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ted
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19/03/2012 : 22:25:09      reply with quote



Peter - Any reason why you are personally endorsing a candidate for the council election on a site that should remain neutral?

seems highly questionable that you would choose to endorse the candidate who was kicked out of his own party for alleged dodgy dealings.

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Peter
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20/03/2012 : 13:28:40      reply with quote


Ted you are right in saying the site should be politically neutral and in national politics I keep my thoughts to myself. However, this is local politics and something is not quite right here.

Councillor Naylor failed to make it on to a shortlist of candidates in November and appealed against this, but the Keighley and Ilkley Conservative Association continued with the selection process for the ward, choosing Andrew Rowley as its candidate (even though Councillor Naylor was still waiting for an appeal to be heard about the reason for the non-selection).

Councillor Adrian Naylor has represented us on Bradford Council for nearly 6 years and in that time I know he has done an excellent job and put Silsden first….. Galas, Christmas Markets, putting up and taking down the Christmas lights etc., Adrian is there helping.

He is also a Silsden Town Councillor, he lives here and knows what is happening in Silsden, and cares.

In the next few years Bradford will try to build 2000 houses and double the population of Silsden. There are no plans for infrastructure improvements, sewerage, waste water, schools, and few provisions for jobs. We need Councillor Adrian Naylor to stand up for us and put our interests forward. Those of us that bothered to turn up for the meeting about the Local Development Framework (LDF) will know how passionate Adrian Naylor is about Silsden.

Andrew Rowley lives in Shipley, he said his main priorities would be tackling crime and anti-social behaviour, if elected in May.

Why would anyone who lives in Shipley, who has been selected to toe the party line care anything about 2000 new houses being built in Silsden?

Local elections are not about national party political ideas (with a policy to build on green belt), but electing the right person who will represent us in Silsden, and who cares about Silsden.

I hope this answers your question of why I support the re-election of Adrian Naylor as our INDEPENTENT candidate for Addingham, Silsden, and Steeton.

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dexter
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20/03/2012 : 14:07:03      reply with quote


Whatever the ins and outs about Mr Naylor's leaving to become an Independent, and I suspect no one will ever know for sure why, this issue seems to be all about "In the next few years Bradford will try to build 2000 houses and double the population of Silsden. There are no plans for infrastructure improvements, sewerage, waste water, schools, and few provisions for jobs." I quote from Peter's post.
This is scaremongering on a large scale...it is impossible to build 2000 homes here in the next few years. It is impossible to build them without support infrastructure. You cannot build 2000 homes without creating jobs. Where are the people to buy these homes in the current state of the economy? Where are the banks with the mortgage funds to provide the loans?
Let's have a bit of reality please...long term aspirations may suggest some expansion of Silsden, but in the next few years? Not possible.
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20/03/2012 : 16:15:44      reply with quote


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Whatever the ins and outs about Mr Naylor's leaving to become an Independent, and I suspect no one will ever know for sure why, this issue seems to be all about "In the next few years Bradford will try to build 2000 houses and double the population of Silsden. There are no plans for infrastructure improvements, sewerage, waste water, schools, and few provisions for jobs." I quote from Peter's post.
This is scaremongering on a large scale...it is impossible to build 2000 homes here in the next few years. It is impossible to build them without support infrastructure. You cannot build 2000 homes without creating jobs. Where are the people to buy these homes in the current state of the economy? Where are the banks with the mortgage funds to provide the loans?
Let's have a bit of reality please...long term aspirations may suggest some expansion of Silsden, but in the next few years? Not possible.
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What is possible in the near future is the general plan will be accepted by the council even if the houses are not built straight away. However, its easy to build on green fields and you would be surprised how quickly they would be built. They used the same arguments as you have listed about High Royds, but have you been passed recently. Didnt take them long did it.
So, no its not scaremongering on any scale.
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localman
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20/03/2012 : 18:28:14      reply with quote


independents never last long so in he long term it will be just a wasted vote I think we should all vote for the labour women as she does live in silsden mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm did not like saying that but it makes sense.
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dexter
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20/03/2012 : 19:34:14      reply with quote


I'll tell you what, gazzer, I'll buy a bottle of really good Scotch Malt Whisky, and if they've built 2000 houses in Silsden by December 2015, I'll treat you. If they fall a few hundred short...we'll drink it anyway happy :)
Put it in your diary happy :)
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Peter
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20/03/2012 : 22:13:00      reply with quote


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The LDF will guide future growth and development in particular housing, employment, leisure and retail for the next 10 - 20 years. It will affect everyone who lives, works and visits the district.
From: www.bradford.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/F5D45482-AA79-416A-B237-CC3E83A80442/0/GuidetoAreaActionPlans.pdf
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ted
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20/03/2012 : 23:12:43      reply with quote



i smell a rat here. Is Peter actually Adrian Naylor?

seems like one hell of an endorsment for a man who has a poor reputation amongst local silsdeners. Skippy is the key player in organising most of the events in silsden, Naylor just seems to take a back seat.

What has actually Naylor done in his time as councillor?

seems unfair on the labour/lib dem candidates who are also against the housing plans.

this site should be neutrel and now we now it is being driven by a tory supporter (Naylor can call himself independant but he's a cameron crony and we all know it)
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dogcatcher
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21/03/2012 : 09:19:37      reply with quote


heck this posting is hotting up besthappy :) one on here for a whilehappy :) but not being into politics i think i will leave to them that knowwink ;)
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localman
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21/03/2012 : 19:19:37      reply with quote


Skippy top man and does it for free now Naylor over the last 3 years £100,000 plus, does not matter how you butter it up peter it is still £100,000 shocked 8O he got off brad met and that is a fact
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skippy
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26/03/2012 : 16:41:46      reply with quote


ted sad :(ive tried to keep out but as ive just agreed to be adrians agent in the ellection i feel able to point out just what adrian has done for silsden,first off youve all seen the fence around the christmas tree, yes he secured that money for us(after i dogged himwink ;))also he got over 100,000 for refurb in town hall , money for speed activated signs,loads more if you require ,so he does work for us happy :)
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ted
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26/03/2012 : 22:21:09      reply with quote



what did he spend his £100,000 expenses on?

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Peter
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26/03/2012 : 23:31:26      reply with quote


Ted the money you referred to was not expenses. Unlike our local councillors, district councillors get paid and Councillor Naylor had extra duties which made it more like a full time job (and not exactly a 9 - 5 job either)

The bulk of the extra money paid to Councillor Naylor over the last few years comes from:

Special Responsibility Allowance (SRA) is an extra allowance payable to councillors who have significant additional responsibilities such as the Leader of the Council, members of the Executive and chairs of committees. The amount of Special Responsibility Allowance varies according to the type of responsibility and is based on a percentage of the Leader's allowance.

FOR FULL DETAILS:
www.bradford.gov.uk/bmdc/government_politics_and_public_administration/council_budgets_and_spending/councillors_statement_of_earnings

.... and whoever wants to know I am not Adrian Naylor. I run this website, it's mine and and has nothing to do with Silsden Council other than I host the council information. The website was started in 2001 to bring all the information about the UDP (Unitary Development Plan) together in one place so we could fight off the 1500 houses they wanted to build in Silsden at the time .... does this sound familiar? The revised UDP plan was accepted in 2005 and expires in 2014 hence its reincarnation as the LDF (Local Development Framework) .... and guess what? they want to build 1700 houses in Silsden.
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old_miner
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27/03/2012 : 09:10:43      reply with quote


Did not motorcycle trials riding get curtailed on Addingham Moor due to complaints from someone who lives nearby.

As motorcycle trials riding has a long and glorious history in Yorkshire, and especially Silsden maybe someone has failed to realise the influence of the local 'Sons of Anarchy'.

Conspiracy theory speculation only, but maybe someone knows the truth out there.
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ICU
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01/04/2012 : 09:50:01      reply with quote


Come on Mr Naylor come clean about these allegations .......<text has been deleted>..... Admit it Mr Naylor or should I say Peter, tell us about these allegations.

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For those of you who wish to know what has been deleted I suggest you contact Roger Rabbit - email roger@hotmail.com as that is ICU's name and the email address given.

This was mischief making and is not acceptable on this forum. Peter
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localman
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01/04/2012 : 17:08:37      reply with quote


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm press freedom not on this site its like naylor's supporters club.
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Peter
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01/04/2012 : 19:19:20      reply with quote


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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm press freedom not on this site its like naylor's supporters club.

My site, my rules. I'm quite tolerant of comments on this site, even some of yours localman, but this was out of order. However please feel free to contact Roger Rabbit on the email he has given. happy :)

I could make this a closed forum, one you have to sign up to and be approved before posting anything but it's open and long may it remain so.
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ICU
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01/04/2012 : 22:39:09      reply with quote


Interesting how you hide the truth by deleting my post what are you afraid of Mr Nailor. The truth will come out soon and I would advise everyone to do a freedom of information request to Bradford Council.Tell us the truth Mr Nailor the public have a right to know.
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offcumden
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01/04/2012 : 23:16:13      reply with quote


Why don't you guys give it a rest!

Peter has every right to decide what he puts on his website and has every right to delete anything he considers inappropriate or ill-advised.

What some people on this forum are doing is nothing less than"cyber-bullying" - no matter what their motives are - and in his shoes I would at the very least institute the procedure where these peoples posts are checked before they are allowed to be made public, in fact I would ban them from the forum - I feel he is being far too tolerant with them.

If you don't like the way Peter runs his forum for the people of Silsden then don't use it - go play on FaceBook or Twitter yourself.
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jonno
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02/04/2012 : 18:13:17      reply with quote


Having met Peter I can reliably say that he is not Adrian Naylor or Rupert Murdock but is in fact a very nice chap who is more than tolerant of the many people who make jibes and snide remarks while hiding behind what they feel are "safe" pseudonyms. For heaven's sake grow up!
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localman
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02/04/2012 : 18:29:00      reply with quote


look all that is being asked is why did the cons dump him I think it is a fair question? why is every one being so defensive over the issue its making a lot of people think something has being going on that is not right.
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old_miner
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03/04/2012 : 08:39:10      reply with quote


Well, well ,well. Even Tory Central Office has been caught out on this one.
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ginjo
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03/04/2012 : 09:28:18      reply with quote


what do you mean old miner?
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old_miner
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03/04/2012 : 21:13:16      reply with quote


'localman' the voice of Tory Central office does not know what is going on. Obviously the local Tory mafia is ignoring orders from Tory Central.
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ted
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03/04/2012 : 21:37:45      reply with quote



as regular visitors/contributors to the site, we have a right to express our concern at the political bias being used by the administrator to influence our votes on a website that should be independent.

The fact that the candidate being heralded as 'our saviour' has a suspicious background just adds to the concern.
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Peter
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03/04/2012 : 22:36:13      reply with quote


I answered your concerns at the start of this topic, everyone will have their chance to vote for the candidate of choice on the 3rd May - isn't this a democratic process?

Don't forget to vote or you may not get what you wish for!
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03/04/2012 : 23:11:31      reply with quote


I would say it's Peters site he can do as he wishes with it
No one forces anyone to read or post on here
its not the BBC
As far as I'm concerned Peter can do as he pleases as long as he doesn't break any laws
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localman
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04/04/2012 : 19:00:59      reply with quote


talk about teachers pet, as for me being a tory not a hope in hell I am to right wing for themangry if I had a party it would be the one that promised a 4th reich
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Peter
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04/04/2012 : 19:15:42      reply with quote


Enough.... topic closed
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