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Topic : Developer will be expected to pay towards Silsden and Steeton link |
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| Peter |
Plans for a new footbridge linking Steeton with Silsden have been given a £120,000 boost. The bridge is planned to stretch over the busy Aire Valley trunk road, where campaigners say existing pedestrian crossings are not safe. Currently, Silsden residents have to cross the road on foot to get to the Steeton and Silsden railway station on the other side. More infrmation goo.gl/pA2vk3 Councillor Alex Ross-Shaw, executive member for regeneration at Labour-led Bradford Council, said: “The footbridge is expected to cost over £1 million and £220,000 has been promised to date from housing developers. “These contributions are only paid when work starts on the house building and that will allow us to allocate some of the money to pay for formal plans to be drawn up. "The first stage will be a detailed feasibility study and £30,000 of developer contributions has been earmarked for this. |
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| Peter |
Do we need a footbridge across the A629? A footbridge across the A629 to the railway station seems like a good idea, but do we need one? Think about it: Where is it going to start and where is it going to go to - to the rail station, but on which side? So we will be able to get across the road to get to Leeds/Bradford, but how do you get across the railway lines when you come back? How many people walk to the station from Silsden? - do they really like walking? How many people walk from the station to Silsden, AND WHY? I'm sure many more people walk from the station because there is no transport available when they get off the train. If you miss a bus you can expect at least a 30 min wait for the next bus - is it any wonder people walk. What distance is reasonable to walk, it may be reasonable if you live south of the canal but for the majority we are talking about 30mins+ and some of that will be up or down a steep hill. If the bridge takes people out of their way they will not use it, it's human nature, like taking a short cut rather than the official route. Why can't we park at the station car park? Perhaps it's because all those people from North Yorkshire and lancashire have got there first, to use the subsidised travel we pay for through our council tax. The bridge is estimated to cost £1,000,000+ but I have heard a figures of £1.5 m. This is an awful lot of money which could be use in a different way: I can't believe anyone using the station walks along Keighley Road by choice. Why would you want to walk along a narrow footpath, by the side of a very busy road in all weathers, and if it's raining be soaked by cars splashing through the puddles (and there are some BIG puddles) on Keighley Road. Wouldn't it be better to use the money to subsidised transport which benefits Silsdeners - a frequent shuttle which goes around the houses and can get you to and from the station in the dry (at a reasonable flat rate cost). If you missed a bus you would know there would be another along in 10-15minutes. This could be sustainable transport (electric / hybrid). |
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| Grandparent |
I seem to remember the developer at Steeton was to create a foot path from their new houses to Steeton and Silsden Railway station. Again if my memory serves, there was found to be environmental and Heath and safety reasons why this couldn't happen. And my point is? Don't rely on promises made by developers. |
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| gazzer |
https://www.graham.co.uk/transport-minister-opens-new-hillington-footbridge www.itv.com/news/border/update/2016-09-20/new-footbridge-opens-in-currock/ |
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| Pennypeck |
I think you might be surprised about the size of the foot-fall between both Silsden and Steeton to and from the train station. It is considerable all 7 days of the week. True, some will be walking in the apparent absence of reliably connecting public transport but for many it is viewed as their exercise each day. The weather dictates how enjoyable it is! Most are probably unaware of the magnitude of the foot-fall in the early morning, before what is deemed to be the rush-hour, and similarly those on their return journey at the other end of the day, even approaching midnight. I'm not sure whether public transport is even an option for them at these extremes of the day. With respect to a bridge, surely there needs to be a structure that spans not only the dual carriageway, but also Station Road in Steeton, serving both Silsdeners and Steetoners, the latter only required because the platforms are at either side of Station Road. Such a structure can soon become relatively complex and increase the original costing estimates considerably. In the extreme, it might even require a stanchion in the middle of the roundabout, given that in an ideal world the Silsdeners require a diagonal crossing of the roundabout to catch Keighley-bound trains. Should then the first item on the list be the relocation of the Keighley-bound platform to the other side of Keighley Road, approximately opposite the current Skipton bound platform, but both being accessible from the same (western) side of Station Road? For sure it would eliminate the requirement for a "multi-pronged" bridge as the Steetoners wouldn't have to cross anything, thus reverting to the intended single bridge over the dual carriageway, which, by the way, would form part of a Steeton to Silsden walkway that has been talked about recently. Done properly, by procuring a piece of the wood yard, drop-off and pick-up access can surely be improved, and on a level basis, perhaps eliminating or reducing the need for steps down to track level. It's not rocket science is it! |
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| gazzer |
quoteI think you might be surprised about the size of the foot-fall between both Silsden and Steeton to and from the train station. It is considerable all 7 days of the week. True, some will be walking in the apparent absence of reliably connecting public transport but for many it is viewed as their exercise each day. The weather dictates how enjoyable it is! Most are probably unaware of the magnitude of the foot-fall in the early morning, before what is deemed to be the rush-hour, and similarly those on their return journey at the other end of the day, even approaching midnight. I'm not sure whether public transport is even an option for them at these extremes of the day. With respect to a bridge, surely there needs to be a structure that spans not only the dual carriageway, but also Station Road in Steeton, serving both Silsdeners and Steetoners, the latter only required because the platforms are at either side of Station Road. Such a structure can soon become relatively complex and increase the original costing estimates considerably. In the extreme, it might even require a stanchion in the middle of the roundabout, given that in an ideal world the Silsdeners require a diagonal crossing of the roundabout to catch Keighley-bound trains. Should then the first item on the list be the relocation of the Keighley-bound platform to the other side of Keighley Road, approximately opposite the current Skipton bound platform, but both being accessible from the same (western) side of Station Road? For sure it would eliminate the requirement for a "multi-pronged" bridge as the Steetoners wouldn't have to cross anything, thus reverting to the intended single bridge over the dual carriageway, which, by the way, would form part of a Steeton to Silsden walkway that has been talked about recently. Done properly, by procuring a piece of the wood yard, drop-off and pick-up access can surely be improved, and on a level basis, perhaps eliminating or reducing the need for steps down to track level. It's not rocket science is it! Rather than moving platforms you could just have a zebra crossing on Station Rd bridge. Few of the people that walk to the station will be bothered to use a footbridge before and after rush hour |
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| Corky Yorky |
It is clear to anyone that to have a bridge across the Aire Valley Trunk Road will require much more thought in its design to do what it is required for us. Also it will cost considerably more than the current figures bashed around. £1 million is nothing in this day and age for a scheme such as this. Steeton is proposed as a transport hub...so we need a a lot more money thrown at this scheme to make a lot of parties happy! Cyclists need a safe crossing too! |
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| HurricaneHector |
Am I missing something here, anyone wishing to use the Skipton bound platform can walk over the road bridge that spans the railway, there are steps at both sides of the railway for those able to walk from Silsden. |
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| Peter |
quoteAm I missing something here, anyone wishing to use the Skipton bound platform can walk over the road bridge that spans the railway, there are steps at both sides of the railway for those able to walk from Silsden. Given the opportunity, wouldn't it be nice to make the bridge disable compliant? Perhaps a survey of passengers needs is required before money is wasted on this project. The £30K mentioned in the KN report sounds like they know what passengers require. |
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| HurricaneHector |
I Totally agree with you it should be ddr compliant, but the footpath down to avtr is to narrow for a wheelchair. |
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