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pumbajunior
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18/07/2012 : 06:41:25      reply with quote


To the owner of Henry the black and white Spaniel
A couple of tips

1. not a good idea to have your dog out of eyesight off the lead it might be the most placid dog in the world but its still a wild animal with a brain of its own and decended from wolves if it decides it wants to rip a kids face off how are you going to stop it if you cant see itsad :(

2. if you cant control your dog dont have it off the lead saying henry come here in a soft limp voice while the dog isnt obeying you and basically doing what it wants is completely useless not all dogs and people want to be bothered by your dogangryangryangry

on a side note i dont think the methodist church want your dog craping on their grass even if you were picking it up
in fact the last time i looked there was a sign on the back enterence saying no dogssad :(
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18/07/2012 : 09:53:19      reply with quote


I wonder if this is the same dog that I have seen several times charging down mitchell lane and straight into the duck pond chasing all the ducks and causing mayhem whilst the owner just strolls down nonchalont as if it is perfectly acceptable for their dog to do this! it was a springer spaniel.
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18/07/2012 : 10:17:01      reply with quote


I have seen a dog fitting a similar desricption fair run riot in the weir/duckpond before.

We sometimes let our have a paddle in there on a hot day, but she is always leashed and any funny business and I would yank her straight out.

I wonder what the local by-laws say about having dogs on leads on public land? I just take it for a given that it sensible to keep them on a lead near roads as if they get out of control and cause an accident you may be sued
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18/07/2012 : 11:48:08      reply with quote


There was an article in last Fridays Keighley News (13th July) which talks about this issue and it invites everyone to complete their on-line survey at www.bradford.gov.uk/dco/
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18/07/2012 : 11:53:48      reply with quote


There were a couple of previous articles too:
21st June:
www.keighleynews.co.uk/archive/2012/06/21/Bradford+News+%28bradford_news%29/9772729.Public_to_decide_on_introduction_of_three_new_dog_control_laws_in_Bradford/

6th July:
www.keighleynews.co.uk/archive/2012/07/06/Bradford+News+%28bradford_news%29/9801832.Your_views_are_sought_on_dangerous_dogs/

13th July: www.keighleynews.co.uk/news/news_keighley/9814084.Dogs_could_be_banned_from_public_spaces/
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pumbajunior
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18/07/2012 : 12:10:43      reply with quote


The guy as average build about 5'8" grey hair about 60ish
(hopeless on ages though)and fairly posh/well spoken)
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ginjo
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18/07/2012 : 13:57:54      reply with quote


I have completed the survey lets hope something happens
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bandnwire
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18/07/2012 : 15:37:12      reply with quote


Thank you for putting this link on, I have completed the survey.
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19/07/2012 : 13:15:53      reply with quote


That's a relly quick & easy survey to do - no hassle at all! wink ;)
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14/08/2012 : 07:27:46      reply with quote


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Just had another run in with the posh idiot and Henry the black and white spaniel in the park at 6:15 this morning
i first saw the dog on the grass by the fenced childrens play park (no sign of the owner)
i went round by the bowling green (to avoid the dog)
the posh idiot was up behind the rugby/football changing rooms
(good job there were no children around for his dog to maul) angryangryangry

the dog was running all over the verges and on the bowling green
i went up and said IF YOU CANT CONTROL YOUR DOG GET IT ON A LEAD
i said dogs arnt supposed to be on the verges and especially not on the bowling green
he nonchalantly said i know that!
WELL GET YOUR DOG ON A LEAD THEN AS YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CONTROL OF IT!!!!!!!angryangryangryangryangryangry
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hermione fraggle
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14/08/2012 : 08:08:47      reply with quote


Drop and email to Neighbour Policing Team or Dog Control?
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14/08/2012 : 08:40:20      reply with quote


If your mobile phone has a video recording feature then see if you can use it for proof.
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14/08/2012 : 09:16:22      reply with quote


As I understand it the legal requirement is 'control'. There are dogs off a lead who are well trained and controlled, and dogs on leads that are not.

Drug sniffing dogs are usually off the lead when drug hunting. So are sheep dogs. And greyhounds!
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14/08/2012 : 09:52:09      reply with quote


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I have seen this dog before and I think it is fair to say they do not have full control of it. Therefore it should be kept on a lead at all times.

I myself have a dog which I am not 100% convinced of the trustworthyness as far as coming back when shouted if she was disctracted by other dogs or animals and so I never let her off lead outside of my own property.
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14/08/2012 : 10:35:51      reply with quote


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As I understand it the legal requirement is 'control'. There are dogs off a lead who are well trained and controlled, and dogs on leads that are not.

Drug sniffing dogs are usually off the lead when drug hunting. So are sheep dogs. And greyhounds!

i fully agree with you on this
if the dog is under control no problem the owner of henry on the other hand had zero control and the dog wasnt even in sight most of the time
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14/08/2012 : 10:45:29      reply with quote


If this is the only thing you have to complain about I think the big answer is "GET A LIFE".
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14/08/2012 : 10:53:20      reply with quote


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If this is the only thing you have to complain about I think the big answer is "GET A LIFE".
If you wasted your time reading this whole thread only to say that then I think we all know who needs to get a life, here's a clue....It's YOU!
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14/08/2012 : 12:23:21      reply with quote


Nope i have a catalogue of things to complain about most of which i am trying to do something about
plus does that mean all minor offences she just be pushed under the carpet
if a kid on a paper round had been mauled by this dog would you then still be telling me to GET A LIFE?angry
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14/08/2012 : 12:40:09      reply with quote


Has the dog done nything than actually be a dog?????
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14/08/2012 : 13:05:30      reply with quote


I took my 2 year old son to the park this morning. I saw several dogs running loose, mainly on the rugby pitch. How can the dog owners clean up after them when they cannot possibly keep track of their dogs?

In line with Pumbajuniors comments, in the case of a dog attack, there would be little anyone could do to either prevent or stop an attack. There was a middle age couple and two mothers in the toddlers play area at the time.

Dogs should not be allowed in the park, unless they are kept under control. As a dog owner myself, there are far more suitable venues for dog walking etc, within easy walking distance. there are/where notices stating that dogs should be kept under control at all times. A full time park warden would police this, whilst also addressing the problems of antisocial behaviour and littering.
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14/08/2012 : 16:14:22      reply with quote


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Has the dog done nything than actually be a dog?????
does it not state near the tennis courts tbhat dogs are to be kept of the verges???????
and im sure the bowling club doesnt dogs all over their green
ive no problem with the dog as such its the owner i have a problem with
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14/08/2012 : 16:30:43      reply with quote


Have also noticed that dogs are exercised in the tennis court. As for the bowling green, I would have thought common sense would kick in, NO DOGS OR KIDS running rampant.
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14/08/2012 : 16:40:12      reply with quote


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Have also noticed that dogs are exercised in the tennis court. As for the bowling green, I would have thought common sense would kick in, OGS OR KIDS running rampant.
I HAVE ALSO NOTICE DOGS EXERCISED ON THE SCHOOL PLAYING FIELDS WHERE IT CLEALY STATES NO DOGS ALOWED ON THIS FIELD BUT GUIDE DOGS TIME FOR SOME HEFTY FINES DONT HOLD YOUR BREATH
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14/08/2012 : 22:04:22      reply with quote



i once saw a child running around the street wrecklessly. The owner clearly had no control over it and the child even dropped a sweet wrapper without picking it up.

Dont have a kid if you cant look after one.
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15/08/2012 : 07:58:03      reply with quote


when was the last time you read in the paper that a kid had viciously biten another child leaving the child scared for life or dead?
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15/08/2012 : 08:41:16      reply with quote


I think that you might be scaremongering and jumping to conclusions somewhat. We have no evidence that this dog or indeed any of the other dogs are vicious or indeed that they are likely to maul children.

For me it is the fact that these dogs are able to approach adults and children which may be afraid dogs or dislike dogs. I quite personally do not feel threatened is approached by a loose dog bu there are many people who are, this I assume is why in a busy park you are required to keep your dog on a lead as the dog may be tempted to go play with children or chase balls where it not may not be welcome. I know mine adores children and always wants to greet them but I don't let her, she also loves ball games and she is kept on her lead as she would be chasing every ball in the park if not.

As far as dogs with dogs, there are some dogs which take objection to other dogs, this is just a fact of life but dogs off the leash approaching your dog unsupervised by an owner is always a stressful experience as you have no idea what this dog is like and your dog feels stressed as it is effectively trapped as it is on a lead and canot remove itself from the situation.

Leaving your dog unsupervised is wrong whether its in the park or on the street.
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21/01/2013 : 14:56:35      reply with quote


Went into the park on Saturday with the kids. On the top rugby field, I counted 14 dogs on the rugby pitch, not one of which was on the lead. Round by the pl;ay areas, there was another eight, again, not one of which was under control.

I don't mind the dogs having fun, p;laying in the snow, but when you have terriers of various sizes, combined with alsations, huskies and various cross breeds, it isn't good!! With all the snow and ice, kids of all ages are happily sledging, shouting and screaming, it only takes one "wired" dog top snap.

Management at Bolton Abbey are looking at an outright ban on dogs, due to the irresponsibility of the few, allowing dogs to run riot, fouling and people dumping the bags in hedges etc.

This is a public park for people of all ages, not a pet exercise area!!!!!
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21/01/2013 : 16:47:27      reply with quote


Yep,its a PUBLIC park,for memebers of the public with or without dogs!!! I admit to an annoying dog mess problem in Silsden that really needs sorting but there has not a mass attack on children by dogs.Stpo been so damned hysterical!!
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21/01/2013 : 17:00:57      reply with quote


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t there has not a mass attack on children by dogs.Stpo been so damned hysterical!!
not yet but why risk it, its an odds game if there are no dogs off leads in the park (dogs can still be there on leads) then there is a reduced chance of an accident.
Why risk it?
(again its a minority spoiling it for the majority.)
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21/01/2013 : 17:13:31      reply with quote


Just to set the record straight! I am not against dogs in public places, far from it. There are far too many morons who own dogs, that think it is alright to let their dogs run riot!! As I posted earlier, a dozen dogs on the top rugby pitch. Come on,common sense?? It only takes 2 dogs to start a fight. Who is going to stop them????

As I stated earlier, The Bolton Abbey Estate is looking to put in an outright ban on dogs visiting the estate, because of selfish individuals who cannot follow the rules!!!
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21/01/2013 : 19:16:33      reply with quote


agreed i think all dogs should be on a lead if they cant be controlled
mine is always on a 26ft line she still runs around happy
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21/01/2013 : 19:41:09      reply with quote


me personally i cant wait 4 a total ban on dogs of leads in public right of way,only to be let of on the owners private land,but im afraid it will never happen,countless times ive seen 2 dogs at a time come running upto my dog that is on a lead 4 the owner of the dogs to simply laugh at me when they have watched me struggling to keep a total control of my dog,when asked politely if they could call of there dogs all i get back is **what u want me to say to them**then get a load of abuse,needless to say they got more than a mouthful from me,4 the record,yes im refering to the blonde bimbo with the 2 saluki crosses if your reading this,which i hope you are
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