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Topic : New school update |
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| victor |
Yesterday I was told by three men who were looking at the site that they were about to put in a tender for the new school. If they get the contract then work would start in July and take around 18 months to complete, that takes it up to 2021, then with the fitting out and the move it could be September 2021. |
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| midway |
Thank you for the update victor. |
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| victor |
You are very welcome middy |
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| JackoW |
quoteThank you for the update victor. Not surprised at the delay,at the public meeting I said to the bradford council representatives that there was a rumour that the school was going to be delayed one of them answered by saying that he had been in touch that day with the education department ant the school would be started with out fail in February,still think that they are waiting for the enabling road to get passed so they can use it for the construction vehicles,typical under hand Bradford Council |
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| victor |
Jackow when I asked about the access road to Bolon road he knew nothing about it. |
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| JackoW |
quoteJackow when I asked about the access road to Bolon road he knew nothing about it. Hi Victor seems to quiet on the road front ,just seems strange the school getting pushed on later when they said it had to be started in February,cheers |
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| davidaloud |
According to the prelims for the works, Contractors are supposed to take possession of the site on the 7th May 2019 with completion of works scheduled for 24th July 2020. At the moment there are several main contractors tendering for the work and tenders have yet to be submitted. There is a very detailed document that stipulates works that need to be carried out in advance of works proceeding and the school being handed over. I can't see how the tender process and enabling works can be completed in time but you never know. Other schools in the area have been built within this timeframe but to my knowledge non have the sort of topography that the site in Silsden has. Will update as the tender process proceeds. |
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| hat |
presumably the enabling works are about site access? |
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| victor |
Hat when I asked the man doing the estimate he said that if they had the contract then there would be one way in and one way out of the site, he also said the way in would be from Hawber cote lane. |
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| hat |
quoteHat when I asked the man doing the estimate he said that if they had the contract then there would be one way in and one way out of the site, he also said the way in would be from Hawber cote lane. construction access is likely to be worse than car access once it is open. in via Dale Bank & Hawber Cote? then out where? |
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| Peter |
With a bit of luck the construction traffic will wipe out the cars that stupidly parked both sides of the Dale View entrance from Bolton Road.  |
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| victor |
Peter at the meeting in the Town hall, the highways official said that work would be done on this junction but local councillors should bring it to there attention. As I have stated many times money was paid by Croft builders for this work over five years ago. With elections coming up could someone take it upon themselves to do something about it. |
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| hat |
Lots more detail published on the planning site now as part of pre-conditions 17/05793/SUB01 Alternative Reference PP-07677956 Application Received Mon 11 Mar 2019 Application Validated Mon 11 Mar 2019 Address Land At Hawber Cote Lane Silsden West Yorkshire Proposal Submission of details required by Conditions 2 (Phase 1 Desk Study), 3 (Phase 2 Site Investigation), 4 (Archaeological Recording), 5, 6 (Drainage), 7 (Remediation), 10 (Methodology), 11 (Levels), 12 (Tree Protection), 15 (Hard Surface Materials), 16 (Materials), 20 Landscaping, 23 (Specification of Works) and 27 (External Lighting) |
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| victor |
Thank you Hat, I looked at the planting plan and most of the plants are less than two foot tall. It will take ten years to give any privacy. |
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| hat |
tree felling going on on the proposed site today. |
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| Corky Yorky |
If more than 5 cubic metres (volume) of timber is removed from felled trees to this site then it would be illegal. An extraction licence would be required from the Forestry Commission if more than 5 cubic metres by volume. Does anyone think that this will be exceeded? |
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| hat |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) looking at what they had chopped, it would be well in excess of this - although so far they haven't removed it from site |
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| Peter |
4 large oak trees?   Part of the cost of a new school. |
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| Peter |
... and another tree which just grew in the wrong place for the new school....  This will be at the entrance of the school. |
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| tetleydrinker |
It's good to see that none of you NIMBY's are complaining about the proposed extension to the grave yard as this will be of more use to you than a school ! |
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| ginjo |
I thought these trees had preservation orders on them! |
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| Peter |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Building starts for new Silsden Primary School – May 2019 Read more news.silsden.net/facilities/building-starts-for-new-silsden-primary-school-may-2019 I HAVE JUST BEEN INFORMED OF A CORRECTION TO THE START DATE (because the council have not completed all the paperwork) THE EXPECTED START DATE WILL NOW BE JUNE (or even) JULY |
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| Corky Yorky |
“A public footpath running east-west through the site will be diverted to safeguard pupils” !! Diverted?? do they mean stopped?? Furthermore..given that their are three 2m high security fences going around the site and a 1.5m retaining wall you would have thought that the footpath doesn’t need to be diverted at all! |
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| hat |
So yesterday there’s a story published by the Keighley news with councillor whittaker quoting a council source that construction will start on 7 may. Today we have a retraction stating that there is no set date as they are still tendering the contract. Hope this doesn’t point to irregularities in the tendering process.. |
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| victor |
Hat I wonder if it is election time with candidates looking for publicity and getting info wrong. AS I said when I started this post a contractor told me he was putting in a tender for the new school, the work would start in July and take 18 months. |
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| cannopa |
Perhaps we should run a book on which happens first 1/ Start of school construction or 2/ Brexit. ??? |
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| hat |
Reported this morning that they are re tendering as the quote received was over budget. Now not scheduled to start until Q4 at the earliest. Right when the ground will be most unsuitable to work |
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| gazzer |
quoteReported this morning that they are re tendering as the quote received was over budget. Now not scheduled to start until Q4 at the earliest. Right when the ground will be most unsuitable to work "the quote" was over budget. Who gets just one quote on such a big job? |
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| victor |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Just to clear things up, first there is no doubt that the school is going on this site. Second there are two contractors who have been asked to quote for the new school. This information is from the council official who is in charge of the project. Also the council are trying to get permission to use Drabble house land for building access. |
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| davidaloud |
Just to add to the detail - to my knowledge there have been at least six main Contractors that have tendered for the work ISG Kier Clugston Interserve Bardsley Galiford Try In comparison to other schools in the district that have recently been built, the fit out specification for Silsden was much higher, so if the rest of the build specification follows it isn't surprising that it has come in over budget. There must be a huge cost for the groundworks on this scheme but I would have thought that an idea for the cost of that would have been known in advance. |
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| victor |
ON Friday this week I was talking to the man who is charge of the Project and he told me that the tendering process had been cut down to TWO contractors who have been asked to re-tender for the work. Also he said because of the vast amount of materials to be taken off site he was on his way to ask permission from the owners of Drabble house if their land could be used for building access. |
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| davidaloud |
Victor you are correct - they have now shortlisted from the original list of main contractors. I just wanted to emphasise that the tendering process was open to several main contractors not just one or two. |
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| victor |
Yes David we are both trying to keep everyone up to date with the school, and not trying to make political gain like some in the Keighley news. He did say not to believe all that is said by politicians in the papers. |
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| Corky Yorky |
If that is so..Why are they re-tendering? You should not be re-tendering at this stage? All parties have tendered and have unto that stage, presumed, a fair stab at getting a price, cost or quotation in. So why should two chosen parties be asked to re-submit? Asking two parties is ineffective playing one off against the other for no other reason other than Bradford couldn't choose between one from the other from all the parties submitted. Given the approximate value of 10million for the job and the technicalities involved it would be highly unusual for any of those submitted parties to come back with identical values. Surely that is a farce. |
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| gazzer |
quoteIf that is so..Why are they re-tendering? You should not be re-tendering at this stage? All parties have tendered and have unto that stage, presumed, a fair stab at getting a price, cost or quotation in. So why should two chosen parties be asked to re-submit? Asking two parties is ineffective playing one off against the other for no other . So the expectation is that these two companies can cut costs and find a cheaper price. I do not like big outsource companies like Interserve but this practice might explain why they struggle financially |
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| victor |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Gazzer it might not be on cost but on timescale we can only hope they get it right. Corkey have you ever said a positive word about anything ?. |
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