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Peter
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27/03/2015 : 09:52:27      reply with quote


Outline application (with all matters reserved) to remove waste transfer system and create a residential development | Former Waste Transfer Station Bradley Road Silsden West Yorkshire

Planning Application 15/00058/MAO (20 dwellings)?

www.planning4bradford.com/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=NHTD7RDH02F00

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gazzer
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27/03/2015 : 10:53:10      reply with quote


A very brief look but

No affordable housing and with its almost level walk into town it could have some housing for the increasingly older population.
Is it really more than 20m to a watercourse?
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Spanish Omelette
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27/03/2015 : 16:45:47      reply with quote


Who is the person who is going to benefit from the sale of this prime open land?

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midway
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27/03/2015 : 17:31:19      reply with quote


Good luck to who ever, a building plot with planning consent for 20 units is worth near a million. Drinks all round i think.
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28/03/2015 : 16:52:07      reply with quote


Up t'ghyll and down t'beck'oil were my playground when I was a lad, but that's over fifty years ago. I've no objection as long as footpath access up to the fields is maintained. Anything has to be better than what is there at the moment.
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28/03/2015 : 20:44:29      reply with quote


Midway - All well and good saying good luck to them for making a million!!

Would be nice to put a name to the million or are we all being secretive?

Isn't not too embarassing to let us know who is selling this prime open land?


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midway
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28/03/2015 : 21:29:05      reply with quote


Spanish Omelette---- Have you read the planning application?
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aj101
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29/03/2015 : 08:00:57      reply with quote


spanish,forgive me if im missing something here ,,,but,,,,,could you please tell me why it matters whos selling it,,,,
if somebody rightly owns something then why carnt they sell it without broadcasting it,,,
you say you want to know who will benifit,,but why has it got anything to do with you,,,,
im not ment to be rude to you in any way but i just carnt see why you bothered who,,,objecting to development is another thing but who benifits surlyis nothing to do with anybody,,,,
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Peter
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29/03/2015 : 08:30:05      reply with quote


It was obviously a waste of my time posting this link

www.planning4bradford.com/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=NHTD7RDH02F00

All the information is there if you bother to look
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30/03/2015 : 09:45:24      reply with quote


aj101. You can be as rude you like!!!
Who the hell are Dales Design ?? Obviously an agent acting on behalf of somebody who does not want his name to be linked with the land sale and the building of even more house in SILSDEN!

Has somebody got something to hide here by not revealing his/her name?
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30/03/2015 : 09:51:22      reply with quote


I know the name of the person who has put in the planning application, I found it by looking on the link.
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30/03/2015 : 10:29:09      reply with quote


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aj101. You can be as rude you like!!!
Who the hell are Dales Design ?? Obviously an agent acting on behalf of somebody who does not want his name to be linked with the land sale and the building of even more house in SILSDEN!

Has somebody got something to hide here by not revealing his/her name?

spanish omelette i can recommend specksavers as a good place to obtain a pair of spectacleslaugh :Dlaugh :Dlaugh :Dlaugh :Dlaugh :Dlaugh :D
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30/03/2015 : 11:11:47      reply with quote


I would think most people would prefer to see houses there rather than a waste transfer site and the name of the applicant is on the documents if you look, surely you must have worked it out by now, waste transfer being the clue
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30/03/2015 : 11:20:58      reply with quote


Lets put this one to bed. Dales Design Ltd. have submitted a planning application to Bradford Council for a site on Bradley Road on behalf of their client Mr.C.Atkinson.
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30/03/2015 : 11:21:03      reply with quote


Before this gets out of hand, on the application the surname is Atkinson but no first name has been disclosed. All that can be assumed is that the Atkinson family own the land, so why can't they develop it just as anyone else would.
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HB
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30/03/2015 : 11:23:07      reply with quote


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, surely you must have worked it out by now, waste transfer being the clue
Hmmm waste transfer, what a clue..... Now how do you transfer waste...... Hmmm..... Lorry.... No,? How about trailer......No,... Skip?

Sorry being silly it is clear to see on the link Peter has sent,
Also houses will be built why are we questioning who has, previously, invested in land and now making a few quid out of it? Fair play to them
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Mickyfinn
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30/03/2015 : 11:34:58      reply with quote


Victor, you need to read some of the supporting documentation to find who the client is.
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Spanish Omelette
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30/03/2015 : 11:51:14      reply with quote


AAAh that took some getting out of you!!

Like extracting teeth!!

Is there a conflict of interest if it is THE Mr C. Atkinson?
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Peter
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30/03/2015 : 11:51:18      reply with quote


This application will be considered by STC on Thursday.

www.silsden.net/town_council/index.htm
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30/03/2015 : 11:59:06      reply with quote


If this is the case surely the answer to question 7 on the application form has been answered incorrectly

Authority Employee/Member
With respect to the Authority, I am:
(a) a member of staff
(b) an elected member
(c) related to a member of staff
(d) related to an elected member
Do any of these statements apply to you? No

I would also question the response to question 5

Is your proposal within 20 metres of a watercourse (e.g. river, stream or beck)? No

I would have thought that the beck that disappears under the tip is within 20 metres of the proposed development
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Dave
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30/03/2015 : 12:29:45      reply with quote


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If this is the case surely the answer to question 7 on the application form has been answered incorrectly

Authority Employee/Member
With respect to the Authority, I am:
(a) a member of staff
(b) an elected member
(c) related to a member of staff
(d) related to an elected member
Do any of these statements apply to you? No
The candidates for the 2015 Local election haven't been announced yet. Maybe (and this is pure speculation not fact) the said person in the application won't stand this time. We will have to wait and see.
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30/03/2015 : 12:46:10      reply with quote


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Agreeing with ginjo yet again! (Must be getting soft in old age). People nearby wlll be happier with new houses as neighbours & not a busy waste site which, however well run is always going to produce noise and.. er .. waste.

Owners of land can to sell it when they wish. Even if they may have taken a public stand against other development in Silsden and/or have an elected role with potential planning influence,that freedom to sell what you own rightly stands. It's their business, not ours. But it might just have been a it wiser to wait till after the elections ...... who knows?

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30/03/2015 : 12:46:54      reply with quote


Just a guess. But I reckon the applicant will know how much scrutiny there will be over this application. I also reckon any planning permission will go through the usual process and people will oppose if they see fit.

Not sure what goes on in the minds of those who make the decision so anything can happen
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Peter
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30/03/2015 : 13:58:59      reply with quote


I see the objectors to this application have the courage of their convictions sad :(sad :(laugh :Dshocked 8Oshocked 8O

Name: Mr Concerned Resident

Name: Mr A Resident

Name: Mr Name Withheld

Disgraceful, if they have a problem they should put their name to it to their objection not hide behind an anonymous name. The planning portal is not the silsden.net forum they should make their name public so their real interest can be questioned.
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skippy
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30/03/2015 : 14:03:40      reply with quote


just to clarify ,yes I own the transfer station .my agent put this application in to bfd last april. we are powerless as to the speed of how these people work, in april last year I was not an elected member as I am today, my agent assures me that he will sort out the paperwork with the planners today to ensure that it reads that I am an elected member of Bradford council. it has nothing to do with any of you if I wish to sell my business and land for as much money as possible, I have worked hard all my life and I am going to enjoy my 1,000000 plus. so if you want any more information spannish just ask.
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Spanish Omelette
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30/03/2015 : 15:01:21      reply with quote


Skippy. It makes a mockery of Peter's comment about hiding behind an assumed name!

If you were not an elected member when you wanted to submit the application, then why not add your name to it at the time and not Dales Design!!

As for the £1m you will receive. Let's hope some it is going to good causes in Silsden!!

Just a bit confusing with all the anti-house building opinions from the STC, when one of their elected councillors puts in for a house building application?

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30/03/2015 : 15:42:40      reply with quote


well in skippy you tell emlaugh :D looking forward to a good pint with you ,you will av to open a moth bank account, ps how bigs the slate?laugh :D
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30/03/2015 : 16:21:42      reply with quote


Peter. My guess is that people needing to hide their identity when objecting to plans are in genuine fear of reprisals. That fear may or may not be justified. But perhaps it's better as site guru not to attack them? It won't help make them feel its safe to speak their minds. If objections are valid it doesn't really matter who they are from. If not, they'll be ignored.
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30/03/2015 : 16:39:32      reply with quote


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Peter. My guess is that people needing to hide their identity when objecting to plans are in genuine fear of reprisals.
I accept people have pseudonyms to contribute to this forum, that's what makes this formum what it is (but I do object when the undelaying information - the bit only I have access to, are false).

However there is no reason to hide your identity when putting in an objection on the Bradford Planning Portal, such objections should not even see the light of day or be made public.
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30/03/2015 : 17:43:07      reply with quote


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I accept people have pseudonyms to contribute to this forum, that's what makes this formum what it is (but I do object when the undelaying information - the bit only I have access to, are false).

However there is no reason to hide your identity when putting in an objection on the Bradford Planning Portal, such objections should not even see the light of day or be made public.

There is no reason why Bfd planning portal should publish the names of anyone making a comment whether in support or against, but they do publish them along with the person's address.

EDIT: just to clarify, the identity of the person should not matter, Bfd can ask for it and keep a record if they want, but the comments should be evaluated and stand or fail on their own merits irrespective of whether the person making them has any vested interest or not. (public bodies like planning are obviously an exception to this.)
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30/03/2015 : 17:54:58      reply with quote


Skippy if you are reading this thread I've got some questions for you.

They may be hard questions and I apologise as I've no axe to grind personally against you, I think you do a good job for the town and you've even helped me out personally a couple of times although you might not recall.

Have you ever objected (in your official capacity) to a housing developement in Silsden on the grounds of lack of infrastructure or inadequate ameneties?

If the answer to that is yes, then how do you square that with your current application?

Full disclaimer: I've no personal interest in this developement. People need houses, I just worry that Silsden is becoming overdeveloped and will be a less nice place to live in future.
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30/03/2015 : 18:09:48      reply with quote


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posted by Peter
I accept people have pseudonyms to contribute to this forum, that's what makes this formum what it is (but I do object when the undelaying information - the bit only I have access to, are false).

However there is no reason to hide your identity when putting in an objection on the Bradford Planning Portal, such objections should not even see the light of day or be made public.

There is no reason why Bfd planning portal should publish the names of anyone making a comment whether in support or against, but they do publish them along with the person's address.

EDIT: just to clarify, the identity of the person should not matter, Bfd can ask for it and keep a record if they want, but the comments should be evaluated and stand or fail on their own merits irrespective of whether the person making them has any vested interest or not. (public bodies like planning are obviously an exception to this.)
People should be named to weed out those who just want to cause mischief. I could easily set up any number of false identities to either support or oppose any planning application.
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30/03/2015 : 18:35:47      reply with quote


I am going to close this topic.

If you have any comments to make about this application you should go through the planning portal (link above), or write to the planning officer.

If this application was by anyone else you would not be asking personal questions on a public forum.

At any Town Council Meeting before the meeting begins there is an opportunity to declare an interest in the agenda. Councillor Atkinson has declare interests on subjects in the past and I'm sure this will be no different. Popular to belief in planning applications that an application is a forgone conclusion, in my experience of attending these meetings this is never the case.

I started this topic to bring to your attention an outline planning application for 20 dwellings in Silsden, I have obviously succeeded.

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