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Topic : The Nab - trials bikes no longer allowed to practice rumour |
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| Beta girl |
Can anyone shed any light on the rumours regarding the Nab being closed by the council. No more practicing for trials bikes! If this is true can anyone provide the legal reasons. How long has this venue been used as a trials venue? 20 years!? |
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| alan |
I always thought the land was owned by the Fothergills? What has it to do with Bradford? |
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| Beta girl |
Yes you are right Fothergill's do own the land, however rumour has it someone has complained and they (the council)have invoked the 14 day rule.(There can only be 14 days a year usage for trials). A lot of trialists have been asking what the situation is and how to deal with it legally and where they can practice. We are passionate about our sport and don't want to lose one of the best venues in the Country. There are a number of young talented kids here in the Silsden area who compete in British rounds up there, not just motor bike trials but normal bike trials also. We just want to know what the problem is and work out a solution. I can't believe it is noise related as there are very keen regulations to adhere to and trials is all about control/ balance not speed ask Dougie! |
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| Baldybogey |
Whilst walking from Ilkley to Silsden recently we noticed music. As we approached Silsden it was getting louder. We walked a good 20 mins before we came across the trials being held. If we could hear the music way up on the moor then I'm sure it could be heard by farms and the caravan site close to the trials venue. Beleive me, I have not complained as I couldn't give a damn but others may have. It would be a shame that your sport is hampered by loud music, when of course that is not really a necessity for you to be able to train or compete. Just a suggestion as to why someone may have complained..... I have no real knowledge of what has/is going on |
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| alan |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Unbelievable that someone has complained. Hope it's not one of those who whinges about the kids hanging around Silsden. Just a suggestion to all interested parties, why don't you come along to Silsden Town Council on the first Thursday in the month to put your case to Silsden. Though Silsden Town Council doesn't really have a say I'm sure that they would support your case with a letter to Bradford! |
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| Beta girl |
Many thanks to both of you for replying and your suggestions. I have approached the Council in the past with the old chestnut drugs, lack of police etc. Perhaps they could shed light on what the problem is.I had heard a whisper that it was a guy who couldn't get out to get his Sunday paper that complained.....no comment! I know that some of the guys are putting a petition together, but we need to know what the reasons are for the closure before handing over the petition. Cheers Guys. |
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| grandad |
Beta Girl, Why don't you ring Bradford on 01274 43100, and ask them what if anything they know about this, before you get in a knot about it. |
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| Beta girl |
Thanks Grandad. I have sought legal advice, thanks again for the contact no. Can I just say thanks to you all for your advice, comments. |
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| suarp |
I don't know if there has been a complaint or not made, but I am writing as someone who has a caravan on the site near the trial venue. Yes, it has loud music but this isn't always heard on the site. The occasions it has been heard are very few. My family and I used to go up to watch the trials before my husband was killed. My daughter has even been to up there with her partner and his children. They had a great time there. I know that there are a few moaners on the site who will complain about anything and everything, but I have honestly not heard them complaining about the trials. The owner of the site will certainly miss the campers and bikers that stay there during the trials, so I don't think he would of complained. |
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| Telecat |
Interesting about the music! The club who run trials at the site run a National Trial once a year Where music is played on the Sunday. It's the only time that this occurs and it this year was the first sunday in August. As regards competition trials about 5 others are held a year at the site. On all other weekdays and weekends the land has been left open for practice by both Motorised and pedal Trials bikes. I believe that the person complaining is a councillor who has recently moved into the area. The situation at the moment is that the land owner is perfectly happy with the Trials riders using the land and intends to leave it open. |
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| alan |
Very interesting that it should be a councillor, want to name names? After all if he is a councillor he is accountable! |
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| Baldybogey |
quoteNot only his accountable, he is supposed to be working on behalf of the community not abusing his position for self gratification... Has anyone else complained... Ummmm |
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| Telecat |
Nobody seems to know but the club have a copy of the letter so I'll be asking if there is a contact. |
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| Beta girl |
Telecat, You have obviously the same info. I have regarding the complaint. As i said previously i have been advised by a legal advisor to find out exactly which area of the Council the letter has come from and the number of complaints. I have contacted Enviromental Health they said it hasn't come from them. I have also posted a query to Silsden Council in time for their meeting this week. Lets see what happens! I guess they will have alot of other things on their plate with the Bradford Council plans to axe school places and agree to Sykes Lane development! |
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| Telecat |
Seemingly the Farmer was telling a rider that He could be facing Legal action. I'd like to know when and where. I'd also like to know which part of the council is doing this as nobody seems able to find out. Anybody able to shed any light on this??? |
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| alan |
Try the three Bradford District Councillors - their e-mail addresses are one here - Messers Kelly, Mallinson, and Naylor. |
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| Peter |
www.bradford.gov.uk/asp/councillors/details.asp?Wardid=9 Best of luck |
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| Gary.H.D |
Alan there is always somebody with nothing else better to do (or worry about) so they complain about stupid little things. Maybe we could get an ASBO on the whiners!! |
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| coby1 |
Why do bradford chiefs stop the local kids from doing there trials riding on and around the bus shelter at the road end and leave the Nab as it is |
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| Telecat |
Many thanks for the link. It has been posted on Trialscentral for the Trials community to comment. I shall also be checking with the Bicycle Trials clubs to see if they wish to comment on the Problems with "The Nab". |
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| grandad |
Posted by coby1 Why do Bradford chiefs stop the local kids from doing there trials riding on and around the bus shelter at the road end and leave the Nab as it is. Coby1 are you asking why don’t they stop the kids? Or suggesting that they do in fact stop them; from riding on the walls, and Flower beds. With regard to the bikers on the Nab, I hope this use of open space continues, not only is it good for the youths and anyone who wants to go along and watch, but it gets them out of Town, and away from most of the people who complain about anything remotely to do with the young people of our Town. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! |
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| betarick |
I cant belive that the nab has been closed to all us trials riders!I have lived in silsden all my life and just cant figure this 1 out the nab is great area for us law abinding citzens to practice and as produce some of the worlds greatest trial riders. And with the news that was on the front of the keighley news about the flappit at denholm being closed were does this leave our sport! |
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| wahiba |
I think kids get stopped from riding around the flower beds becasue there is a special area to use in the park. However, according to the motorcycle press that is nothing compared with the act requiring motorbike to be registered whether on or off road, private or public! So, all trials bikes will have to be registered. All riders will have to have a driving license, so nor more motorcycle trials for youngsters. Mind you, it affects road racing and motocross as well so there is likely to be an organised motorsport excemption, but it is not confirmed. If you are concerned do not bother with the town council, go straight for Ann Cryer, this is her problem. |
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| betarick |
Just to let everyone know the nab is open to trials riders i have just been up there this afternoon! Talking to farmer who popped up for is usuall 2 quid,he told me that the complaint was made by someone lower than nab my guess is caravan site! he also told me that he had a local counciler on is side and as agreed to let bikes on at weekends and wednesdays! there as been lot said about this topic that is total rubbish! |
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| nicola |
I would like to add to what my mum said. The only time I have ever heard music at our site is when the sewer rats had their rally in the summer last year. I didn't have a problem with it. I think the moaners willalways find something to moan about my boyfriends children have a bike and a quad and have nowhere to ride it as we live in Manchester and people report it to the police if they are found on a park. WHY COMPLAIN WHEN THEY ARE ON A FARMERS FIELD WHERE THEY CAN RIDE FREELY leave them alone. quote |
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| Telecat |
I can confirm that the Farmer has come to an agreement and the "Nab" is open for practising on the days Betarick has posted. |
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| Telecat |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Further bad news. The Farmer is still fighting to keep the land open! He is requesting letters from individuals and clubs to present to the Magistrates in order to maintain the use of the land. Please send letters of support to:- Mr Alan Fothersgill Doublerstones Farm Silsden BD20 0NL |
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| ishy |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) I was born in Silsden in 1956, not very much to do for youth in those days either. Trials was a big part of the local culture back then, and the Nab and areas around Silsden often had trials practice or events going on. Many local farmers and small business owners enjoyed the sport of trials, with the whole west Yorkshire area being one of!! if not the most active world wide. I don't know why they should see fit to close the nab to a sport that is part of Silsdens history and a good part at that. What is the reason for the council to pressure the land owner to padlock the gate? does it have anything to do with a council member living close to the venue. Should this person even be a public representative, if they would close areas like this just because it's in thier back yard. Every mill in Silsden was in full production when I was a youth there, not many choices for job opportunity local Farms offered some work, mill offered the most employment, now only small business and Farms struggle to keep afloat in the area. Alan is correct, it is time people stood up for thier rights, go along to the next town meeting, |
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| Beta girl |
I had hoped that when i posted this original note it would have been resolved, however it hasn't. Our club Yeadon & Guiseley have posted the statement on various websites to generate help in fighting this closure. I have attended council meetings in the past and basically resolved my particular issues myself. I did send an e-mail to the local council last year about this issue and am still awaiting a reply! Anyway I believe this needs to go straight to the local MP as it has gone beyond local Council level.The local press are also very interested so lets see what happens. Do they realise that the British National Round namely the Mackenzie trial is in doubt because of this action. |
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| Peter |
It's really easy to contact your local council, district councilors or MP ................ use the links bottom LHS of the front page of this website www.silsden.net/framecontents.htm |
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| Telecat |
A Petition has been posted On the Trialscentral Web site in support of keeping the Nab open for use for both Motorcycle and Cycle Trials. If you wish to continue use of the Nab please use the link and show your support. www.trialscentral.com/petition/index.php |
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| bobber |
anybody read about the flappit as well? hundreds of people enjoy a weekend being law abiding, good citizens.now they could be branded criminals!i give up.just glad i lived through relative freedom of the individual.red tape and a jobsworth culture flourish nowadays.i feel sorry for the younger ones who want to enjoy a crime/drugs free lifestyle what chance have they got? |
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| Grianan |
Saw a couple of people riding 'off-road' motorbikes on the roads by the golf course this afternoon - it won't help their cause if the police had stopped them, they didn't look 'road-legal' |
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| Telecat |
quoteThey have nothing to do with "the cause". Like Drivers without insurance, tax etc they are outside the law and if you think you are annoyed think about people like me who spend hours going to venues where we have the permission to use the land!!!!! These MORONS are the same people who in years to come will be on the roads in cars that are not registered, untaxed and uninsured. No doubt you are a car driver so lets blame you for them!! The bike is probably nicked which also has put some poor rider out a lot of money and stops them going out and enjoying the sport. |
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| bee |
Addingham Moorside has now been closed for 12 months against the landowners will supposedly, even though it was a legal events and practice area. So there will be no events or practicing to take place this year!  |
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| alan |
See page 3 this weeks Keighley News - a closure order has been placed by good old Bradford!!! |
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