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Alan Grop
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07/09/2007 : 20:23:23      reply with quote


The sign Bradford met put up at the top of Bolton road says drive carefully through the village but should that not be Town ?
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claymoreking
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07/09/2007 : 22:03:02      reply with quote


How old is the sign?
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coby1
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08/09/2007 : 14:36:25      reply with quote


More like a commuting out back there are not many manufacturig jobs in Silsden as there where in the days of the textile mills
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Peter
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08/09/2007 : 16:52:58      reply with quote


See the discussion on Wikipedia

www.silsden.net/useful/townorvillage.htm
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alan
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08/09/2007 : 17:05:59      reply with quote


It is my understanding that Silsden declared itself a town a few years ago, Lawrence Walton being the first mayor about six years ago.
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Alan Grop
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08/09/2007 : 18:55:52      reply with quote


WE do have a Town hall not a village hall so we must be a town?
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coby1
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09/09/2007 : 14:14:20      reply with quote


Alan as you know it has always been called the Town Hall even when Silsden was a quarter the size it is now.
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wahiba
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09/09/2007 : 18:31:11      reply with quote


I think Silsden is actually a 'Township' as it was once part of the Parish of Kildwick but has its own church.

When Silsden seemed to operate relatively independently it was probably then considered a town but by current definitions it is probably a village.

However, as villages tend to centre on the church with parish councils and all, and Silsden has a town council I would think the best term is the original one Township - better than some of the alternatives - minitown? settlement? zone?
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robin
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10/09/2007 : 10:20:59      reply with quote


Silsden is a Town, I believe it became such in the early teens of the last century. It must be possible to find out. We had our own coat of arms and until local goverment decimation in the 70s an Urban District Council, operating independently of Bradford (or worse still Keighley)
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10/09/2007 : 11:19:21      reply with quote


I think it would have been a UDC within the West Riding of Yorkshire. The current situation is the result of the reorganisation of the early 1970s.

How did Silsden operate in the 1950s and 60s? To have been a active body the town council would have been responsible things like housing, rubbish collections and the like. Education, police and fire would have been through the West Riding. Does anyone remember?

Pedantry - decimation means 1 in 10 were eliminated. A better description of the last reorganisation would have been massacre!!!!!!
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robin
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10/09/2007 : 11:27:23      reply with quote


Exactly that, local matters dealt with locally and Education etc br W.R.C.C.

In those days we did not need to co-opt councillors, Silsden people fought i.e. campaigned to serve, locals used to stand outside the council offices to hear who had been elected.
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10/09/2007 : 15:21:03      reply with quote


in the Bradford Met report of 2.8.07 about the Sykes Lane proposals, they refer twice to Silsden as a "village". If you Google "Silsden village" and "Silsden town", there are loads of entries for both! No clearer then, unless the Bradford Met people are right.
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robin
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10/09/2007 : 15:46:12      reply with quote


Could it be that a village would be easier to annex
(as Austria was annexed to Germany) than would a Town? Keighley have long held the veiw that Silsden belonged to them. They have at least twice formally laid claim to Silsden. Calling ourselves a Village only plys into their hands. Being in the postal district of Keighley, Silsdeners used to put Via Keighley in their address to keep that distance.
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Alan Grop
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10/09/2007 : 21:14:20      reply with quote


Do we still have a Town band ?
I remember the good old days of independance from Bradford.
Lets be proud to have Silsden as our home TOWN.
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carliol
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10/09/2007 : 22:51:46      reply with quote


who actually decides these things? is it a legal issue? is it a democratic choice, or merely a historic fact? maybe a referendum of residents would be interesting after research on the actual position, and with a clear statement of facts to help people make an informed choice. or are people actually bothered? maybe this is one of those cases where the suggested polling software would give us a guide as to whether people are interested.
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wahiba
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11/09/2007 : 13:22:24      reply with quote


Walking past the TOWN hall I noticed a certificate in the window showing we have a quality TOWN council. This is from the office of the deputy Prime Minister, i.e. the government. I they say Silsden is a TOWN then a town it is.
Good enough for me.
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alan
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11/09/2007 : 14:13:48      reply with quote


Try reading this -

www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/pdfs/urban_area_defn.pdf
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wahiba
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11/09/2007 : 21:38:05      reply with quote


Yes - well - umh - argh - Silsden is a Town aka An Urban Area ie a Town - I think!!! shocked 8O
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12/09/2007 : 07:38:29      reply with quote


quote
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Could it be that a village would be easier to annex
(as Austria was annexed to Germany) than would a Town? Keighley have long held the veiw that Silsden belonged to them. They have at least twice formally laid claim to Silsden. Calling ourselves a Village only plys into their hands. Being in the postal district of Keighley, Silsdeners used to put Via Keighley in their address to keep that distance.

i just put silsden then postcode when addressing things
i dont think were anything to do with keighley
a letter should get to you with a postcode and house number only
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wahiba
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12/09/2007 : 09:08:58      reply with quote


Postal addresses should not be used for administrative purposes. They are created by the post office for their delivery organisation. Hence Skipton is, quite logically, a BD post code but is certainly not part of Bradford.

Anyhow it gets easier. Keighley is a TOWN within C.B.M.D.C and so is Silsden.
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alan
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12/09/2007 : 13:06:40      reply with quote


Correct "wahiba".

We also have a TOWN council, and a MAYOR happy :)
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12/09/2007 : 16:44:04      reply with quote


Doesn't township have something to do with being granted a charter to have a market? I believe so and since Silden was granted a market charter over a century ago I would say IMHO definitely a town.

Or I may just be talking rubbish.
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wahiba
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13/09/2007 : 22:09:52      reply with quote


Actually all we actually need for an address is the house name or number and the post code. The address bit is more to help the final delivery postmen than anything else so I would assume that Silsden is probably more useful than Keighley. BD20 will get the mail to Keighley for distribution.

By the way I think we have an excellent postal service in Silsden in terms of delivery and our local post office.
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14/09/2007 : 07:55:03      reply with quote


yup our postman is a friends bother so even when renault send my tickets addressed to #12 instead of our real house number they still got to us as he knows my name
the double whisky xmas tip last year on xmas day in the star at steeton obviously workedhappy :)
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