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chaz
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16/05/2007 : 14:35:52      reply with quote


HAS ANYBODY HAD A LOOK AT AMENDED PLANS BY TAYLOR WOODROW IT APPEARS THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PUT TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT PROPOSED ENTRANCE ON KEIGHLEY ROAD WILL THIS NOT CAUSE MAJOR BACKLOG OF TRAFFIC AT BUSY TIMES . THERE SEEMED TO BE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS OVER TEMPORARY LIGHTS ON RIVER BRIDGE ,IF THIS GETS PASSED THES WILL BE PERMANENT
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alan
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16/05/2007 : 15:43:39      reply with quote


What a really stupid idea!

I hope that everyone contacts their district councillors to pass on their opinions angry

See this site for their e-mail addresses!!!

I also believe there may be a further town meeting to discuss these plans!
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Peter
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16/05/2007 : 16:38:39      reply with quote


You can see the amended plans here:

www.planninginbradford.com/WAM/showCaseFile.do?appType=Planning&appNumber=06/05923/FUL

I must say this is a stupid idea when there are many more houses off Elliot Street and Howden Road trying to get onto the same road without the benefit of any traffic management. Why should 120 houses have the priority for getting onto Keighley Road without waiting? I could understand a proposal for a mini roundabout but not traffic lights. We must oppose this idea.
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ginjo
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16/05/2007 : 19:25:47      reply with quote


what are the town council proposing to do about this? would it not be a good idea for them to hold a public meeting to bring residents up to date.Of course they would have to make an effort to publisise such a meeting otherwise no-one will know about it, there is a big problem with communication in silsden.
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alan
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16/05/2007 : 19:53:32      reply with quote


Read previous posts "ginjo"!

What are you proposing to do? Put in an objection? Go to a town council meeting? Write to your district councillor? Arrange a meeting?

The town council can only make their comments like a resident does.
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wahiba
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16/05/2007 : 20:29:09      reply with quote


If they put some at the Elliot Street Howden road junction as well it makes sense.
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chaz
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17/05/2007 : 10:32:26      reply with quote


COULD THE DEVELOPERS BE HOPING NOBODY SAW AMENDED PLANS ACCORDING TO A LETTER SENT OUT BY BRADFORD COUNCIL YOU HAVE UNTIL 31st MAY TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. MAYBE YOU COULD DO IT IN YOUR CAR WHILE WAITING AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS!IF YOU READ THE SMALLPRINT AT THE SIDE OF THE PLAN IT STATES THESE PROPOSALS ARE SUBJECT TO A HIGWAY SURVEY ,THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT WHILE THE LIGHTS WERE ON THE BRIDGE.LAST SURVEY STATED SOMETHING LIKE 4 CARS PER MINUITE PASSING AT PEAK TIME PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING SO SLOW
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alan
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17/05/2007 : 10:43:35      reply with quote


When they did the last survey a couple of years ago for the flashing speed sign on Bolton Road I think it was found that something like 10,000 cars per day passed through Silsden.

I dread to think what chaos ANY traffic lights will cause in Silsden angry

My humble opinion is that the main source of traffic is those commuting from Wharfedale, perhaps we should put gates up at the Cringles to keep the rascals out! wink ;)
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Peter
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17/05/2007 : 13:00:32      reply with quote


You can make your objections known to the proposed traffic lights on Keighley Road happy :) online happy :)

You may find the following information useful:

Subject: PROPOSED TRAFFIC SIGNAL ACCESS ARRANGEMENT
Application No 06/05923/FUL
Sykes Lane, Silsden

then click www.bradford.gov.uk/contact_us/online_forms/application_comment_form_keighley.htm to put your views to the planning authority.

Traffic chaos angry, or do something about it NOW
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alan
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17/05/2007 : 13:37:31      reply with quote


Thanks for that Peter. It only takes five minutes to fill in the form.
It is very easy to cut and paste the info from Peters post.
There is NO EXCUSE why everyone shouldn't fill it in!
I guarantee the first day they switch these lights on you WILL be sat in the queue much longer than it takles to complete the form!!!angryangryangryangryangry
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alan
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17/05/2007 : 14:35:06      reply with quote


There is a Silsden Town Council planning meeting tonight at 7.30pm (17th May).

Not sure if Sykes Lane will be on the agenda, but I am sure one of the district councillors will be there.

Why not attend and make your feelings known!
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coby1
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17/05/2007 : 20:18:01      reply with quote


Let the town coucil fight our corner on this one. Chris Atkinson will love to get his teath into these plans because the shcools are not big enough the health care will not be big enough.Silsden is a village not a profit makeing site for all builders to prossper from. I recall yeare ago when the church was demolished in Mill Banks Tunercliffs timber yard wanted to put a road through Mill Banks and there was something in the deeds of the the land that prevented any sort of buildings or road and the the council rejected the plans.
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Saskatoon Berry
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17/05/2007 : 21:36:15      reply with quote


Have just completed the Council form to object to this proposal - yes, only takes a few minutes. This proposal must also be seen in terms of potential impact on the Elliot St and Howden Rd junction which is a nightmare at peak times. Hope the Town Council shows it's teeth!angryangryangry
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chaz
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18/05/2007 : 11:00:42      reply with quote


NOTE AT SIDE OF PLANS FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS READS "THIS PLAN REPRESENTS AN INDICATIVE HIGHWAY LAYOUT ONLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PLANNING APPLICATION " DOES THIS MEAN THAT IF BRADFORD PASS THESE PLANS THE DEVELOPER CAN CHANGE THEM AFTER WITHOUT PUBLIC BEING CONSULTED ? I`M NOT A DEVELOPER OR POLITICIAN BUT THAT`S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME
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MATTSKI
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18/05/2007 : 11:10:56      reply with quote


said my bit too to the council, due to work constaints i cannot attend council meetings, this site is an excellent way of finding out these sort of proposals.

keep up the good work
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alan
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18/05/2007 : 11:54:43      reply with quote


So "coby1" does that mean you are not going to bother filling in the form?
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alan
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18/05/2007 : 12:13:01      reply with quote


Here is a post by the town clerk on a past planning application, I would suggest that before everyone thinks that Chris Atkinson or whoever is going to come charging in on their white horse for the town council that they carefully read it!

We are not a planning authority and only have the same say as individuals in planning matters. Bradford Council are the planning authority and decision will be taken by their planning panel. The Office which covers the Silsden area is the Keighley planning office based in the Town Hall in Keighley, again this is the distrcit authority and not Keighley Town Council as was suggested when this application came in before.
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chaz
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18/05/2007 : 14:00:51      reply with quote


it doesn`t matter what sort of traffic control they put at that entrance it will cause backlog if by chance this application doesn`t get passed they will ammend it again and probably propose a silly mini roundabout.what ever the outcome eventually it will get passed and the outcome will be the same QUEING TRAFFIC
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Sam
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18/05/2007 : 14:40:24      reply with quote


People seem to be missing the reason for the proposed traffic lights, and that is the proposed development of 122 houses around Sykes Lane. Get that stopped and you wont have to worry about the traffic lights.
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chaz
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18/05/2007 : 15:15:27      reply with quote


QUITE AGREE NOBODY SHOWED ANY INTEREST WHEN I PUT AMMENDED PLANS SYKES LANE AS SOON AS I POSTED THAT ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS WAS TRAFFIC LIGHTS EVERYBODY TOOK NOTICE, LIKE 122 NEW HOUSES WONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM I THINK YOU`LL FIND IT WILL REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY PUT AT THE ACCESS
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jonno
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18/05/2007 : 15:51:18      reply with quote


Just posted my objection. If anyone wants help wording their objection please post here, I'm sure we can come up with something between us that we can all use.
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wahiba
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19/05/2007 : 12:34:33      reply with quote


Thanks for the links. I have made my proposals.
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carliol
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19/05/2007 : 21:33:53      reply with quote


Traffic lights

maybe the lights are a good idea, and the 122 houses as well. We need more people and prosperity in Silsden. It may mean we can keep our post office, expand the primary school, help our local tradespeople, and have a bit more clout so our rubbish roads are improved.It is crazy to compare the proposed lights with the recent ones at the bridge, that was a different set of circumstances altogether.
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chaz
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20/05/2007 : 09:28:35      reply with quote


why would traffic lights more housing and expansion give us more clout
it would just open the door for more development i was born and brought up in silsden i`ve seen it change for the worse over the years so much so that i don`t want to bring my kids up here
i think your views will be in the minority
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ted
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20/05/2007 : 13:54:43      reply with quote


think about how the main street is congested at peak times, add another 120 houses and we're talking chaos. no to the traffic lights and no the housing
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wahiba
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20/05/2007 : 15:49:38      reply with quote


Carliol is basically right. Having moved to Silsden from the outskirts of Leeds believe me there is a long way to go before it gets that bad. In fact, it is not really possible to enlarge Silsden to much, unless houses are built on stilts near to the river!
I suppose they could go along the canal and join up with Keighley, but I think that option might be some way off.
As for the Kirgate problem. A wall across Kirgate at the duck pond would make it local access only. Through traffic would be sent around the houses, which might put a few of them off.
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carliol
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20/05/2007 : 20:09:33      reply with quote


the main reason that there is a traffic problem in Silsden is the parking outside the post office area. Traffic builds up in bunches and spreads both ways. I know the theory is that it slows down traffic for safety reasons, but there are 3 pedestrian crossings in 150 yards that can do this. Traffic is all about "flow", and the main street parking causes havoc which will only get worse. The bridge repairs were about strengthening the bridge for more lorries coming thru Silsden, but they cannot negotiate the parked vehicles outside the post office etc. so it will get worse. Traffic from new houses will filter in to the main street. I do agree that there is a limit to the number of houses which can be built, but there are still brown field sites to be used up, all of which will improve the town and bring prosperity. I have only lived in Silsden for 3 years, and think it is a great place to be, but it could be even better with some positive thinking.
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wahiba
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21/05/2007 : 08:04:15      reply with quote


I am not happy about the parking in Kirgate. However, it gives access to the post office and two pharmacies and from casual observation is not overtly abused. People seem to be coming and going most of the time which suggests parking long enough for the need.

A one way system would help, it would also reduce the problem caused by funeral corteges waiting to leave the church.

The real traffic problems are casued by Wharfedale to Airedale traffic. Only a bypass would solve that. But how and where?
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23/05/2007 : 08:31:12      reply with quote


I have let the council know of my objections. I live very close to the site of the traffic lights, the traffic is bad enough normally, and it really was stupidly inconvenient when the traffic lights were down at the bridge. I also worry about the impact on parking, I can very rarely park outisde my own house and the fact that this is potentially removing the parking in this area is going to have a huge affect, as I need easy and fast access to my car 24/7 because of my job. Plus qeuing traffic means extra noise, smell and fumes coming into my house. And I do not have the money or indeed, see why I should have to move house to avoid the problems this will bring.

I also put objections in along the same lines for the residential development on Sykes Lane. Can Silsden stand anymore residents without a bypass, seems unlikely to me.
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wahiba
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24/05/2007 : 08:09:53      reply with quote


Cars parked on through traffic roads are the main cause of traffic congestion.

It would make more sense to make all roads no parking and then mark the areas where parking is allowed. Roads are for travelling on, not to provide parking spaces outside peoples houses.

I know that suggesting restrictions on cars probably upsets the great car god and his main acolyte on earth JC (Jeremt Clarkson - note the initials though) but those of us who follow the great god bus have no sympathy.
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chaz
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24/05/2007 : 15:12:12      reply with quote


maybe you will have sympathy when your stuck on the bus waiting at the traffic lights
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wahiba
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25/05/2007 : 08:05:11      reply with quote


I doubt it. angryAt the present time I get stuck in a waiting bus becasue of cars parked at the side of the road. Especially the bit from the canal bridge down to the football ground. Double yellow line the lot, on both sides.
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chaz
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27/05/2007 : 21:36:24      reply with quote


WHAT MAKES ME THINK WAHIBA DOESN`T OWN A CAR
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Fred
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27/05/2007 : 23:29:16      reply with quote


What yellow paint on the side of the road ..... Bradmet must have run out of paint.....AGAIN!
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wahiba
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29/05/2007 : 17:34:13      reply with quote


"WHAT MAKES ME THINK WAHIBA DOESN`T OWN A CAR"

The fact you do not know me. I do own a car, and a motorcycle. However I have long realised that we are letting the car run our lives.

One reason in moving to Silsden was the reasonble public transport. It is still pretty good. Buses would get around better if it was not for all the people using the road as a car park.

Roads are for travelling on NOT PARKING ON

I everyone had to park their vehicle off the road it would certainly put a different perspective on transportation.

We do not like dogs crapping on footpaths so why should we allow cars to clog up the roads.


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chaz
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30/05/2007 : 13:12:49      reply with quote


BUILD MORE HOUSES CREATE MORE COMMUTERS CREATE MORE TRAFFIC
PEOPLE MIGHT USE THE TRAIN BUT HOW DO THEY GET TO THE STATION, BY THE LOOK OF THE CAR PARK AND THE CARS PARKED ON THE ROAD I WOULD THINK THE MAJORITY OF THEM DRIVE THERE
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