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gazzer
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24/05/2014 : 21:00:35      reply with quote


I have just read his comments in the T&A and im disgusted. The likes of him are the reason the public do not like politicians.
Usually after elections winners or losers make a statement thanking the voters and fellow candidates.
Not this man. He thanks just his own supporters and makes accusations about the conduct of the other candidates. Sour grapes because his running mate was beaten. Again.
A man who has been telling voters not to vote for certain candidates because they will ALWAYS vote with Labour.....that is false and unproven allegations.Thats underhand

He needs to realise he lost around 75% of his supporters from his last election and start acting for the people of Craven and he may reclaim support to justify hi generous payments.
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24/05/2014 : 21:36:49      reply with quote


Well said Gazzer
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grandad
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24/05/2014 : 21:48:41      reply with quote


Mallinson has always been the same, he once went to the Keighley News saying that a member of the then Parish council voted against CCTV in Silsden, he soon shut up when it was pointed out to him that the vote was not about the cctv; but about money, and the minutes of the meeting are a legal document that will stand up in a court of law.
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victor
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25/05/2014 : 09:26:20      reply with quote


Just wonder if we had had a UKIP candidate standing would he have got as many votes.
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Frankiegray1993
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26/05/2014 : 09:48:35      reply with quote


Thank god there wasn't a ukip candidate!! Anybody would be better than a ukip candidate.
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26/05/2014 : 10:07:53      reply with quote


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Thank god there wasn't a ukip candidate!! Anybody would be better than a ukip candidate.
Not the opinion of most people, any democratic party can stand, thats the good thing about living in a democracy.Personally I think anyone should be able to stand but in local elections party politics should be taken out.
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26/05/2014 : 10:22:40      reply with quote


Only one Question about UKIP, are they what voters think as the acceptable version of the National front. A lot of voters would not admit to voting N.F. but will say they vote UKIP. To me there is very little difference and the N.F has lost a lot of votes, I wonder who they voted for.
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26/05/2014 : 11:13:24      reply with quote


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Only one Question about UKIP, are they what voters think as the acceptable version of the National front..


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26/05/2014 : 11:20:50      reply with quote


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Only one Question about UKIP, are they what voters think as the acceptable version of the National front. A lot of voters would not admit to voting N.F. but will say they vote UKIP. To me there is very little difference and the N.F has lost a lot of votes, I wonder who they voted for.
You do know that one of your new MEP's is Amjad Bashir. I doubt the NF ever had that surname on their membership let alone a successful candidate. Mainstream politicians and their supporters use the race card in desperation.
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26/05/2014 : 13:12:10      reply with quote


gazer 5 years ago in the last E U elections the BNP had 6% of the vote, this time they received 1.14% of the vote. Who do you think nearly 5% of the voters voted for, not the main parties or the Greens.
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26/05/2014 : 13:29:32      reply with quote


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gazer 5 years ago in the last E U elections the BNP had 6% of the vote, this time they received 1.14% of the vote. Who do you think nearly 5% of the voters voted for, not the main parties or the Greens.
You said to you there is no difference between a far right thugish party and UKIP. That is the most ridiculous statement made on silsden.net about the election. Your using the race card to stop a conversation that this country needs regarding our relationship with the EU.
Perhaps eurosceptics have done well throughout Europe because the EU's powers have increased since the last european election.
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26/05/2014 : 14:06:35      reply with quote


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gazer 5 years ago in the last E U elections the BNP had 6% of the vote, this time they received 1.14% of the vote. Who do you think nearly 5% of the voters voted for, not the main parties or the Greens.
Incidently the fact that last time BNP had two seats shows how the PR voting system gives some seats to extremists
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26/05/2014 : 15:06:31      reply with quote


gazer just who do you think the 5% BNP voters voted for this time, that is around 750,000 votes.
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26/05/2014 : 15:43:47      reply with quote


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gazer just who do you think the 5% BNP voters voted for this time, that is around 750,000 votes.
It does not matter, if every vote has gone to UKIP you should be celebrating the fact that extremists have lost a share of the vote.

If Labour gains at the next election at the expense of the Tories, if we followed your logic it would mean Labour had become a Tory party.
I am not sure your point, you seem to be making out UKIP are far right racists because former BNP voters might have voted for them.Should they not have been allowed to vote?
Can I ask you a question. Having read some post on another thread do you have a problem with democracy?
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26/05/2014 : 19:08:30      reply with quote


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Gazzer I think you should take a good look at yourself before talking about democracy or freedom of speech. Was it not you who because you did not agree with my opinion you told Peter to close the topic 18 months ago, the one that Peter apologised for closing.
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26/05/2014 : 19:16:48      reply with quote


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Gazzer I think you should take a good look at yourself before talking about democracy or freedom of speech. Was it not you who because you did not agree with my opinion you told Peter to close the topic 18 months ago, the one that Peter apologised for closing.
I didnt ask for the thread to be closed I pointed out the question had been answered and for the purpose of law the Town Council was democratically elected.Fact. There was no point going over the same thing against facts.
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26/05/2014 : 19:25:48      reply with quote


Whoa, I did not apologise for closing the topic, only for the fact I may have caused you offence. I usually state a reason for closing a topic but on that one I didn't because you had been given valid reasons within the thread as to why the council can be called elected, and it was going around in circles. You were rather rude with your last comment on that topic and I closed it.

If you follow this forum closely you will know I don't take advice from posters about closing any topic. If a topic is closed you can blame me. Peter
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26/05/2014 : 20:02:56      reply with quote


I am sorry Peter but if you think that to say to someone who had no right to close the topic "YOU WISH" is being RUDE then I am very disappointed. After all the nasty comments made to me which you took no action on, and then to say that I was being rude when I said "YOU WISH" I find very strange.
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26/05/2014 : 20:10:58      reply with quote


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I am sorry Peter but if you think that to say to someone who had no right to close the topic "YOU WISH" is being RUDE then I am very disappointed. After all the nasty comments made to me which you took no action on, and then to say that I was being rude when I said "YOU WISH" I find very strange.
I am pretty sure it was closed because the questions had been answered
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26/05/2014 : 20:21:08      reply with quote


Gazzer did you think I was being rude to you, because if you did I am genuinely sorry I did not try to cause offence.
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26/05/2014 : 21:29:24      reply with quote


Please can we get back onto the topic.
I think that so many people vote UKIP because they are fed up with the way the E.U. keep telling us what we can and can not do.
Back in 1970 what ever; when we had the last and only referendum about the E.U. we were asked if we wanted to stay in or leave "A COMMON MARKET" we have never been asked if we wanted to be governed from Europe.
If it ever happens the proposed in/out vote we are promised is not I believe what most of us want, we are happy to participate in a common market with the benefits of less trade barriers etc, but not everything else that goes alone with what we have now.
If any party is prepared to offer such a vote, I believe they will get a landslide victory.
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26/05/2014 : 21:55:06      reply with quote


Grandad I totally agree with your comments. P.S. as I said in a previous post we have a lot more in common than you think.
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27/05/2014 : 07:56:02      reply with quote


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Gazzer did you think I was being rude to you, because if you did I am genuinely sorry I did not try to cause offence.
No I did not think you were being rude, its a discussion thread. But I did not ask for the thread to be closed, I said it might as well be closed as the questions had been fully answered.
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27/05/2014 : 09:01:23      reply with quote


Thank you gazzer, and I am sorry for misrepresenting your comment. Reasonable people DEBATE others Dictate.
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27/05/2014 : 11:33:33      reply with quote


Thank you Victor, we probably do have much in common, and yes reasonable people do debate and not dictate, and do not take offence at this but when one as been proved wrong then it is time to stop pushing ones argument.
At one time people were persecuted because they said the earth was not at the centre of the universe now we know the persecutors were wrong
Yes we are all entitled to believe anything we wish and it is only fair to allow others to have their beliefs.
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27/05/2014 : 14:00:20      reply with quote


Grandad the point that I tried to make was that I disagreed with the process not the result, and I am sorry if I did not make that clear. In a so called safe seat a sitting MP who always gets 80% of the vote, still has to be voted for by the electorate. Even though it would be a forgone conclusion and would save money, I believe they should always be voted in by the electorate. Just to get back on the topic, I doubt that if there had only been one vacancy that Mallinson would have received the most votes.
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27/05/2014 : 14:12:14      reply with quote


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Grandad the point that I tried to make was that I disagreed with the process not the result, and I am sorry if I did not make that clear. In a so called safe seat a sitting MP who always gets 80% of the vote, still has to be voted for by the electorate. Even though it would be a forgone conclusion and would save money, I believe they should always be voted in by the electorate. Just to get back on the topic, I doubt that if there had only been one vacancy that Mallinson would have received the most votes.
Victor, a sitting MP who always gets 80% of the vote would not have to be voted for by anybody, If he was the only candidate, like wise when there are not enough candidates for the Town Council there is not and election the all get a seat unopposed, then any remaining seats are filled by co-option, that is how it works, I am sure all of the Town councillors would prefer that there was an election held every time, not only would that be better for the Town but it would show that the people of the Town cared enough to partisipate in the running of their town.
You may not like it but constantly raking it over will not change a thing.
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27/05/2014 : 14:18:17      reply with quote


I have been quite patient with this thread, but the subject of the topic IS Andrew Mallinson.

NOT UKIP, or Town Council elections.

Please keep to the subject or start a new topic. happy :)

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grandad
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27/05/2014 : 14:26:52      reply with quote


Sorry Peter!
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11/07/2014 : 06:25:17      reply with quote


www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/11331433.Councillor_claims_new_housing_estate_could_merge_villages/

Mr Mallinson seems quite concerned about Steeton & Eastburn losing their identities, yet is pushing plans through for Silsden, which will have exactly the same effect?
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