non the wiser what he would do for Silsden as he can only refer to the housing his government are forcing us to have .
The time for dealing with that at a local level has already past and I didn't see him commenting at the time nor come to think of it did I see Cllr Mallinson so neither can get involved in the next phase so what exactly can they offer us?????
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21/05/2014 : 18:30:28      reply with quote


countryman they will if elected probably do what Cllr mallinson has done since he was last elected(that's sod all) FOR THE PEOPLE OF SILSDEN, STEETON I THINK ITS JUST THE SAME. ADDINGAM MAY HAVE SEEN HIM ONCE OR TWICE.
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22/05/2014 : 08:26:36      reply with quote


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Dont forget to vote today for who YOU think best
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22/05/2014 : 08:40:25      reply with quote


We have heard much about the local elections, is there any information re- French common market candidates?
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22/05/2014 : 08:50:14      reply with quote


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We have heard much about the local elections, is there any information re- French common market candidates?
Yorkshire First looks an interesting concept
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22/05/2014 : 08:54:31      reply with quote


Sceptic

The party who wants us out of Europe are desperate to be elected to it and those who want us in Europe can't be bothered.
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22/05/2014 : 09:32:58      reply with quote


Now Mallinson thinks Naylor is standing today


Andrew Mallinson ‏@AndrewMallinso1 9h

@arowley07 how can independents be taken seriously when Naylor votes with Labour? People should know the truth. He is out to fool everyone.
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22/05/2014 : 13:12:47      reply with quote


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countryman they will if elected probably do what Cllr mallinson has done since he was last elected(that's sod all) FOR THE PEOPLE OF SILSDEN, STEETON I THINK ITS JUST THE SAME. ADDINGAM MAY HAVE SEEN HIM ONCE OR TWICE.
Does a lot for Cowling Parish Council where he works a parish clerk
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22/05/2014 : 13:16:30      reply with quote


I would expect an INDEPENDENT to vote for the best option for the ward they represent ie I would expect them to vote with labour or conservative as needs dictated to get the best result for the people and I definitely would not expect them to toe a party line.

When you vote don't forget to pop across the road and donate an armful at the methodist church. The blood suckers need YOU www.silsden.net/events/2014/blood_22May2014.pdf
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