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Peter
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29/12/2006 : 17:18:19      reply with quote


The following is on the Silsden Town Council Agenda for the meeting to be held on 4 Jan 2007 - I would suggest you make your views & experiences known through this forum for our councilors to read and forward our views to Bradford Council. Please do not drift off the subject by following a thread, it will not help us to get the transport we require. Thanks, Peter

BRADFORD COUNCIL – Consultation with Silsden TC regarding transport. Comments and
responses required to following questions:
• What are the transport needs of rural communities
• How have these needs been identified
• What measures have been taken/are being taken to address these needs
• Have these needs been met?
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Anna
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30/12/2006 : 20:43:49      reply with quote


the bus service to Ilkley and Keighley is pretty good.

But it would be good to have a bus service to Skipton as well.
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grandad
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01/01/2007 : 19:59:04      reply with quote


there is a service to Skipton but it is not as good as the one to Ilkley, and it is a lot more expensive, because the tight Tories in north Yorkshire don't like public transport, so they wont subsidise it.
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gazzer
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01/01/2007 : 21:16:24      reply with quote


Why not approach First Bus.They I understand stopped some Leeds/Skipton buses because of a shortage of passengers.But what if from Addingham some came through Silsden to Skipton & vice versa
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claymoreking
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01/01/2007 : 21:38:06      reply with quote


I strongly agree with 'gazzer' - a very good idea.
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daisy
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02/01/2007 : 21:59:51      reply with quote


I would like to see a more frequent bus shuttle service to and from Steeton station or at least a more regular service that connects with the train service?

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Fred
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04/01/2007 : 17:56:29      reply with quote


The response to this thread has been disappointing and I can only assume most of us don’t use public transport. We all sit in our cars and complain about the traffic congestion. BUT, what would you do if you didn’t have a car could you get to work? Perhaps you could get to work but would you get there on time? How much time extra time would the journey take?

We have all seen people walking to and from the rail station, why do they have to walk? Perhaps a bus is not available, it probably left the bus stop 5 minutes before the train got in and the next bus is 30 mins later, but it’s cold, raining and the bus stop doesn’t have a shelter and is unlit. The trains are on time why can’t the bus wait for the train. Would you cross the A629 duel carriageway on foot?

Did you know it is easier to get off the train at Keighley and walk to the bus station, you can then get a bus all the way to Silsden without waiting for ever in the dark and cold. It is actually easier to get the train in Ilkley, the bus waits for the train, Steeton is our local rail station but the public transport to/from it when passengers actually want to use it is practically non existent.

We need a basic Cringles to Airedale Hospital shuttle – not one that takes forever and goes all around the houses and it MUST be timed and wait for the train.

There is no drop off point for the southbound rail platform, not very disabled friendly. If it was a building which was 400 years old the officials would be jumping up and down demanding disabled access facilities.

Isn’t it about time we stopped making the Silsden/Steeton railway car park larger for the people from North Yorkshire. Why is it possible for residents from North Yorkshire to get subsidised rail fares and park for free?
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alan
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04/01/2007 : 21:44:15      reply with quote


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All very good points raised, but how many people actually took the trouble to go to the Town Council meeting to make their point?

The problem is with transport/buses in the town is that unless people actually use what we have we will lose them.

The positive note is that the majority of points plus more were made in the town councils response!
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wahiba
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07/01/2007 : 16:38:11      reply with quote


After two weeks in Spain, where the bus from where we were staying to the big city about 10 miles away was only a quid, I will offer some observations on transport and Silsden.

When we moved from the big city, Morley actually, more house than fields one criteria was reasonable access to public transport. Therefore our house buying was done by bus and train. The fact that Silsden station had not long re-opened, and the price difference in houses between Silsden and Ilkley settled it.

I used the train into Leeds quite a bit, walking and cycling. The cycle hutches are a great idea. I suppose my experience of city riding on two wheels, powered and pedaled meant that the round a bout held no terrors. Line oneself up on the centre of the bridge, look for the gap and pedal around. Rarely failed and I never came near an accident. I always remember one day when it still snowed. No traffic on the bypass.

I do not do it now, no need, although trips into Leeds are generally on the train and it is a reasonable walk. Even crossing the by pass is not as bad as it looks.

I like the idea of getting the Leeds Skipton bus to run through Silsden. Maybe K&DT aka TransDev could run such a service?

A decent cycle path, with a bridge over the bypass would be of benefit to pedestrians and cyclists. Increasing the secure cycle parking facilities at the station could make it a popular eco friendly option.

While the Spanish bus was cheap, the frequency and service left a lot to be desired. Building a new bus station on the outskirts of town (Los Alazarez) rather than the centre seemed daft. There were some local buses, but trying to get information on times and routes was hopeless. No information, even at the bus station.

The city buses in Cartagena seemed OK, and it would be a nice place to live. Mind you the weather makes up for an awful lot, and Spanish food is now on a par with France.

A final thought, an individual continuous ski lift type cable way between Silsden and the station might work. At least it would get people across the river and flood plain.
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Peter
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12/01/2007 : 11:41:09      reply with quote


Alan shame on you suggesting buses are only for the elderly.
www.thisisbradford.co.uk/news/tibnews/display.var.1115009.0.bus_services_are_not_being_used_enough.php

Perhaps that is how buses are perceived because those going to work can't use the buses because they don't run at the time they are required. Why not ask the people walking to and from the train station why they don't catch the bus?
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alan
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12/01/2007 : 13:07:17      reply with quote


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Peter, I wasn't suggesting only for the elderley at all. That wasn't all I said, but all that was reported.

The point I was trying to make was that the elderley are a group who it is very difficult to get local information too, and they are one of the particular groups that need info about buses.

We discussed how we communicated info to people about local buses when perhaps they don't always use local amenities like library etc where information can be deseminated.

If anyone knows I'd be more than happy to hear possible answers.

I agree with you comments by the way, I know reasons why people don't use the buses. I get earache off my kids enough about them happy :) . Indeed if there was a more reliable service I would use them more myself!
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wahiba
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15/01/2007 : 10:00:10      reply with quote


I am 60 later this year.

Should I celebrate by using my new bus pass, or going for a ride on my motorcycle?
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alan
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15/01/2007 : 10:49:52      reply with quote


Think the motorcycle would be more reliable "wahiba" especially if you live on Waterside!

Hope it's an old British one "wahiba" not one of those plastic Japanes things, that would spoil my mental image of you happy :)to think of you riding summat Japanese!
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wahiba
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15/01/2007 : 20:56:18      reply with quote


Designed in the UK
Japanese engine
Italian wheels and brakes
Frame made and bike assembled in Germany
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alan
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15/01/2007 : 21:40:11      reply with quote


Oh dear "wahiba" you've destroyed my image of you now! happy :)
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daisy
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16/01/2007 : 18:22:27      reply with quote


Which bus service is under threat? Surely not the Keighley/Ilkley service? My experience is that this service is very well used. I do use this service to travel to and from Ilkley station and from Keighley and even from Steeton station. But I don't like waiting for the bus at Steeton in the dark - the service should be from the station. The 903 does occasionally meet up with the trains but not regularly enough. Surely to be well used a service should be regular and dare I say frequent.

Do any of the Town Council use public transport? If they don't maybe they should try it and find out what the problems are!
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alan
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16/01/2007 : 19:51:30      reply with quote


"daisy" if you read the thread you will see the original request was for comments to be passed on to town councillors via this forum for a consultation.

This was done by town councillors, who passed on all the comments made on this forum PLUS many more that they were aware of precisely because they use buses and talk to people in Silsden.

Although there is the opportunity in all town council meetings for the public to have their say on any issue, no members of the public turned up that evening to make a contribution on this very important topic.
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Peter
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17/01/2007 : 08:56:19      reply with quote


Alan, have the council now "done their bit" for the community, re public transport requirements, or do they still want feedback via this website?

BTW I would be interested to know how many of the public attend ANY council meetings.
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daisy
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17/01/2007 : 21:57:48      reply with quote


My comment was a response to the report on the Town Council meeting that implied Silsden would lose bus services if they weren't used. Are services under threat?

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alan
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18/01/2007 : 08:14:54      reply with quote


Sadly the report in the paper did not cover all that was discussed at the town council. The town council are 100% behind improving bus services for the town. Sadly any bus service that is not used enough could be lost on the future, that's a sad commercial fact!

As for comments Peter, the more the merrier. I am certainly always interested in hearing comments, that's why I use this site so much.
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