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Topic : Now where IS that fire engine? |
| Peter
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23/10/2008 : 08:05:32
Posted on behalf of a resident of Craven Avenue. The pictures were taken on 22 Oct 2008 at about 5pm

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| Bob T
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23/10/2008 : 09:59:37
Ah a football match Craven avenue united must have been at home you know what them footballers are like , lazy bast*rds wont walk anywhere i dont think a letter to Lotus Construction will do any good this time |
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| Peter
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23/10/2008 : 10:03:15
This problem is caused by the Toyota Garage |
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| Shazza
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23/10/2008 : 11:32:58
I thinks it's just your perception failing that, i'm sure the firemen will have plenty of time to go up Daisy Hill. Let's just hope the fire's not at the back of the Toyota garage, that would be inconvienant for them. |
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| grandad
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23/10/2008 : 16:44:14
Peter, don't worry about the fire engine getting through, I well remember a similar problem on kent avenue being discussed in a parish council meeting years ago, one councillor said that if there was a fire the engine would not be able to get through, another councillor who at that time was a full time fireman serving at keighley replied, "Oh yes we would get through! we would sort out the insurance claims for the obstructing cars if there were any, but we would get through." |
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| BMWR1100SS
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23/10/2008 : 17:04:50
they should not have to worry about insurance claims,if cars are going to park illegally then they should pay the penalty.... |
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| pumbajunior
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23/10/2008 : 17:29:12
as far as im aware fire engines can push cars out of the way in an emergency by law thats what ive heard anyway |
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| alan
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23/10/2008 : 18:09:31
Perhaps the PCSO's should issue some tickets! Isn't that what we have police for to sort out these nuisances?
I am sure if anyone asked in the town council at the public adjournment for a letter to the garage it would be done, as it was to Lotus! |
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| Bob T
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23/10/2008 : 20:02:47
Pumba i was a fulltime fireman for 30 years and that was never the case ,wot we had to do was drop crew members off and they used to bounce the offending cars out of the way no way could you just drive into them |
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| Shazza
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23/10/2008 : 20:28:44
quote posted by alan
Perhaps the PCSO's should issue some tickets! Isn't that what we have police for to sort out these nuisances?
They aren't going to that up there when since they've had permission to do it outside school, we've seen nothing of them. What we have seen more of though is cars parking on the pavement |
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| Herself
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23/10/2008 : 21:01:45
Just a thought, but did the person taking the pictures ring the police at that time?
They might well have got at ticket.
And then the parking in that area watched.
Looks like only the latter can be done now. |
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| pumbajunior
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24/10/2008 : 05:27:55
quote posted by Bob T
Pumba i was a fulltime fireman for 30 years and that was never the case ,wot we had to do was drop crew members off and they used to bounce the offending cars out of the way no way could you just drive into them ok im wrong wasnt too sure but that is what i was told years ago thought you would know with previous profession |
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| Grandparent
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24/10/2008 : 08:51:21
Perhaps the person taking the photographs wanted to add to the general discussion re- pavement parking and hopefully spur the authorities' into realizing that Silsden has traffic problems.
Also aware that the police would have more to do than dispatch the cavalry in an instant, but might decide to watch the area. |
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| Herself
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24/10/2008 : 22:17:36
When a problem is highlighted to the police, they do take it on board and they do deal with the problem. My point was that the police may have been in another area in Silsden and if not dealing with an urgent matter they would have came and the cars would have got a ticket. I do agree that we should all point out problems to the police so they can deal with it, and I am in no way having a go at you Grandparent, BUT, we don't sit at home with a rash, take a pic of it, then tell everyone that the Doctor has done nothing about it, when we haven't told the Doctor. Lets all try working WITH the police and we might then make a difference. |
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| skippy
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24/10/2008 : 22:35:11
herself do you work in the home office? as all you seem to do is stick up for the police. if you live here in cobbydale see the problems as the people on the street see them and act. if you cant may i polietly ask that you dont comment, thank you. |
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| alan
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25/10/2008 : 08:54:59
I get a little fed up with the police attitude at times. I am paid to do my job and to perform for the company, if I don't I get sacked, simple! I don't expect the general public to walk in off the streets and do my job for me.
We all pay our rates whatever, we pay for a police service, they should be on the streets sorting the issues, whether it be parking or bank robbers! I am (an have) help in the past BUT I should not have to be their eyes and ears! My message is get your fingers out and sort the issues out, where it be nuisance crime or major crime that's what you are there for! |
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| Herself
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26/10/2008 : 18:53:13
Skippy, I am sorry, but I was under the impression I was in the General Forum where the only one to stop me is Peter. And with Remembrance Sunday comming up, and providing I am not offensive to anyone. I was under the impression that many people died to give me the freedom to voice my opinion. Please do accept my apology in the manner in which it is intended!!. |
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| Herself
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26/10/2008 : 19:34:13
Hi Alan, I understand why you and the rest of us get so annoyed about this and the other problems we have here in Silsden. In June I looked over the minutes of the A. T. Meeting for the past twenty years. And every year the same subject comes up. Parking. And I personaly can only see three solutions.
We get more police, which I don't think is going to happen.
We continue to complain, shout and kick up a stink, but, according to the Annual Town minutes hasn't changed a thing in twenty years.
Or we try a different approach, and utilise the Police we do have for our benifit.I am not suggesting we do their job for them. However, to me it makes more sense if, when copper is walking about one street and someone who sees a problem in another area reports it ( there and then), instead of just wandering around the copper can come an deal with it.
Silsden is OUR town and I strongly believe it is up to US to make it the place we want it to be. Silsen folk have never been backwards at comming forwards,and if we ALL do a bit more at looking after our old folk, our neighbours, guide our younsters and utilise the sevices we do have we can make a big difference. No one else is going to do it for us.
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| alan
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26/10/2008 : 20:06:44
IF they patrolled the streets properly people WOULD tell them the issues and they would get local intelligence. Like they USED to do!
I remember Superintendant Sunderland telling the TC his high and mighty story that he was going to build the respect for the police once again. Seemed to miss the outcome of that one!
When our company builds for a client we don't expect the client to tell us if we have a problem. We are professionals.
The police are supposed to professionals, so do the job that we pay for! We pay well over £300k per year in this town, and what do we get for our money? I'll leave you to answer that one. |
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| Herself
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26/10/2008 : 21:42:49
Like I said Alan,records show twenty years of covering the same ground. I don't see any point in it. James Dyson kept trying new ideas until he won. And I know for a fact that the police were on Craven Ave. after dark a few nights prior to the pic being taken, a lady in one of houses showed me a letter and said " she was in the living room and didn't she them but it was good to know they were about". I am not defending the Police but I will point out that they are more active in Silsden now that I have ever seen them and that is only the activity I have proof of. I speak as I find.
Now I said my piece on this particular point and respectable take on board your views. So sweet dreams. |
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| Fred
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27/10/2008 : 07:12:37
That's useful!
The police go round to Craven Avenue when the Toyota garage is closed, the garage have put all their cars away and the employees have gone home.
They go to Keighley Road on a Sunday when there isn't a football match on.
But it is nice to see more of a police presence on our streets. Perhaps it is time to talk to the people and find out what's going on. |
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| alan
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27/10/2008 : 08:38:14
quote posted by Herself
Like I said Alan,records show twenty years of covering the same ground. I don't see any point in it. James Dyson kept trying new ideas until he won. And I know for a fact that the police were on Craven Ave. after dark a few nights prior to the pic being taken, a lady in one of houses showed me a letter and said " she was in the living room and didn't she them but it was good to know they were about". I am not defending the Police but I will point out that they are more active in Silsden now that I have ever seen them and that is only the activity I have proof of. I speak as I find.
Now I said my piece on this particular point and respectable take on board your views. So sweet dreams. I am amazed at your post, they have increased their presence part because we are constantly on at them, all they've got to do now is their job!
I'd be fascinated to learn your insight as to how we are going to achieve that! Perhaps you'd also like to answer whether Silsden ratepayers get value for money out of the police? |
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| skippy
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27/10/2008 : 16:07:04
herself i am nottrying to ban you. as you say peter ie the boss.what i am saying is see it as the man/woman in the street see;s it and act. also i hope you are not late to lay the wreath on 9th nov like you were last year. |
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| Seeallhearall
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28/10/2008 : 19:43:49
I can't believe how pathetic some of you sound making out that the police don't do anything. Parking is so petty to complain about. Im sure many of you have parked illegaly before and will probably again and yet you seem to think that it is the worlds biggest problem, its very very sad. The police are there to help the community not ticket every car that is 'illegaly' parked the word discretion comes to mind! |
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| dogcatcher
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28/10/2008 : 21:15:54
that put u all in your place |
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| gazzer
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28/10/2008 : 23:33:40
quote posted by Seeallhearall
The police are there to help the community not ticket every car that is 'illegaly' parked the word discretion comes to mind! Well said |
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| alan
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31/10/2008 : 23:30:25
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quote posted by Seeallhearall
The police are there to help the community not ticket every car that is 'illegaly' parked the word discretion comes to mind! Well said Correct, one hundred percent. Nobody expects them to ticket every car BUT they should be doing their job in a professional manner and preventing not prosecuting nuisance crime and offences! Or else what is the point of having them, particularly the PCSO's?
I am amazed that "Seeallhearall" thinks they are doing their job he/she must be the only one in the UK who does, and not have a vested interest!!! Or maybe they have? |
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| grandad
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02/11/2008 : 20:14:36
Alan, It must be very hard to be humble when you are perfect in every way! as we all know nobody in the building trade ever does anything wrong, Do they? |
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| alan
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02/11/2008 : 20:25:51
Far from it 'grandad' but we don't expect others to do our job for us or to get paid for work we don't do!
The honest ones that is 
Can you honestly say we get value for money in Silsden? |
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