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Topic : Jacksons to keep bus contract |
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| Peter |
But do they give us the service we would like or have they had to promise facilities, like easy access just to get the contract? I guess the service is subsidised so what the public want is a second consideration. www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/4023150.print/ Does the 903 meet the local requirement for a bus service? |
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| alan |
Think the answer to that, Peter, is firmly NO! But after Metro withdrew the subsidy to Keighley arbitrarily it was the best we could get! Public transport in Silsden and Steeton is a joke! |
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| Landrover |
In a word no. The 903 does not keep to the timetable it is often early, I have see the bus drive away from the station as passengers are getting off the train. |
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| claymoreking |
It is a good, useful service. However it does annoy me when so often the bus is not an accessible one, it is the minibus (as is the case right now I believe). This is even more annoying when Jackson's are using one of the two low floor buses to ferry around Skipton Building Society staff in Skipton, whilst our 'accessible route' is being run by the said minibus. |
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| wahiba |
Compared with much of the UK the bus service from Silsden is excellent. Two an hour in both directions six days a week. While it would be nice if they connected with the trains at Silsden and Steeton Station don't forget they also connect at the Ilkley end. There is a warm waiting room there, plus a cafe shops etc. so is a better bet than going the other way. It would be nice for a full service around Silsden, but just look at the age of the car drivers coming down from the residential areas, especially during the day. Always surprises me when one hears all the whinging about fuel and the government and then when one gets a free bus pass people still use their cars. For the record I have a pass, have a push bike, motor bike and car but regularly use my bus pass, leaving the car on the drive. I have yet have to stand on a bus so I must assume that the service supplied meets the demand. Only when Jackons buses are regularly overloaded and passing queues at bus stops will we get more buses. |
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| alan |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) It's not wonderful for the old age pensioners on the East side of Silsden who lost their bus and now have to make do with one bus a day to Keighley or taxis. Perhaps that's why the taxi firm in Silsden is flourishing! |
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| Peter |
Jacksons to keep bus contract Keighley News 11:09am Tuesday 6th January 2009 A company that operates buses along a popular route has been given the contract to carry on running the service for at least another five years. Jacksons of Silsden - which runs the 903 service between Silsden, Addingham and Airedale Hospital - has been given the green light to continue. The service, funded under the Rural Bus Subsidy Grant, was fought for by more than 1,000 residents. In 2006, it was extended to operate once a day to Keighley to provide a shopping trip for Silsden residents who had been hit by reductions in service by Keighley & District. A low-floor bus was introduced on the service two years ago with the help of a grant from Yorkshire Forward and passenger numbers have increased since. Based on surveys in November, the service carries 163 passengers a day, with most trips exceeding Metro’s criteria for tendered services of six passengers per trip. In order to retain the contract, Jacksons offered to introduce a new low-floor bus and to provide an extra Keighley trip. ____________________ If you don't (or can't) use the 903, because it doesn't run when you would like to use it, then you probably missed the survey which was carried out in November. Why not make your views known here, you never know someone may read your comments and take note.  |
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| coby1 |
let`s get off the backs of jacksons there service to silsden over many years is exelent wedding car ect. I bet most silsdeners have used them over the years as for there bus timetable I am sure they do not drive away from the station car park on purpose to leave people stranded they were the first taxi firm in silsden and best drivers. |
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| skippy |
well said coby1 |
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| alan |
Who is on the back of Jacksons? If it wasn't for them there would be no bus service on the East side of Silsden, i.e. the 903. The fault lies squarely at the door of those horrible lot at Metro! |
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| Peter |
quoteNot me! But if you give feedback on the 903 service perhaps it can be made better. I'm sure the timetabling is dictated by Metro, Jacksons just provide the buses. |
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| wahiba |
If by the east side you mean Waterside and that part of the bus route that is where I live. It is where I know that during the day the cars are mainly driven by learners or those obviously entitled to a bus pass. Where I live there are people in their 70s and 80s who always drive and never use the bus. I know I am in a minority using the bus when I also have a car, motorbike and push bike, but then I have always been a bit different!!!! |
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| alan |
quoteIf by the east side you mean Waterside and that part of the bus route that is where I live. It is where I know that during the day the cars are mainly driven by learners or those obviously entitled to a bus pass. Where I live there are people in their 70s and 80s who always drive and never use the bus. I know I am in a minority using the bus when I also have a car, motorbike and push bike, but then I have always been a bit different!!!! What's learners got to do with the bus service? Most aren't even from Silsden! Perhaps is there was a bus service more would use it! There are lots of people who do not drive in the area! |
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| wahiba |
At one time there was an hourly service down Waterside. Not enough people used it so it was taken off. Nothing has changed as far as I know that if an hourly service were restored it would be better used than before. The reference to learners is purely observational as it is a popular spotl. Also it is where I see allthe drivers of bus pass age. It is a fact of life that if you rely on public transport then you need to make sure you live on, or very near to a regular route if that is what you want. It would be fairly straight forward to provide a public transport service that passed regularly near everyone. It would also cost a lot and involve a lot of vehivles driving around empty. There are other solution, such as banning all on road parking for private cars. Making all car parks attached to shops, pubs etc. charge for parking with the money going to the council as otherwise the shops etc. just rebate it. Most problems can be solved. Unfortunately the solutions are not likely to be accepted - at this point in time. Atitudes do change, slowly. |
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| alan |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteAt one time there was an hourly service down Waterside. Not enough people used it so it was taken off. Nothing has changed as far as I know that if an hourly service were restored it would be better used than before. Not quite true 'wahiba', you are making assumptions! Metro did not want to subsidise any more! How can anything change? The bus service has gone! But the modern philosophy should be to put these services in to place and then encourage or convince people to use them. That's the way we should be encouraging people to save energy for alleged global warming and not the silly fake solutions and taxes we are imposing now! I for one would use a bus service to Keighley IF it was reliable, and not just once a day. Exactly as I used to when the Metro subsidised service ran. |
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| pumbajunior |
quote There are other solution, such as banning all on road parking for private cars. Making all car parks attached to shops, pubs etc. charge for parking with the money going to the council as otherwise the shops etc. just rebate it. if people visit your house do you give them an hour long lecture about parking on the roadside whilst wagging your finger at them? or for this reason are people banned from visiting your house?  Most problems can be solved. Unfortunately the solutions are not likely to be accepted - at this point in time. Atitudes do change, slowly. |
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| alan |
Bet they take earplugs with 'em pumba! |
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| pumbajunior |
it would be adviseable id be interested to hear if Wahiba's opinion changed if he had to downsize to say a terraced house on elliot street and needed a car every day  |
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| alan |
It's the answer to all the world's troubles 'pumba' stop the cars parking on the roads!! |
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| Peter |
The subject is: Does the 903 bus meet the requirements of Silsden residents! |
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| skippy |
go get them peter  |
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| arthurja |
Going back to the beginning of this thread, should we not be celebrating that a local company, with local ties and local people running it, who have been in the local area for over 100 years, has confirmed a contract which will keep us 'the public' in transport for another 5 years it seems a shame to go off the subject but WELL DONE JACKSONS |
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| daisy |
The service that Jackson's provide is good but could it be better? The timetable has not been changed for some time (Sept 2006) although the Keighley and District timetable has (April 2008). Sometimes the Jackson’s bus seems to go to the station at a very similar time as the K&D bus for example at 0701 (K&D 0702) and again at 0715 (K&D 0719). I realise that the Jackson’s 0716 service picks up passengers around Waterside and this is part of a valuable service for people going to Airedale Hospital. It annoys me that there is no bus FROM THE STATION between 1648 and 1800. >: So it's back to the K&D and trying to cross the road for the bus stop - not easy in the dark but preferable to trying to cross the dual carriageway! I suppose we have to be grateful for the half hourly K&D service but this doesn’t always marry up with the trains! There is a K&D service (SS1) that serves Sutton, Cross Hills, Kildwick and Low Bradley which has 4 buses leaving the station at 1643, 1724, 1809 and 1900. WHY CAN’T THERE BE A REGULAR SHUTTLE SERVICE TO AND FROM THE STATION TO THE CENTRE OF SILSDEN? |
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| ginjo |
I agree, a regular service to station and back at peak times would be invaluable.A memeber of my family gets the 7-56am train to leeds, there is no bus for this service.At night her train arrives at steeton and silsden at 6-56pm again no bus so its either a 40 min walk, £3 each way in a taxi or a lift form someone.Jacksons do not run many buses early morning and teatime when they are most needed they seem to tootle about during the day with hardly anyone on them apart from the one that goes to keighley.Some joined up thinking is called for!! |
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| claymoreking |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) The SS1 is run so that folk who live in North Yorkshire (Bradley, Sutton, Crosshills etc.) can benefit from steeton & Silsden been a Metro station. Its cheaper to travel to Steeton on the train then get the SS1 to near Cononley than it is to stay on the train to Cononley. There wouldn't be the same demand for such a service to Silsden. And also, it serves five villages along the route. I think if such a service were introduced between Silsden and the station, then the continuation of the 903 could be threatened. |
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| wahiba |
If commuting from Leeds around 5:30 the bus timing from Ilkley makes it a reasonable connection for the Silsden bus. |
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| alan |
Once again I picked my son up from the station at 7.00pm on Friday evening. I watched the 903 to Silsden arrive a minute before the train and speed off after he dropped on person off, yes speed off! He seemed to want to avoid the train. Quite literally as he got twenty yards up the road the train came in! Is this a service? |
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| Landrover |
for once Alan I agree with you, just my experience |
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| claymoreking |
Minibus again on Monday. I know it doesn't matter a great deal to most, but for those who need the service of an accessible bus, its a bit of a let down. |
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| cja |
I think this is a case of you can't please all the people all of the time. If you look at the timetable, Alan, I think you will find that the bus should have been in Steeton at 1900hrs and so was obviously a minute or two late - hence the need to get back on his route. I would also ask - why don't K & D go down into the turining circle - is it because it is always blocked by private cars picking up relatives - making it impossible for the bus to turn round? Finally - who sets the timetable - Jacksons or Metro? I would suggest that if you have a genuine complaint about the 903 you should contact Jacksons direct - I have always found them most helpful. I think negative comments on a site like this gives ammunition to the people who want to stop the service completely. |
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| alan |
Smoke and mirrors cja! |
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| alan |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quote If you look at the timetable, Alan, I think you will find that the bus should have been in Steeton at 1900hrs and so was obviously a minute or two late - hence the need to get back on his route. It was actually just before seven and was going to Silsden NOT Steeton. My son lives in Silsden that's why he would get this bus! I must be missing something, I cannot for the life of me understand why a bus wouldn't be timetabled to catch people off the train. By the way it's usually taxi drivers who are in the turning circle. |
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| cja |
The timetable says - 1857 Silsden/steeton station - 1900 hours Steeton - 1902 Airedale Hospital - Depart 1915 - 1917 Steeton - 1920 Station - 1925 Silsden Bridge Street End, So what you're saying is - the bus was on time - but the timetable is not convenient for you or your son - who sets the timetable? |
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| alan |
quoteThe timetable says - 1857 Silsden/steeton station - 1900 hours Steeton - 1902 Airedale Hospital - Depart 1915 - 1917 Steeton - 1920 Station - 1925 Silsden Bridge Street End, So what you're saying is - the bus was on time - but the timetable is not convenient for you or your son - who sets the timetable? I am saying that the timetable is NOT RIGHT for people getting off the TRAIN! Perhaps that's why cars taxis block the turning circle because people have to be picked up! Can you please explain to me the commercial sense in buses not meeting passengers from the train? No wonder the country is going bust! |
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| cja |
As I understand it - the 903 is a 'rural' route - not commercial. At that time it is servicing the hospital visiting times. There is only one bus on this route and it cannot be all things to all people. Surely it is the commercial routes that should service the station more adequately and I ask again - who sets the timetable Jacksons or Metro? It seems to me that Jacksons may be getting the flack for something which is not their doing. |
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| alan |
quoteAs I understand it - the 903 is a 'rural' route - not commercial. At that time it is servicing the hospital visiting times. There is only one bus on this route and it cannot be all things to all people. Surely it is the commercial routes that should service the station more adequately and I ask again - who sets the timetable Jacksons or Metro? It seems to me that Jacksons may be getting the flack for something which is not their doing. Absolutely no idea who sets the timetable and I do not really care. My comment was that the bus doesn't meet the train, WHY NOT??????????????????????????????????? You seem to be paranoid about Jacksons being blamed. People can't get buses, simple fact! Blame who makes you happiest. |
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