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Topic : Media's warped values |
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| grandad |
Whilst in no way wishing to diminish the pain and suffering being caused by the murder's of the five ladies in the news, I find it very sad that the media choose to ignore the fact that on average ten people are killed and hundreds injured on the roads; every day of the year. If the full horror of this daily carnage was trust into our homes day after day the outcry for something to be done about it would surely make the government change the way drivers are allowed to operate the lethal weapons that are the vehicles being used on our roads. I believe every driver should be subject of a continues assessment having to take a medical and retest at least ever five years, sooner if they are involved in a collision. |
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| wahiba |
I agree totally in respect of the media. But it was always thus. Not sure about the 'continuous assessment', medicals maybe. Re-assessment as a penalty is now in force and could maybe be extended. |
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| gazzer |
If you have less policemen out and about there are more crimes because the criminals know they have a good chance of getting away with it.You only have to look around on a Friday/Sat night.The same goes for the roads.A traffic policeman is generally a 6ft pole with a yellow box on the top.No cameras in North Yorks but you see drivers caught for allsorts.When was the last time you read a report of someone in West Yorks done for crossing double white lines?.Never because it doesnt happen.But it does in North Yorks. The West Yorkshire Safety Partnershipship is a one trick pony using speed cameras.Not surprising as its cheif isnt some traffic expert he is just a former BBC radio newsreader. Lets have more Traffic officers and stop ALL bad driving |
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| alan |
I agree "gazzer" you see lots more real policing in North Yorkshire without the speed cameras. Though they do use mobile cameras, I can guarantee I will see more people stopped in North Yorks than this area. Like the "numpty" who passed a line of us on the Settle by-pass over the white line and was promptly stopped. Makes you wonder what the West Yorks police spend their money on, or does it?  |
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| grandad |
Gazzer & Alan, How did you manage to turn a topic about the media making such a fuss about five deaths when they ignore ten everyday of the week; into a slanging match against the police? If the media publicised the real death toll taking place on our roads; the outcry about it, would make the government do something to improve the appalling standard of driving we have to put up with on the roads, it is nothing to do with the police enforcing good driving! Only good drivers should be allowed to be out on the roads. If the traffic police weren’t wasting so much time clearing up after the useless tossers that think they can drive anyway they like, then crash, possibly killing some innocent victim in the process, they would have more time to be out there looking for the bad drivers. Even when these incompetent persons are taken to court charged with causing death by dangerous driving, they only get a slap on the wrist from the magistrates, who probably is no better at driving than they are, so lets them off, so as not to set a precedence in case they are next to be charged. The reason North Yorkshire can spend more money on road policing is partly because they don’t have as much other crime, (check on the internet and compare the two), but also because in North Yorkshire there are a lot more motorcyclists killed, so the government give them more money specifically for road policing. |
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| alan |
Easy "grandad" years of practice changing the subject with just a tenuous link to suit myself Besides North Yorkshire don't have to waste millions policing the cities like West Yorkshire do! It's a pity that our political masters don't have the guts to tell us exactly what the money for policing goes on in this country now! Merry Christmas by the way "grandad" still think Silsden is the best little town in Yorkshire, with the best people, the best Christmas lights, and the best shops, and the scenery is damn good too! |
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| gazzer |
I object to the charge that I changed the subject.Your point was about deaths on roads.Quite how you linked that to Suffolk murders I dont know.However I only expressed a view as to how our roads should be policed to cut down on the daily toll of carnage on our roads. |
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| grandad |
Gazzer, try reading my first post again! My point was, that the media have dual standards when it comes to reporting deaths by any other means to the deaths on our roads. |
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| grandad |
Alan, what cities in North Yorkshire would that be? They do however spend thousands on a shower for their chief constable. Yes I totally agree with you about our lovely town. Merry Christmas to everyone!!!!!! |
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| alan |
That's the point "grandad" North Yorkshire doesn't have the "issues" with the cities that West Yorkshire does! |
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| grandad |
Alan, So if you admit the two are not similar then what is the point of comparing them? |
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| alan |
I just follow the thread "grandad"! I don't criticise the police on the beat, we have had some good ones over the years in Silsden, but those that sit in the offices and decide the policy! My criticism is where the money is spent in West Yorkshire by the police and the amount residents of this town contribute to others! I also don't think we have need to criticise the media as far as this town is concerned, we have had very good support from the local press. But the sad thing is that murders make headlines, day to day road deaths do not! That sells the papers! |
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| allie |
I am frankly staggered and dismayed at the ignorance shown towards the law Grandad, and one would hope you do not work for any business requiring knowledge of the law, because if you did you would know that the offence of causing death by dangerous driving is indictable only, i.e. can only be tried at a Crown Court by judge and jury, NOT by the magistracy which you so unkindly demean and deem as unfit to practice, when they have strict guidelines to adhere to and a limited use of power.As for having terrible driving skills, members of the magistracy have to report to the Lord Chancellor as well as the police for any driving convictions and as such are punished more severely, which tends to make them think about their driving more often than.....you perhaps??!! |
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| gazzer |
In the T&A it says the Police are having a crack down on bad drivers in Bradford and have already caught 3 people driving through red lights an 2 without insurance. This should be normal routine and the fact that its a "crackdown" shows that they are not doing their job all the time. Tonights paper also points out a sharp rise in deaths on the West Yorks roads in December.So the press are reporting deaths on roads. However this all proves my point.Using speed scameras as the main means of keeping our roads safe isnt working. ps Just like to point out my views of speed scameras are not because I have been caught because so far I havent. |
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| alan |
I remember when I was a spotty youth riding motorcycles and old bangers of cars it was a regular occurence to get stopped and checked, in fact it was the norm! We didn't have a chip on our shoulder about the police for doing this, we expected them too, it was their job! They didn't need to publicise it! Many is the time I've been stopped by a Ford Anglia Panda and had a rollicking for summat! Why doesn't this happen now? The one thing it gave me was a healthy respect for the police on the streets doing their job and taught me the best policy was polite submission. Because in all these years I've managed to avoid the points and endosements, even from the cameras! They publicise "crackdowns" and catch a few, but as a regular driver I see many offences committed every day. In fact getting bored in a line of traffic going through Colne a week or so ago I counted every motorist I saw driving the other way using a mobile phone, and came up with twelve! That was only from one end of Colne town centre to the other in the space of twenty minutes! So much for publicised crackdowns on the use of mobile phones! |
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