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window
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06/10/2011 : 14:52:37      reply with quote


Worried about flu? Put it in perspective.
Total deaths from flu -- 2010:- 600
Total deaths from road traffic accidents 2010 – 1850. Three times as many.
Flu info source:- www.nhsemployers.org/Aboutus/PressReleases/2011/Pages/NHS-Employers-launches-staff-flu-vaccination-campaign.aspx
Traffic source:- www.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-business-plan-indicators-impact-06
I am not against immunisation against flu.
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steetonblue
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06/10/2011 : 17:15:20      reply with quote


there's no vaccine for car accidents.
Flu is preventable in a lot of cases - those who are at risk should have their vaccine - full stop! The incidence and deaths from flu would have been much higher had people not been vaccinated
THIS IS A DANGEROUS AND VERY NAIIVE MISINTERPRETATION OF THE STATISTICS!!!!!!!!!! if you are eligible for a vaccine and in an at risk group, should have the vaccine.
As a health professional - this has really angered me!!!
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jackal
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06/10/2011 : 17:25:31      reply with quote


Surely if the advice or comments made on a forum cause death or attribute to it then peter should remove the post. I too think that this is a very silly way of putting the statistics.... You can't compare death in an accident and death by not having the flu jab....

Please edit your post so it does not suggest that at risk people not take the jab
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steetonblue
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06/10/2011 : 17:59:37      reply with quote


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@windows
I'll also add that that first link is an article about staff having the vaccine - not at risk groups and while it contains the statistic quoted - it does not contain any stats about mortality/incidence.
I also acknowledge that your posting does not say "don't have the flu jab" explicitly but it is obviously how it is meant to read. If that is not what you meant, please edit your post - if it is, perhaps Peter could look at this subject as advising people about the flu vaccine is a job for professionals in a professional setting not for random people on forums!
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jonno
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06/10/2011 : 18:56:55      reply with quote


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posted by window

I am not against immunisation against flu.

What rubbish, you so clearly are suggesting that people should not bother having the flu jab. What credentials do you have, I wonder, to be giving people health advice?

Even if at risk people don't do it for themselves they should do it for others. Ever heard of "herd immunity"? It's why mumps, measles and rubella were nearly wiped out, until that idiot Wakefield started spouting rubbish like you are.

Peter, can I respectfully request/suggest that Window's post be deleted asap in view of it's extremely dangerous implied advice.
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dexter
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06/10/2011 : 19:19:01      reply with quote


I agree, everybody should have the flu jab that can get it, and it only costs £7.50 at Superdrug in Keighley if you are not on the NHS list.
The worrying thing is that it appears only about a third of NHS staff on average bother to get the jab, presumably free? Don't they worry about passing on the virus to patients?
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Cobydaler
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06/10/2011 : 19:36:09      reply with quote


I am not against immunisation against flu.

Which post is everybody reading ??? . I cannot find any recomendation to not having the flu jab anywhere in the post . Statistics can be made to say anything you want . Everybody then makes up their mind whether to agree with them or not .
Thats called democracy , otherwise its called an autocracy .
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jonno
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07/10/2011 : 07:38:47      reply with quote


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I'm reading the same post that you are Cobydaler.

To quote/link in the way Window has and then claim "I am not against immunisation against flu.", it's like saying I'm a vegetarian and then eating a big fat steak, it's totally contradicting yourself.

Now, come on, anyone can see the implied suggestion in the first post is don't bother having the flu jab. To claim otherwise is just nonsense.

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CORNY
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07/10/2011 : 11:30:00      reply with quote


I don't suppose Window was deliberately trying to be misleading, however, although the 600 deaths caused directly from flu is correct, there were another 3000 plus deaths in the UK last year from flu related causes. People suffering from asthma, heart conditions, and diabetes can be seriously affected by a bout of flu, and one single vaccination can protect the most vunerable.To quote Churchill, "There are lie's, damned lies, and statistic's"
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bandnwire
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07/10/2011 : 15:25:39      reply with quote


I have just had my flu jab. I have been having the jab for many years, and would certainly not miss it.
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jackal
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07/10/2011 : 16:02:51      reply with quote


Even if the flu jab saves one life its worth it and by your silence on this post I think you know it also (window's)
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steetonblue
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07/10/2011 : 16:18:22      reply with quote


I think we have been Trolled!

Windows seems to have deliberately started this thread to stir up trouble, I'm bowing out of this one (until someone else posts some dangerous clap trap)
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Golden Oldie
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07/10/2011 : 18:23:42      reply with quote


Please, if you are eligable, HAVE THE JAB. Any precaution is better than none, and don't believe all the old wives tales that go with it. You will not get flu, you will not be desperately ill, the worst bit is the needle!!!!
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dexter
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07/10/2011 : 20:11:34      reply with quote


The flu pandemic of 1918 killed 50 million people worldwide, less than 100 years ago.
It mustn't happen again, get the jab, it includes swine flu.
We're due to get ours tomorrow morning, bring it on ! happy :)
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Cobydaler
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08/10/2011 : 00:55:09      reply with quote


The flu pandemic of 1918 killed 50 million people worldwide
& ended the 1st world war . Maybe nature ballances its self out now & then .?
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silsden resident
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08/10/2011 : 10:50:06      reply with quote


please have it even if you are not vulnerable had mine on thursday still here
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