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Topic : Petrol Prices |
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| old_miner |
A big chicken coming home to roost. Heads buried in sand and a love affair with the car have blinded most people to reality. It is not going to get better. There is only a finite supply of oil. Times they are a changing. Now everyone will be moaning about the lack of public transport. At one time Keighley had the answer, electric vehicles. Trams and then trolley buses!! Bring them back. Keighley to Ilkley via Silsden will make a good trolley bus route. Trains are electrified, so now it is time for the roads. |
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| Bricol |
Only one small problem there. Any idea what oil fired power stations run on to generate electricity? As for coal - guess where most of the coal comes from used in coal fired power stations? Abroad. And guess how it get's here? In oil powered ships. And from port to power station - trains. Plenty of trains still make that diesel noise. And seeing as our present generating capacity can't me our present need, we import electic power from France . . . and guess what'll happen if we need more power for electric vehicles . . . at the same time as France will be needing extra power . . . the price will go up. Solar power - hm - works in sunny countries (get out into the sticks in Spain and admire the acres of solar panels) but here . . .? Wind power - tiny generating capacity - never mind they now all need shipping in from around the world. And think of all the problems getting permissions. Nuclear - France has gone for it. But like wind power - think NIMBYs - it's spoil the view/make a noise/dangerous. It's a problem, but making everything electric isn't too good an answer at the moment. If you stop and look around you, there's more than you imagine dependant on oil, not just transport - from clothing, plastics to electrical goods, there's a lot in our lives using compounds derived from oil. My solution - push bike, wood fired heating (only releases the same co2 as it absorbed in growth - so no net change), turing unwanted lights out, (think of all those street lights, motorway lights?), TV turned OFF (not standby) . . . But then again - I read a study that sending one email with a 4.7mB attachment is the same as boiling one kettle over 17 times! All to do with all the gear involved in keeping the net up and running - so I wonder what this posting on this site costs? Maybe we need to turn the net off too? Bri |
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| grandson |
In my opinion the only real alternative at the moment is Nuclear. It emits no CO2 and is very efficient at producing electricity. Although the waste has to be buried and not too many people are fond of living within 100 miles of one let alone on their doorstep. Maybe Eurasian power grid with massive power stations built in places far away from civilisation (a NIMBY's dream)? The synthetic hydrogen based petrol being developed by British scientists looks hopeful, but like electricity I don't think the hydrogen dream will flourish, especially whilst there is still oil to flog. |
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| old_miner |
Petrol is a hydrogen-carbon compound. Hydrogen on its own can be used as a fuel, but there are storage problems to be resolved, but it can then fuel internal combustion engines - exhaust water - or fuel cells - exhaust water. Nuclear fission power generation is getting smarter and smaller so does have a future. In fact a nice compact automatic nuclesr power station would fit nicely on the site for the proposed wasted processor. Lots of mini nuclear stations would get rid of the national grid overground eyesores. We would still need a grid but it would be more for balancing and control so the cables could be underground and out of site. Of course the long term goal is nuclear fusion. Probably a couple of generations away, but it will come. |
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events sale / wanted general have your say looking for.. skippy greengrass |
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