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victor
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15/01/2016 : 10:53:10      reply with quote


Some members of the council know where the new school is most likely to be, and should let homeowners in that area know so they can object or move home like mallinson has done. Also when is the council going to tell the people of Silsden that they have put thousands of pounds collected in precept to one side for the Wesley place project.
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15/01/2016 : 12:11:13      reply with quote


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Not much of a secret if you know.Someone told me about 40 years ago where the new school would be built, up where Mallinson used to live.I think I should get planning permission for a tuck shop now because when the pans are announced there will be no chance with the new rules. I am sure all will be revealed when the accounts are released
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15/01/2016 : 13:20:18      reply with quote


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Yes gazer when we bought a house in Airevill cres in 1979 we knew about the possibility of a school in the rugby field, but not everyone knows. If you are referring to the Wesley place building when you say accounts, in last years accounts £5000 was set aside for the project I wonder how much this year.
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15/01/2016 : 14:54:40      reply with quote


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Well at least you are asking questions. I would want more information before im convinced of the project.If the site can be bought as a community asset for a quid it would be a good start.Although buying the site is a sham as both buildings were bought by Silsden Urban District Council, paid for out of Silsden rates.Silsden..the Town that keeps buying the same asset!
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15/01/2016 : 15:41:55      reply with quote


Yes gazzer even though Peter try's to convince me I am still not sure it is a good idea. Groups who use the Town hall, Methodist and St James rooms and the sports club will move to the new building if it costs less to rent. Even though the intention is not to poach it will happen.
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15/01/2016 : 15:58:46      reply with quote


Its right to look at all options though with Silsden about to double in size because as they say when its gone its gone with all the other civic buildings
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17/01/2016 : 11:44:07      reply with quote


Sadly If only SUDC had not given away all of the property in Silsden that it owned, back in 1974 we would not now be in this position, of loosing what we once owned.
Victor all the Town council a/c are open for the public to see, unlike most of the the companies who are making a killing by building houses.
Have you been to a Town Council meeting?
If you are so interested in the well being of Silsden why don't you apply for the vacant seat on the Town Council?
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victor
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17/01/2016 : 12:21:37      reply with quote


Hector my political views are so far from some members of the council that it would be a constant battle otherwise I would put myself up for election. I have found that some on the council are not easy to talk to, and some like Skippy and Adrian are ok and listen to your point of view even if they don't agree with it.
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17/01/2016 : 14:25:47      reply with quote


Hector! I would have thought that to be on STC your political views should not count as you should be working for the good of the community, and not a case of them and us..
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17/01/2016 : 14:57:00      reply with quote


How does one apply for this vacant seat on STC
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gazzer
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17/01/2016 : 15:34:19      reply with quote


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Sadly If only SUDC had not given away all of the property in Silsden that it owned, back in 1974 we would not now be in this position, of loosing what we once owned.
Victor all the Town council a/c are open for the public to see, unlike most of the the companies who are making a killing by building houses.
Have you been to a Town Council meeting?
If you are so interested in the well being of Silsden why don't you apply for the vacant seat on the Town Council?
SUDC didnt give it away it was absorbed by Bradford on re-organization of local government. Just think of all the assets Silsden had like council houses,town hall,public toilets(inc the gents on the canal bridge),land,council yard(where houses just built on Pennine playgrounds land)Council offices on Wesley Place, and many other assets.
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victor
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17/01/2016 : 16:19:41      reply with quote


weelaman123 if you are a Labour supporter or don't permanently criticise Bradford council then I don't think you would be welcomed onto the council.
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17/01/2016 : 16:59:41      reply with quote


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weelaman123 if you are a Labour supporter or don't permanently criticise Bradford council then I don't think you would be welcomed onto the council.
Quick question.Do you think Silsden gets a fair deal from Bradford Council?
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17/01/2016 : 17:42:13      reply with quote


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weelaman123 if you are a Labour supporter or don't permanently criticise Bradford council then I don't think you would be welcomed onto the council.
That is so not true. I suggest you go to a council meeting and find out. It should be the first step if you want to join STC anyway.

From what I've seen of STC workings all the members of the council have Silsden interests at heart. Sometimes it's not always possible, or practical, to do the things we would all like to see, the takeover of the public toilets being a good example. I see Andrew Mallinson is championing this cause at the moment and promising all sorts of things.... but the conditions which would be required to reopen the toilets and the cost makes this a non starter... lots of publicity words from Councillor Mallinson who would know better if he bothered to attend an STC meeting and live in the Ward.
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17/01/2016 : 17:45:17      reply with quote


gazer I don't really know, but to me living in Silsden is a pleasure and if I had to live in some parts of Bradford or Keighley I don't think I would survive. I am happy to pay more than them in council tax for living in Silsden.
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17/01/2016 : 20:12:18      reply with quote


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in last thursdays craven hearld there is a letter in from a mr bailey up waterside,saying silsden is slowly dying no banks no toilets empty shops all over town and we could loose the libuary etc,finishes with if we could turn the clock back what a great place silsden could be again and i have to agree,,maybe someone with the knowledge could copy it on to here..and a nice picture of the working canal boats in silsden in 1928,also a picture and article of lily pitt and the petition to open the public toilets again some very interesting reading.
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17/01/2016 : 20:14:30      reply with quote


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gazer I don't really know, but to me living in Silsden is a pleasure and if I had to live in some parts of Bradford or Keighley I don't think I would survive. I am happy to pay more than them in council tax for living in Silsden.
With the Council Tax system living in a nice area, meaning property prices are higher, thus council tax is generally higher sort of works. But where its not fair is at the bottom of the scale.Someone in the cheapest tax band in Silsden pays the same as the cheapest in other areas of Bradford who get better services. The only fair way is for a universal service throughout the district.
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17/01/2016 : 22:18:27      reply with quote


gazzer, if you are correct?, then how come Addingham kept all there property, and it was not given to Bradford?
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17/01/2016 : 22:21:16      reply with quote


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Hector my political views are so far from some members of the council that it would be a constant battle otherwise I would put myself up for election. I have found that some on the council are not easy to talk to, and some like Skippy and Adrian are ok and listen to your point of view even if they don't agree with it.
Victor If you actually went to the Town Council meetings you would know the councillors are none Political they are all independent, they are there for the Town and it's people.
As Peter says sadly they all too often can't do all they would like mainly because of Bradford's interference.
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17/01/2016 : 22:31:14      reply with quote


All of this whinging about Bradford does not mention how we arrived at this situation. Well, it came about because people whinged about paying taxes, particularly the rates. As these were under local control the Stalinists at the centre saw the opportunity to get control of local government. Obviously something had to left locally otherwise even the whingers might notice. Well now they are noticing as it is those local services that are taking the hits. The solution is to return real control to local people, including the right to raise revenue locally. I am not sure how high Silsden town council could go with the precept. They do not seam prepared to increase it to pay for local toilets and the like. I do not know if its because they cannot or won't. Simply you get what you pay and vote for. People are not prepared to pay and keep voting in governments that centralize more and more. Your choice.
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17/01/2016 : 22:33:55      reply with quote


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gazzer, if you are correct?, then how come Addingham kept all there property, and it was not given to Bradford?
What did Addingham keep?. In fact Addingham did not have its own council as it was part of Ilkley Urban District Council and much of Addingham felt the same about Ilkley as I do about Bradford. For instance during the depression of the 1930's Addingham Parish Council pleaded with Ilkley UDC to employ unemployed Addingham men for any work carried out in Addingham.
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