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Topic : No Road Tax |
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| Bob T |
On my travels around Silsden this week i have noticed 3 cars and one motorcyle that have been clamped for having no road tax .About time the law caught up with these law breakers ,wot do you think ? has anybody got any sympathy with these people |
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| alan |
Absolutely none, think they should be crushed NOT clamped! |
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| alan |
Wonder how many clamps they'd need if that was Bradford?  |
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| sewerrat |
I would like to point out it was my bike that was clamped despite having a SORN declaration. Apparently they got 17 vehicles in this area alone on monday. The cowboys that did it want £260 to release the clamp rising to £360 after 24 hours plus £21 per day storage at blackburn vehicle pound. Thats around £600+ After 14 days if i don't pay it will be crushed. As a single parent i simply don't have this kind of money. Its not as if i was riding it or anything, the battery was off and it was parked up for the winter. Not everyone without roadtax is a criminal. |
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| alan |
Makes interesting reading - www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/UntaxedVehicle/DG_4022072 |
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| sewerrat |
And your point is....? So i was in the wrong, does that justify the extortionate fees? Does that give people the right to take your property. apparently so. People have done a lot worse things than me and just get a slap on the wrist. All I'm saying is the punishment should fit the crime. Incidently have you ever tried to get a large bike up 3 steps into a garden? That is why it was still on the road. |
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| alan |
The point is wasn't having a go at you. But you need to read the site. The £100 is for release, and the £160 a surety till you get it taxed. So it's actually more than you are quoting. I have bikes on SORN and can assure you the DVLA don't take prisoners or have any sympathy, as I found out when I sold a car a couple of years ago and the dealer cashed in the tax. They came after me for it not being taxed! |
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| pumbajunior |
quoteAnd your point is....? So i was in the wrong, does that justify the extortionate fees? Does that give people the right to take your property. apparently so. People have done a lot worse things than me and just get a slap on the wrist. All I'm saying is the punishment should fit the crime. Incidently have you ever tried to get a large bike up 3 steps into a garden? That is why it was still on the road. as far as im aware if you have declared a sorn it should be off the road regardless of how hard it is to get it off the road the punishment has to be harsh or there would be no deterant i do disagree with clamping though |
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| skippy |
stump up or be crushed should be the slogan. but they should actually crush the vehicles not put them in the auction(as they sometimes do)if you were to be hit by a vehicle unlicensed it would more than likely be uninsured so then what do you do? |
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| sewerrat |
The bike will be crushed as the fines are more than the bikes worth. And for your information I have got insurance unlike a lot of people whose fines are considerably less than these clamping fees. Read the court cases in the KN. I wonder how much of the fees the DVLA actually get if any. |
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| jacktlad |
The reason most cars have no tax disc is that they are not insured. Often as their drivers have no license. If your car is in an accident with one it is you that have to bare all the costs. In general I disagree with clamping but in this case I strongly support it. |
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| wahiba |
It is a fact of life that the 'hunter' will go for the easiest kill. Clamping is a form of hunting so the clamper is going to look for the easiest prey. Not displaying a road tax disc makes one easy prey. As someone pointed out, cyclists and pedestrians are on the road by right. Motorists are on the road by license. No license and your are a law breaker, i.e. a criminal. |
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| coby1 |
besides no tax cars with only one headlight working must start to be done when some cars come towards you and the offside lights are out they look bikes comeing {off subject} |
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| andy_landy |
quoteThe bike will be crushed as the fines are more than the bikes worth. And for your information I have got insurance unlike a lot of people whose fines are considerably less than these clamping fees. Read the court cases in the KN. I wonder how much of the fees the DVLA actually get if any. Your insurance will not cover you if you park a SORN vehicle on a public road as it's illegal. Therefore it won't cover a third party (such as a child or a legal road user) if they have an accident because your bike is on the road when it shouldn't. What you are doing is wrong and to be honest clamping is not good enough but at least it's good to see something is happening. |
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| Bob T |
Hi sewerrat ,i notice that the bike has gone whats happened to it did you manage to move it or did it get crushed |
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| Baldybogey |
quote quoteThe bike will be crushed as the fines are more than the bikes worth. And for your information I have got insurance unlike a lot of people whose fines are considerably less than these clamping fees. Read the court cases in the KN. I wonder how much of the fees the DVLA actually get if any. Your insurance will not cover you if you park a SORN vehicle on a public road as it's illegal. Therefore it won't cover a third party (such as a child or a legal road user) if they have an accident because your bike is on the road when it shouldn't. What you are doing is wrong and to be honest clamping is not good enough but at least it's good to see something is happening. Sorry... but this comment is rubbish. Any accident with this parked vehicle would make this vehicle the third party. Sewerrat would be able to claim against the other parties insurance as a parked vehicle can not cause an accident due to its total lack of movement…. |
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| greengrass |
Bullshit |
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| Baldybogey |
quoteBullshit what is!! |
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| greengrass |
quote quoteBullshit what is!! It is what comes out off the rear end off the bulls bum,it often has big smelly air gaps which contain word like the last statement did. |
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| Baldybogey |
Well in that case you need to explain how a stationary vehichle can cause an accident then I might accept your comment.... |
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| coby1 |
park your car on the the brdge pup not on view to trafic going out of silsden |
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| jonno |
Then it would obviously be the fault of the driver of the moving vehicle for not anticipating an obstruction that he couldn't see over the hump of the bridge. Don't you slow down just before you go over the hump in case traffic is stopped for the zebra crossing or some other reason? The same principle applies to blind corners. |
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| pumbajunior |
wrong its the fault of the parked car which is why they have been ticketed in the past this is also why its illegal to park on road ends not that many adhere to this |
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| Baldybogey |
A car parked in this particular spot is a seperate offence to having no tax. But it's offence is being parked in the wrong place, other road users need to take greater care in this situation and are themselves to blame for any accidents they cause. |
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| pumbajunior |
i was refering to your post above mine which had nothing to do with not being taxed though i do realise both are posts were off topic |
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| jonno |
Wrong Pumba, if you run into an obstruction it's your fault, even if it shouldn't have been there. It can't move of it's own accord, you however can slow down and stop if needed. You are in control of the vehicle so you are responsible. My mate ran into the back of a road roller round a blind corner on a narrow road, he wasn't expecting it but it was still his fault for going round a blind corner too fast to stop for an unexpected obstruction. |
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| alan |
I thought that this thread was about not paying road tax and getting clamped?  |
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| greengrass |
No parking on a hump back bridge they are breaking the law give em all a ticket  |
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| Bob T |
Getting back on thread ,never got a reply from sewerrat re wot happened to her bike |
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| wahiba |
"I thought that this thread was about not paying road tax and getting clamped?" It is, but any vehicle parked on the highway is causing an obstruction. If you run into an obstruction one must be able to argue that if it was not obstructing ones free passage on the highway then one would not have run into it. Of course one would also need to justify why avoidance was not possible - like a child running across the road, a foggy night etc... An uninsured, untaxed vehicle parked on the road is offending at least three times, possibly more if no MOT and parts of the vehicle are not working. |
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events sale / wanted general have your say looking for.. skippy greengrass |
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