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Topic : BRIN OR BREXIT |
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| old_miner |
Nothing I have heard over the past few weeks has changed my mind that we are better in than out. That the Brexit campaign has had to rely on anti immigration racist xenophobia has been really sad. There are some good economic arguments for Brexit, generally to do with manufacturing and employment. However as the brexit leadership are more concerned with odd statistics I really have to stick with the current system. Also a country run by Farage and co gives me the creeps. |
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| gazzer |
quote That the Brexit campaign has had to rely on anti immigration racist xenophobia has been really sad. Also a country run by Farage and co gives me the creeps. Strange anybody who wants to talk about immigration is branded a racist.We all know Silsden needs a planned infrastructure in place before we get all these extra residents when new houses are built.Its not rocket science. Its the same with the UK if hundreds of thousands of people are going to come and live here there needs to be improvements to the countries infrastructure in advance. If you say it about Silsden the odd person will call you a NIMBY, say the same about the UK plenty will call you a xenophobic racist. Ps we are not electing Farage or anyone else tomorrow its about being in or out of the EU |
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| Fred |
Put it this way, if the entire population of France decided they wanted to live in the UK, then under the current EU regulations there is NOTHING we could do to stop them. Fortunately the majority of the French want to live in France, but what about the new countries that want to join the club? The countries that are not rich and the inhabitants that get paid peanuts in their own country, the UK must seem like Shangri-La. |
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| ginjo |
has anyone been down to vote yet? just wondering how busy it is and what best time to go will be.I know when it was general election, we were queueing up the street, mind you that was down to how the officers had split the streets, no queue at all for one side of silsden.I don't think either side have covered theirselves in glory too much shouting over people and saying the same old things with nothing to back it up, last nights Jeremy paxman was appalling he was useless at controlling people and everybody speaking over each other, I switched it off in the end.I think we are better off out, especially after juncker saying out is out and that Britain will get no more concessions from Europe if we stay in.Who wants to be part of the mess that's Europe at the moment |
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| victor |
If we think Brexit will be good for the UK, and we can be like Australia and import all the workers with the skills we need, which is what Gove says. Just what will be the need to train our young people, it will be less expensive to import workers. Just think about it before you vote, no need for apprenticeships, and no need to give bursaries for nurses, just import them. |
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| ginjo |
bursaries for nurses are being stopped any way as far as I know.Risks with leave or stay but if we were not in the European union would you want to join it now? I bet most people would say no, its in a mess so think about that |
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| gazzer |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteIf we think Brexit will be good for the UK, and we can be like Australia and import all the workers with the skills we need, which is what Gove says. Just what will be the need to train our young people, it will be less expensive to import workers. Just think about it before you vote, no need for apprenticeships, and no need to give bursaries for nurses, just import them. You have actually given a reason to leave because companies currently import workers from The EU instead of training people. At present the situation is companies find it cheaper to employ people from other countries than to train people from this country.So that makes employment for school leavers harder to find.There is also less jobs for people who train people so its a double whammy.East European countries who spend time and money on training find they have a brain drain as people leave their home counties to work in more prosperous countries. It also keeps a lid on the cost of wages.Its fantastic for the UK as business keeps costs down so we pay a little bit less at the shops but its companies who make bigger profits that get the lions share of the benefits. But the downside is youth unemployment and less money to spend. Millions of jobs have been created in the last few years but wages are not rising and still millions of young people are overlooked.None of it helped with such as knocking bursaries on the head. Its not surprising that leaders of big companies support remain it is they who make out of the EU. Saw this posted "On five live yesterday a businesswoman telling the tale of how her business set up a new process that had to meet EU standards signed off by UK officials. Later it transpired that her European competitors were not having the same rules enforced. She contacted her MP who said he could no nothing she needed to contact her MEP. He said he had no influence and she needed to employ a lobbyist. The cheapest lobbyist wanted £12,000 upfront then a monthly retainer, way out of her companies price range so she has lost revenue because of how the EU works.Twelve grand might not be much for multinationals which might explain why some big companies come out in support of the EU." The Tories,The EU and many other Countries all support big companies and TTIP which will re-inforce how our lives are controlled.Do not know why Labour and the unions are so pro it is their members who will lose most. You end up with for instance a company like Capita who run services in the NHS,collect congestion chare payments in London and run the Gas Safe Register.Jack of all trades master of none, gone from 2 employees in 1984 to 75,000 now.There is no chance of a new company starting up to trade against them.Its only slightly better than a nationalised monopoly. With a small business the owners generally spend their income locally but with these big companies we are only buying the directors an holiday home in the South of France or the Caribbean in the case of Richard Branson who was telling us which way to vote. Sadly none of the current political leaders will do anything against companies who farm out jobs to the cheapest worker from wherever which started under Blair and is backed by all party leaders. Eventually it will change, after a far right or far left party is elected in a EU Country(France next year?) it will shock mainstream parties into action. |
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| skippy |
been and put my cross on the ladies down there said about 50 percent already voted. i remember people saying it would be good to have free trade back in the 70s, trouble is we are no longer FREE , all go vote make it count. freedom may come soon i hope. |
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| victor |
You are right Gazzer this Conservative government are doing away with bursaries, and just who is running the Brexit campaign ?. |
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| gazzer |
quoteYou are right Gazzer this Conservative government are doing away with bursaries, and just who is running the Brexit campaign ?. Top Tories are running both leave and remain I am surprised Corbyn still has not made his mind up and become a leader for whichever side he is voting for. |
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events sale / wanted general have your say looking for.. skippy greengrass |
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