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localman
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06/01/2012 : 14:35:54      reply with quote


well well well here she goes again opening her big mouth so all white people are racist so that is why we the tax payer have paid out £50,000,000 yes 50 million to sent two white men to jail for a racist murder would that have happened any were else in the world well the answer is a big fat NO we all agree it took to long for justice to be done and a lot of people were at fault and i mean the police, but to call us racist when all we ever do is bend over backwards for all these people that come and screw our country its all right for them to stab each other to death, to honour kill there own children, to deal drugs the list goes on and on but we are still called racist diane abbott was the women who was critical of the grammer shcool system only to be found out she had her daughter in private education we can only take so much if they call us racist maybe we should become racist make diane happy then shocked 8O
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06/01/2012 : 17:45:01      reply with quote


These people. Us. Come and screw our country. Stab each other to death. Which category do you think Stephen Lawrence fits in? Stephen was 18 years old and fatally attacked by a gang of racist's. Only an internet troll would seek to find reasons in the words of an mp who frankly is notorious for blunders.
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localman
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06/01/2012 : 18:17:07      reply with quote


charlene downes murdered by asian men the police know who they are but she is white so know one really pushing it some have been in court and ended up getting comp really makes you think.


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06/01/2012 : 18:25:26      reply with quote


One good thing about Diane Abbot's very stupid statement. It is flushing out a few opinions based on ignorance of the real history and success of the UK.
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localman
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06/01/2012 : 18:37:31      reply with quote


success of the UKlaugh :D
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CORNY
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06/01/2012 : 18:45:39      reply with quote


The English defence League has found the case of Charlene, and is using Charlene Downes as propoganda and shame on them. Girls have been, and are, as we speak, getting abused, physically, mentally. emotionally, sexually, and by sheer neglect by white men, and most often by their own family. Murder and abuse does not have ethnic borders
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06/01/2012 : 19:02:30      reply with quote


Hi Corny, you have correctly identified the board troll, there is little point arguing with him - do what most of us seem to do these days and ignore him - your replies only spur him on, they don't discourage him at all.
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06/01/2012 : 19:44:37      reply with quote


Hiya Steetonblue, thank you for your good advice, i will not respond to the Silsden troll again, happy :)
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ted
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07/01/2012 : 08:32:37      reply with quote



peter - localman has over stepped the mark with his comments above. he has exposed himself as a racist and should be removed from the forum permanently. failure to do so would bring shame on this online community.

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07/01/2012 : 08:59:16      reply with quote


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peter - localman has over stepped the mark with his comments above. he has exposed himself as a racist and should be removed from the forum permanently. failure to do so would bring shame on this online community.


One thing why groups with certain views can flourish is when people come out with this type of reply."racist"..."ban them"
If you read localmans posts im sure he trades with asian traders in Silsden.....in fact wouldnt be surprised if he lives off their curries..hardly the mark of a racist.
Whats wrong with a "constructive argument" if you dont agree with his views.
Overtime I have disagreed with a lot of what he says but if he doesnt threaten harm on anyone then he has a right to say what he wants.
Mind you he did say something about burning witches in a post so maybe he should be banned!!!!!
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localman
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07/01/2012 : 14:14:20      reply with quote


troll dont make me laugh grow up and ted were you the lad at school who always ran to teacher if some one said some thing you did not like shocked 8O point 1 I am not a racist point 2 I belive in free speech for all point 3 you may not like what I say sometimes but we need to debate these things you must all agree on that. Now do not start ranting but how can we have a group of people from the african gongo living in london who over three days butchered and tortured a 15 year lad and in the end drowned him in a bath because they say he was possessed? why are they here? and diane abbott has also know called london cabbies racist is this women losing the plot?
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ted
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07/01/2012 : 14:40:35      reply with quote



gazzer there comes a point when 'freedom of speech' becomes offensive and out of order. so should we just condone it because we're all allowed to say what we want?

localman has insinuated that all black people 'stab each other to death, honour kill there own children, deal drugs etc' which i find is the epitomy of narrow mindedness.

should we have not bothered fighting the nazis on the basis that adolf could say/do what he wants?
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07/01/2012 : 18:07:41      reply with quote


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success of the UKlaugh :D
Well - you know of a better place? where?

Grass might look greener but never tastes as good.
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skippy
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07/01/2012 : 22:56:55      reply with quote


ere old miner dont be rude about my matelaugh :D(greengrass)laugh :Dlaugh :Dhes not that sour realeylaugh :D
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08/01/2012 : 09:31:05      reply with quote


I think Dianne Abbot was stupid in the extreme for saying what she did. Her remark was racist no matter how she tries to backpedal and put it into an extremely bizarre and unlikely context. Should she be allowed to apologise and carry on, no I don't think so. We do, and should, hold our elected representatives to a higher standard than the general public. Her seat should be put up for re-election and let's see what the voters in her constituency think of her now.

I also do think there is a double standard in regards to black people being allowed to get away with making racist remarks more than white people. If Dianne Abbot had been a white male she would have been forced to resign by now.

As for localman's remarks well, I can't defend his views as they are too extreme, but it is true that honor killings do take place, many Muslims treat females as very much second class citizens, Sharia courts are a fact and are extremely biased against females in every respect, etc, etc and these things are wrong. But unfortunately we are going the way of Sweden, where even telling the truth about these things is becoming illegal if someone finds what you say offensive. People in general need to grow thicker skins and stop being such whiny babies!

I'm sorry if telling the facts about what happens in other peoples faiths and communities is offensive to them. If it's so distasteful perhaps they should do something to change these things instead of crying "racist" every time someone says something negative about them.
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08/01/2012 : 11:53:40      reply with quote


Well said Jonno, my thoughts entirely, but I could not have expressed it as well as you.]
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I think Dianne Abbot was stupid in the extreme for saying what she did. Her remark was racist no matter how she tries to backpedal and put it into an extremely bizarre and unlikely context. Should she be allowed to apologise and carry on, no I don't think so. We do, and should, hold our elected representatives to a higher standard than the general public. Her seat should be put up for re-election and let's see what the voters in her constituency think of her now.

I also do think there is a double standard in regards to black people being allowed to get away with making racist remarks more than white people. If Dianne Abbot had been a white male she would have been forced to resign by now.

As for localman's remarks well, I can't defend his views as they are too extreme, but it is true that honor killings do take place, many Muslims treat females as very much second class citizens, Sharia courts are a fact and are extremely biased against females in every respect, etc, etc and these things are wrong. But unfortunately we are going the way of Sweden, where even telling the truth about these things is becoming illegal if someone finds what you say offensive. People in general need to grow thicker skins and stop being such whiny babies!

I'm sorry if telling the facts about what happens in other peoples faiths and communities is offensive to them. If it's so distasteful perhaps they should do something to change these things instead of crying "racist" every time someone says something negative about them.
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ted
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09/01/2012 : 11:56:11      reply with quote


the point is that all religions and all races commit crimes.

it is absurd to act as if one race commits more crimes than another, thats where the racist element comes in.

im too intelligent to be in a conversation of this nature with such douchebags
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localman
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09/01/2012 : 16:20:33      reply with quote


so ted we (the english) are now no better than say places like Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Rawanda, Burma, Somalia, Russia the list goes on but one thing stays the same they all want to come and live here is that because we are racist? or is it this country is full of mugs just like you who want to give every thing away which our fore bearers worked so hard for AND STOP INSULTING ANY ONE WHO QUESTIONS WHAT YOU SAY
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Peter
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09/01/2012 : 16:40:30      reply with quote


Strong, reasoned, constructive debate I can live with BUT please DO NOT INSULT other contributors to the forum sad :( - take care what you write on here.

Thanks, Peter
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gazzer
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09/01/2012 : 18:06:07      reply with quote


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the point is that all religions and all races commit crimes.

it is absurd to act as if one race commits more crimes than another, thats where the racist element comes in.

I dont have the figures but your spot on. People of all races,religions and even none religious people commit crimes.
However I would be gobsmacked if every single race commits excatly the same number of crimes.
One thing for sure nobody on this forum knows the answer to which one is the worst.
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localman
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09/01/2012 : 21:14:14      reply with quote


here is the top 5 list,according to Nation Master .com this is a list of their top 5. You will notice Columbia leading the way...

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
#2 South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
#3 Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
#4 Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
#5 Russia: 0.201534 per 1,000 people
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jay
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10/01/2012 : 22:43:51      reply with quote


I dont have the figures but your spot on. People of all races,religions and even none religious people commit crimes.
However I would be gobsmacked if every single race commits excatly the same number of crimes.
One thing for sure nobody on this forum knows the answer to which one is the worst.....well said mate
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Tom Day
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14/02/2012 : 22:56:27      reply with quote


Luckily there are no Colombians, South Africans, Jamaicans, Venezuelans or Russians living down my street. I'll mention this to my insurers.
#1 Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
#2 South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
#3 Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
#4 Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
#5 Russia: 0.201534 per 1,000 people
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