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| skippy |
injure the dignity and self-respect of. that is what the dictionary says. how can a person be humiliated if no one can here or see what is said or happens? only by putting a storey in the press does anybody know what happens. therefore sureley this is self humiliation. |
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| pednjulie |
confusing |
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| dexter |
confucius? |
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| ginjo |
looking at the comments on the yorkshire post article people did hear and see what was said, and it would seem from what has been said and from research I have done,the chairman, deputy mayor and clerk were wrong to do what they did, I think maybe its them that should be feeling humiliated |
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| skippy |
ginjo were you there? as any sane person knows you dont belive whats printed in papers  or do you |
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| localman |
looking forward to see how the keighley news report it if they do report it? but i think david Samuels will make sure they do |
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| ofcumdem1 |
What a disgrace to democracy all involved are, did they ask the public is this what they want and is this an "isolated" incident. Unfortunately the answer is no and all involved should be called to book for once again misusing their official positions and power. Many honest good men defended democracy for Britain only for our disgraceful town councillors to decide their own form of democracy. Animal farm springs to mind with napoleon as mayor. |
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| ginjo |
no skippy I wasn't there but as I understand it, Mr Rowley was asked to leave before the meeting even started, according to the rules of parish council, the public and press are entitled to attend any meeting of the council or comittee unless excluded by formal resolution in relation to any matter of business.The public and press can be excluded if there is confidential business or some other good reason and the exclusion has to be voted by the majority of councillors present and the reason stated in the motion and in the minutes, it is important to do this. this info was taken from parish council regulations. From reading the comments made in the yorkshire post, some posted by people who saw what happened, this was not the case, Mr Rowley was asked to leave before the meeting started so how could there have been a vote? |
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| jonno |
I smell bullsh*t being spread here. Regardless of what I personally think about Mr Rowley being parachuted in as the Tory candidate the Town Council have acted very badly here and need to apologise and acknowledge their disgraceful actions. Asking Mr Rowley to leave because he isn't on the electoral roll for Silsden is utter crap. There is no requirement for a member of the public to be on the electoral roll to be able to attend Town Council meetings. What if a member of the press, eg the KN, came to report on what was happening? Would you try to exclude them if they weren't on Silsden's electoral roll? Would you heck! I openly challenge any member of Silsden Town Council to state chapter and verse the legislation they have "relied" upon. It's this kind of pathetic petty power-mongering politics that makes me and many other people furious. I have nothing against Mr Naylor, although I would like to understand why he was deselected, and I know next to nothing about Mr Rowley so I am not being partisan when I say that I think Mr Mayor & Co have seriously misjudged how people would feel about their actions when it inevitably became public knowledge. Apologise now before the cries for your resignation become too loud to ignore. |
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| gazzer |
quoteWhat a disgrace to democracy all involved are, did they ask the public is this what they want and is this an "isolated" incident. Unfortunately the answer is no and all involved should be called to book for once again misusing their official positions and power. Many honest good men defended democracy for Britain only for our disgraceful town councillors to decide their own form of democracy. Animal farm springs to mind with napoleon as mayor. Hi Andy |
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| greengrass |
Can i ask all you lot to swim in the sea when we go fishing because you all bite better than the fish  |
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| MBR |
Will be interseting to see the minutes of the meeting - i wonder if the incident will be minuted ? Since this the silsden forum , would some of those involved want to have there say as to what happened 'AND WHY' , As their actions have brought the whole town council into disrepute !!! |
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| ginjo |
glad you think its funny greengrass.I doubt it will be minuted as it apparantly happened before the meeting started which is why there are serious implications as the correct procedure had not been followed.There is a standards body to which things concerning parish/town councils can be reported |
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| greengrass |
Gino no its not funny realy but they have all found somthing to moan about nobody can do right for doing wrong. And who wanted the mayors job when it came up nobody but at least he is trying and can anybody els do any better than him dount think so or they would have taken up being the mayor but soon as you lot think he has done something wrong you all bloody moan so  |
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| jonno |
I don't doubt Chris is doing a good job but that's not what this is about. If the town council are backing Mr Naylor and don't like Mr Rowley then fair enough they are allowed to support a candidate as far as I can see. But snubbing Mr Rowley in this way is just foolish because look at all the ammunition it gives people to criticise the major and the town council. |
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| ginjo |
are the council allowed to back a candidate in the elections? I thought the town council were there to serve the silsden community and not everyone in silsden will be voting for the same party , so is it right that the town council can back and promote one candidate? |
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| gazzer |
quoteare the council allowed to back a candidate in the elections? I thought the town council were there to serve the silsden community and not everyone in silsden will be voting for the same party , so is it right that the town council can back and promote one candidate? Has the council backed Mr Naylor or have individuals on the Council backed Mr Naylor.Subtle difference on the face of it but big difference in reality. Your question maybe should read "have the Council backed a candidate?". I hope they havent made it council policy but as individuals its their choice |
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| ginjo |
seeing as the mayor seems to run the show maybe I wrongly assumed that the council were supporting Mr Naylor. |
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| skippy |
ginjo as i keep telling you there are 4 seats availeable on the town council, apply for one of them ,you never know you could even be the new mayor .i wont be holding my breath awaiting your application doers not talkers we need. |
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| Peter |
For those that want to apply here is the link: www.silsden.net/town_council/docs_11/11_notice/WHY_NOT_BECOME_A_TOWN_COUNCILLOR.pdf  |
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| ted |
would apply but the fear of being thrown out of meetings for being born at airedale hospital and not somewhere in silsden has put me off. |
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| pumbajunior |
This sort of thing makes me laugh/angry all the time Im talking about people calling for heads to roll (usually when the know less than 0% what has happened) I admit i also was not at the meeting so dont know what happened but its just stupid but but but the yorkshire post said they did something naughty so they should all resign eat some manure be kicked in the private area and burned alive (now were is the roll eyes smiley?) IF YOU DONT KNOW THE FACTS DONT CALL FOR RESIGNATIONS  |
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| Peter |
quote would apply but the fear of being thrown out of meetings for being born at airedale hospital and not somewhere in silsden has put me off. Ted, you have neatly summed up the attitude of many people in Silsden, content to talk about it but not do anything. Occasionally I do go to a council meeting as a member of the public, just to see what is going on. There is never a problem getting a seat because unless someone has a real concern and it directly effects them no members of the public attend, as you can see if you look at the attendance of the minuted meetings www.silsden.net/town_council/index.htm Our councillors are not paid, they do the job for the good of the community (that's you and me) and they put in a lot of time outside of the council meetings making things work in Silsden, but they get all the criticism from this forum and it is assumed they are mindreaders (or at least read this forum and act on suggestions). I'm afraid it doesn't work that way! There have been 4 vacancies on the council for about the last year which puts a burden on the rest of the councillors. Who do you think organises the Youth Council which does wonderful work about Silsden and has made the skate park, the toddlers playground and the older childrens playground happen? How do you think the various organisations and events, we all enjoy, take place - it happens with a little help from the council in the form of donations to help the organisations fundraising. Being a town councillor is not for everyone and some people give their time to help groups - the beck clean up, cleaning the rubbish from the park, the gala, bonfire night, putting up Christmas light (and taking them down). If you want to make a change then become a town councillor, if you think you can do better, but don't knock those that have volunteered and are doing their best. The application form is here: www.silsden.net/town_council/docs_11/11_notice/WHY_NOT_BECOME_A_TOWN_COUNCILLOR.pdf .... and before you ask, I am not a town councillor because I need to be independent to run this website, but I would like to think I do my bit for the community. If you do nothing else at least attend a council meeting. The next one is on Thurs 10 May, starts 7.30pm in the Town Hall. |
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| MBR |
The 'facts' are very simple and admitted by the Perpetrators’themselves - they unlawfully evicted someone from a 'public' town council meeting!!! And the reason is becoming abundantly clear i.e. the councils support for a ceratin ex counciler attempt to be re-elected The council members cannot (and must not be alowed to )use the meeting and make decisions for their own political ends !!!!!! Thats why heads need 'to roll' - if only to bring a closure to this sorry affair , because it will only rumble on.. |
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| gazzer |
quote The council members cannot (and must not be alowed to )use the meeting and make decisions for their own political ends !!!!!! Whats your view on Keighley based Tories ditching(with no reason given) someone who lives in the ward in favour of someone who only wants to live here if he is elected first.Surely that is a clear case of someone acting for their own political ends!!!!! |
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| localman |
independent peter? you come across as one of naylors fans? |
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| dogcatcher |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteThis sort of thing makes me laugh/angry all the time Im talking about people calling for heads to roll (usually when the know less than 0% what has happened) I admit i also was not at the meeting so dont know what happened but its just stupid but but but the yorkshire post said they did something naughty so they should all resign eat some manure be kicked in the private area and burned alive (now were is the roll eyes smiley?) IF YOU DONT KNOW THE FACTS DONT CALL FOR RESIGNATIONS could`nt agree with u more pumba folk should never call for resignations there is room for 4 on the council get on it if they dont think the ones on there arnt doing enough,or doing the right thing(which i think they are)ps the land next to twisters could be a good area for a set of stocks (skippy 1st that could be used for taking fustration out of council members (members permitting)but dont call for resignations. |
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| Peter |
quoteindependent peter? you come across as one of naylors fans? localman, the whole post was about the council. They won't accept you as a councillor if you can't read. |
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| ginjo |
well the story is in the T& A now so no doubt more people will see it. I really think an official statement from the three concerned should be issued, they are not doing themselves any favours by keeping quiet. By the way skippy I am a doer not just a talker, I have done my fair share in the interests of silsden in the past and will continue to offer assistance with things when I am able.I have no desire to be part of the town council as I have seen how it operates, and I do not dispute that you work hard for silsden but there are ways of doing and saying things |
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| grandad |
How about this for a solution, Let the people decide! The Silsden Town councillors are all elected by the people of Silsden, when the time comes for an election, if enough of you moaners can be bothered to stand for election, then a vote will take place, then and only then will the views of the Silsden electorate be known, this funny way is called Democracy. |
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| Peter |
From the T & A www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/archive/2012/04/12/keighley_news+%28keighley_news%29/9644739.___Council_was_wrong_to_throw_me_out___/ |
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| Peter |
Maybe this is the date when all the good people of Silsden should attend a council meeting and put their hand up: Silsden Town Council - 10 May 2012 (AGM) |
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| ginjo |
grandad not all the town councillors are elected by the people of silsden, a lot of them for as long as I can remember have been co-opted on |
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| grandad |
YES and why have they been coopted? Because there are to many people in Silsden who are only too willing to moan, but they will not get off their backsides and stand for election! There will only be an election IF more people stand than there are seats, otherwise everyone who stood is automatically in and any empty seats have to be filled by cooption. |
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| ginjo |
fair point. I think a lot of the problem in silsden is lack of communication, only a small percentage of people in silsden look at silsden net, not everyone has internet access or buys newspapers I am not sure what the answer is. There has been a problem with the cobbydaler/offcumden for a very long time and maybe this is part of the reason why people are put off? Are the Town council elections publisised, how long can someone be on the council before they have to stand to be re-elected |
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| Peter |
quotefair point. I think a lot of the problem in silsden is lack of communication, only a small percentage of people in silsden look at silsden net, not everyone has internet access or buys newspapers I am not sure what the answer is. There has been a problem with the cobbydaler/offcumden for a very long time and maybe this is part of the reason why people are put off? Are the Town council elections publisised, how long can someone be on the council before they have to stand to be re-elected ginjo, I thing you should qualify your statements. BTW 1. I'm an offcumden! 2. silsden.net gets 1300 unique visitors per day and 60% look at the forum, 50% are returning visitors. That indicates to me most of the people that look at the site are local. 3. Many of Silsden residents have no interest in the community unless it affects them  4. The local elections are well publicised, but apathy prevails, perhaps the current publicity surrounding council / local ward councillor will get people off their backsides to do something and vote. but the cynic in me says it won't make any difference. |
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