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| Galaxy |
As I understand it all the speed humps are within the 20mph zone, so if vehicles travel at no more than 20 mph they shouldn't need to brake (at least not harshly) to get over them and thus there should be very little brake dust being emitted. |
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| Peter |
MAP OF the 20mph zone area and where speed humps are proposed news.silsden.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/17_05793_SUB01-TRAFFIC_MEASURES-5665635.pdf Reference document for the rules about traffic calming measures assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/329454/ltn-1-07_Traffic-calming.pdf SUMMARY PAGE 13 2.4 Consultation Initial consultation 2.4.1 Highway Authorities have a statutory duty to consult the police (Highways Act 1980) when road hump schemes are proposed for a road or area (TAL 03/94) and they must also post notices in the street and in local papers advertising the scheme. The 1999 Highways (Road Hump) Regulations require consultation with the fire service, ambulance service and organisations representing those who use the road. This would include the residents’ organisations and the bus operators, but it may also include haulage or agricultural organisations in certain areas. It is also recommended that the consultation process does not just cover the statutory duties requirements, but that authorities should open up a dialogue with all interested parties (including pedestrians, disabled people, cyclists’ groups and, where appropriate, equestrians) to try to ensure that there is a consensus in favour of the scheme. For disabled people see Laria guidance (www.laria.gov.uk). In recent years, the London Ambulance Service has raised concerns that traffic calming may have a detrimental effect on ambulance response times. A regular dialogue has been established to determine the nature of their concerns and assist with possible solutions. 2.4.3 As a result, the Department has revised its Traffic Advisory Leaflet Fire and Ambulance Services - Traffic Calming: A Code of Practice (TAL 1/07). The revised leaflet re-emphasises the need for local authorities to establish at an early stage of scheme design a meaningful dialogue with the emergency services affected by the schemes. 2.4.4 Highway authorities also have a statutory duty to consult the police when traffic calming (other than road humps) measures are proposed under the Highways (Traffic Calming) Regulations 1999. The authority must also consult organisations or groups who use the road or others who are likely to be affected by the traffic calming work. Whilst these regulations are less prescriptive than the hump regulations, it is suggested that authorities may use the same overall consultation procedure as for road humps for all traffic calming schemes. PAGE 34 3.2.3 Up to June 1999, specific consent from the Secretary of State was needed to install a 20 mph zone scheme. This regime was changed by The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (Amendment) Act Order 1999 (as explained in DETR Circular 05/99), and local traffic authorities no longer need to obtain the consent of the Secretary of State before implementing 20 mph speed limits (including zones). . The changes to the regulations make possible two different means of implementing 20 mph speed limits. Broadly these are: • the use of speed limits, indicated by terminal and repeater signs alone (to diagram 670, TSRGD, Fig. 3.4); • a zonal approach using terminal signs (to diagrams 674 and 675, TSRGD, Fig. 3.5) together with suitable traffic calming measures to provide a self-enforcing element. 3.2.4 It is for local authorities to determine whether speed limits or zones should be used. They will need to decide whether the proposed type of speed limit is appropriate to the area, and beneficial in road safety and environmental terms. Equally important is that the form of speed limit chosen does not require unreasonable levels of enforcement by the police. 3.2.5 When the suitability of a 20 mph speed limit is being considered, the area or length of road involved will also have some relevance. It is generally recommended that 20 mph speed limits (including 20 mph zones) should be imposed over an area consisting of several roads and not just an individual road. There may be exceptions to this, but it is doubtful that a 20 mph zone on a single road would have a significant effect on speeds or accidents unless it was at least 500 metres in length with measures spaced at less than 100 metres apart. Accidents in those areas where 20 mph speed limits would be most successful seldom occur in particular locations, but are scattered throughout the area. PAGE 35 3.2.7 The value of adequate consultation being undertaken cannot be over-emphasised (see Section 2.4). Without such consultation, schemes are more likely to be subject to considerable opposition, both during and after implementation. The police need to be consulted about a scheme; particularly where a 20 mph speed limit is proposed (see paragraph 2.4.1). Residents and businesses within the proposed zone or limit would of course need to be consulted, as well as bus operators and the emergency services. It would also be advisable to consult with school communities within the zone. Additionally, haulage operators may need to be approached, depending on the land use of the area where the zone is to be installed. In more rural areas, the views of users of agricultural equipment will need to be obtained. Local authorities should consult on concept and detailed scheme designs, and be prepared to modify schemes to meet valid concern |
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| midway |
Hand delivered today |
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| midway |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) No worries now, the wife is on the case. |
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| hat |
any idea how far these have been delivered? we've had nothing on Aireville Crescent |
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| gazzer |
quoteAs I understand it all the speed humps are within the 20mph zone, so if vehicles travel at no more than 20 mph they shouldn't need to brake (at least not harshly) to get over them and thus there should be very little brake dust being emitted. If that is the case and vehicles travel below 20mph then speed bumps are not required |
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| Peter |
Massive 20mph zone planned for Silsden - Keighley News - 16 Jan 2020 www.keighleynews.co.uk/news/18159647.speed-limit-cut-plan/ |
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| victor |
This could be a bit of good news for all on Middleway. I have been talking to the site manager and he said that the waste from clearing the site would be taken down Hawber cote lane and not Middleway. |
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| Peter |
quoteMassive 20mph zone planned for Silsden - Keighley News - 16 Jan 2020 www.keighleynews.co.uk/news/18159647.speed-limit-cut-plan/ ... and traffic calming measures on this scale will not be cheap - do we really need them? Count up the number of proposed humps and bumps on the map and work it out...... www.wiltshire.gov.uk/highways-works-cost |
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| gazzer |
Funny how there is tarmac for speed humps but none for pot holes |
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| midway |
Thanks Victor for your reassurance but unfortunately Stephen McFadden tells me there will be earth removal from the site along Middleway. |
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| victor |
That is funny because I told him people on Middleway were worried about the wagons and he told me the waste was to go down Hawber cote lane. We shall have to wait and see, could be that they are finding it very hard to get the empty wagons onto Bolton road. |
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| midway |
they are probably keeping their options open,he was a bit taken back when i told him the road didn't meet minimum requirements as regarding width and construction.Did you notice if that helicopter landed on the school site on Tuesday? |
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| victor |
No Middy I was out most of Tuesday. |
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| victor |
I have just checked the Pre-commencement planning conditions, and it shows the route to the site is along Kirkgate up Bolton road turn RIGHT onto Dale view along Banklands lane and up Hawber cote lane. The wagons are in fact coming DOWN Bolton road and turning LEFT onto Dale view. |
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| victor |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Just an update, a large area between were the new school building is going and the main entrance has been cleared, hard cored and first coat tarmac put down. Now they will be clearing the area for the school building and taking the soil away by wagon, happy days. |
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| Corky Yorky |
School HGV Trucks Didn't I read somewhere that HGV trucks were that will serve the school development were to come down Bolton Rd from the North? I have noticed a significant number of Red HGV lorries coming through Silsden from Keighley Rd and turning right onto Dale View. Would appreciate if anyone can correct me on this? |
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| wheelaman123 |
Corky yorky, you are right, i read that trucks were to come down from the Addingham side and turn left into Dale View. I meet a truck on Dale View this morning struggling to move around parked cars & vans and he came into Dale View from the town side. |
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| victor |
The wagons are to come through town up Bolton road and on to Dale view to the site on Hawber cote lane. At the start of the site work the soil will be taken down Hawber cote lane along Banklands lane and out of Dale view turning left onto Bolton road and through town. When the site is well on some waste might have to be taken down Middleway. This is what I have been told. |
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| hat |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) user wiped their message |
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| Peter |
 Picture taken Saturday 5th April 2020 |
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| Peter |
The new school 19 April 2020  |
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| hat |
they seem to have scaled back the amount of people/ activity on site since Easter, probably due to the need to distance or they could be struggling for materials the same as many builders |
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| victor |
At 9-50 pm last night We could hear loud banging coming from the storage containers on the site, then I saw two men walking about on the site. I shouted to them and the started running towards Drabble house, I contacted the police and they attended but did not enter the site. So if you live on Hawber cote drive or lane Banklands lane Middleway,or Aireville cres check your outbuildings. |
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