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Topic : Under age?? |
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| Black cherry |
I have just returned from our local supermarket very angry!!! Why is it that everytime I go there to wine or other alcoholic beverages I get asked for I.D? I am almost 26 and at some point in the past 6 months must have shown my passport to every member of staff in the place, yet the same people carry on asking me!!! My biggest naig is that on a daily basis I see the mess the kids leave on our park and in graveyards which consists of beer bottles/tins, cig packets and ... erm a certain supermarket carrier bag!!! I think that the message here is that they should be clamping down on under age drinking in public places rather than targeting the poor innocent hardworking people like me who like to enjoy a glass of wine (or 2) on an evening!!! |
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| Billy b |
Here Here Black Cherry....had to pick up loadsa bottles this weekend in the park,saw the obviously under-age kids taking it on there at about 5pm using the same well known carrier bags.Need to clean up your act Co op! |
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| Black cherry |
Yes! Maybe if instead of putting all effort into checking IDs of people obvously old enoough they could check outside once in a while to see who half of the alcoholic bevreages are being passed onto!!!! |
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| Dave |
So you have been to the park and asked their ages have you? You have seen the "underage" drinkers in the park on a night? Or are you some sort of mystic meg who can tell someone's age from an empty drinks can?  Perhaps the mess in the park is made by "kids" over 18? Or worse still an Adult might be buying it for them? |
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| alan |
The answer to your question is Black Cherry that older kids give/sell it to the younger ones. All supermarkets etc are introducing the under 25 ID, so no use complaining about about the local one. Wish I looked under 25. |
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| alan |
quoteYes! Maybe if instead of putting all effort into checking IDs of people obvously old enoough they could check outside once in a while to see who half of the alcoholic bevreages are being passed onto!!!! They DO check outside, I have witnessed them refusing to sell drinks to older kids because they have been seen passing them on. My son is 22 and gets asked for his ID all the time, and he doesn't whinge! |
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| Dave |
Also the staff wouldn't want to risk an £80 fine and a criminal record. |
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| skippy |
alan under 25 what?  stone |
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| alan |
as gg would say bo****ks! |
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| claymoreking |
Isn't it a compliment if someone thinks you're younger than you are? They're only doing their job, and I suspect those who leave their cans and bottles in the park and cemetery are not co-op customers - too expensive! |
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| Billy b |
The kids in the park are co op customers cos they bring it in their carriers.I'm not saying all drinkers in park are under age but yes some are definatly under cos I see them.I'm not saying al drinkers in the park cause trouble cos they dont,some even put there bottles in the carriers and put it in the bins.Think what Blackchery is saying is having to carry a passport about is a pain when she sees other under age been served somewhere along the line. |
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| alan |
Can get an ID card, citizen card, or a provisional driving licence etc, don't need to carry a passport. It really is a none argument 'cos it ain't gonna change! All supermarkets are the same. |
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| alan |
quoteThe kids in the park are co op customers cos they bring it in their carriers.I'm not saying all drinkers in park are under age but yes some are definatly under cos I see them.I'm not saying al drinkers in the park cause trouble cos they dont,some even put there bottles in the carriers and put it in the bins.Think what Blackchery is saying is having to carry a passport about is a pain when she sees other under age been served somewhere along the line. If Black Cherry sees underage kids being served she should report it to Trading Standards! |
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| Black cherry |
Thank you Billy B that was my point exactly!! And it's also very annoying when I show my ID then am asked by the same person the next day! Also I know a lot of people who work at the Co op and they no fine well how old I am yet they not allowed to except someone elses say so even if it's there superior!!!!! |
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| Billy b |
have done that and the police too. |
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| greengrass |
quoteas gg would say bo****ks! Me sware noooooooooooo pete gets all exited but sometime he must sleep |
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| Shazza |
Unfortunatley supermarkets etc can't be held responsible for underage drinking which is why they have brought in these policies. In doing so they are seen to be trying to help the community by clamping down on the sale of it. As for them already knowing your age, I think they have to be seen to be asking because if trading standards saw that they weren't asking when somone doesn't look 25 they could again get into trouble. I work in a supermarket and as a checkout bird I hate asking but it is part of my job. I can't afford to be fined nor do I want a criminal record. If you don't look 25 then carry id saves a lot of upset and agro on both parts. Also if you have someone with you they need to prove their age too  |
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| Billy b |
Go to silsden park any weekend evening and see the olicies dont work well all the time,whats next ID if you look under 30?when will it end?Im not saying shops shouldnt be asking for ID I'm just saying that it keeps getting higher age to show it but it doesnt stop the underage getting it. |
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| HB |
quoteAlso if you have someone with you they need to prove their age too So I can not buy any alcohol if i go to the supermarket with my daughter, who is only 1, or you will be fined and get a criminal record!?!%20'  '); |
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| Shazza |
I used to live opposite the park and saw underage drinking and did call the police often summer is always a bad time for it, come winter they don't come out as often. I think the majority of us will at some point have drunk underage. The difference between then and now is the amount and what they drink. We could go on forever on who is to blame. Yes, the younger ones are still getting it but from who? The policies might not be working but what else can be done? |
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| alan |
quote quoteAlso if you have someone with you they need to prove their age too So I can not buy any alcohol if i go to the supermarket with my daughter, who is only 1, or you will be fined and get a criminal record!?!%20' ');Only if they suspect that you will hand your booze to your one year old to go boozing in the park |
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| Shazza |
quote quoteAlso if you have someone with you they need to prove their age too So I can not buy any alcohol if i go to the supermarket with my daughter, who is only 1, or you will be fined and get a criminal record!?!%20' ');I did wonder after I wrote that, how long it would take for somone to come back with that comment. I believe a supermarket in Keighley has actually refused that sale of alcohol to a person with a young child. But it is if they think you are going to give the alcohol to the person with you eg you are 18 have ID but the person with you looks or is younger and does not! |
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| alan |
Errrr............. why don't the parents control their kids, it's their job! I did and before anyone jumps in to tell me how hard it is I was a single parent ALL through their teenage years! |
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| HB |
I wasnt trying to be funny about things, more pointing out how messed up the system is. I would hope they would serve me with my 1 year old, but it would also be stupid if they didnt serve me if i was with my brother-in-law who is 15. If I was found to supply alcohol to minors I would loose my job, but I should be able to buy it when i'm with my brother-in-law. |
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| alan |
Think checking the one you are with is at the discretion of the checkout, and is really a red herring. The system is ok. It's a none debate anyway, ALL supermarkets are now or about to do it. Like I said what about the parents who allow their kids to booze irresponsibly? |
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| Peter |
Sorry Alan but I think you have missed the point on this one. Parents should be able to take children with them shopping and to be able to buy alcohol as part of their shopping. Not have to leave them in a car or pretend they don't have any children while they go through the checkout. Instances of parents being refused alcohol when in supermarkets shopping with their children has happened. These are responsible adults who have to go shopping and have to take their children with them. |
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| skippy |
well said peter  alan |
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| alan |
quoteSorry Alan but I think you have missed the point on this one. Parents should be able to take children with them shopping and to be able to buy alcohol as part of their shopping. Not have to leave them in a car or pretend they don't have any children while they go through the checkout. Instances of parents being refused alcohol when in supermarkets shopping with their children has happened. These are responsible adults who have to go shopping and have to take their children with them. Can't say that I have ever had the problem with my kids and NEVER seen it when shopping! Think it's the fault of an over exhuberant checkout person. If that happens why not ask for a supervisor or the manager to resolve the problem. In my experience I ain't never seen it and have seen lots of people buying booze every week with kids when I go shopping! |
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| alan |
quotewell said peter alan S**t stirrer! Licking up to Peter |
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| Shazza |
If there is a say a teenager coming through with what is quite obviously parents shopping and the parents come and pay, fine. If the other person is paying then ID must be shown. If you have a group if 'young' people come through who could be a mixture or maybe just look like a mixed age group then they all have to produce ID. This doesn't just apply to alcohol, it is any age restricted product. If a child does not look 25 when buying an age restricted dvd or computer game, they too muct prove their age. I had a girl come in one saturday night, with her gran to buy a dvd, age 12 she didn't look 12 but how many do? But because she didn't look 25 and she was paying I had to ask her for ID. She didn't have any, again how many 12 yr olds do? I couldn't serve her. Stupid? yes very, the poor girl was going to have a lovely night in with her gran doing nothing wrong and the stupid girl at checkout spoilt it. But thats the company policy But this is how Trading Standards get you. |
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| alliecoward |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) www.cravenherald.co.uk/search/4488517.Mother_angry_over_alcohol_sales_ban/ peter....I put a url on !!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Shazza |
quote quoteSorry Alan but I think you have missed the point on this one. Parents should be able to take children with them shopping and to be able to buy alcohol as part of their shopping. Not have to leave them in a car or pretend they don't have any children while they go through the checkout. Instances of parents being refused alcohol when in supermarkets shopping with their children has happened. These are responsible adults who have to go shopping and have to take their children with them. Can't say that I have ever had the problem with my kids and NEVER seen it when shopping! Think it's the fault of an over exhuberant checkout person. If that happens why not ask for a supervisor or the manager to resolve the problem. In my experience I ain't never seen it and have seen lots of people buying booze every week with kids when I go shopping! Once the checkout have asked for ID no matter if you get a supervisor, Manager whoever their desision stands, again crap I know |
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| alan |
quotewww.cravenherald.co.uk/search/4488517.Mother_angry_over_alcohol_sales_ban/ peter....I put a url on !!!!!!!!!!!! Precisely like I said over exhuberant! |
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| Peter |
I think it's more of a problem when the children are approaching 18 and then the checkout operator will assume the adult is buying for the teenager, but with the new rules for supermarkets who knows how they will see things - call the supervisor when you are challenged. It seems a bit more common sense is required. Don't teenagers wait outside for any alcohol bought by an adult? |
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| alan |
quoteI think it's more of a problem when the children are approaching 18 and then the checkout operator will assume the adult is buying for the teenager, but with the new rules for supermarkets who knows how they will see things - call the supervisor when you are challenged. It seems a bit more common sense is required. Don't teenagers wait outside for any alcohol bought by an adult? Correct Peter. I have seen the Co-op refuse an 18 plus year old, with ID, because they had witnessed him giving to younger kids. Quite right too. Like you say all that is needed by staff is common sense. |
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| alan |
Easy way of providing ID, one of the many....... www.citizencard.com/ |
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