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localman
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18/02/2013 : 19:42:57      reply with quote


Anjem Choudary, openly mocked hard-working Britons, calling them 'slaves'. He was secretly filmed him saying Islam will overrun Europe. He also maintained that Osama Bin Laden was his 'hero'. He told a crowd of around 30 fanatics: 'People will say, 'Ah, but you are not working'. But the normal situation is for you to take money from the kuffar (non-Muslim). Choudary spoke glowingly of the 9/11 attacks and urged his followers to have 'hate' in their hearts for core British concepts like democracy, freedom and freedom of religion. The 45-year-old former lawyer added: 'We are going to take England — the Muslims are coming.
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18/02/2013 : 20:11:05      reply with quote


He is still in this country because he was born here. Welling, London, and as far as i am aware we can not evict UK born people because we do not like what they say, or do. You are correct in that he frequently say's things that are inflammatory and personally i would like to set him adrift in a small dinghy with out a compass, but that will be why i am not a politician making the laws by which we live. It would be great if we had enforceable laws to stop people saying the type of disgusting twaddle that he keeps coming out with, but it seems we do not
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18/02/2013 : 20:50:11      reply with quote


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I don't know the details of what localman has posted but it's possible this Anjam guy may have committed the crime of making 'Hate Speech'.

See the Public Order Act 1986 part 3...

...expressions of racial hatred, which is defined as hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins. Section 18 of the Act says:

A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if—

(a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or

(b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby.

Sounds to me like (a) would cover his remarks and whoever recorded them should be passing the recording to the police with a complaint.
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19/02/2013 : 17:44:48      reply with quote


We now know that all humans are related and differences in 'race' are technically minor 'breed' differences. We are all members of the human race!

This means that picking on people because of colour is just displaying crass ignorance. As no one wants to be considered an ignoramus it is necessary for the minority baiters to pick on something else, so they chose whatever mumbo jumbo an individual might believe in. This is actually an old idea as anyone familiar with the Merchant of Venice will know.

As to those who subscribe to the mumbo jumbo known generally as islam there are now many people who believe they will be the end of everything we stand for.

No chance. Islam is the most disorganised, incompetent and bigoted version of mumbo jumbo around. Without the oil under a mumbo jumbo controlled state most of the problems this belief sector create would not exist. In fact most of the daft ideas they subscribe to really hold them back and they are really dependant on those who do not subscribe to that form of mumbo jumbo for most of their practical needs.

Now for anyone who considers my use of the term mumbo jumbo in lieu of religion and considers it a bigoted reaction remember:

I might disagree with your ideas and beliefs that cause me no harm, but will defend to the death your right to have those ideas and beliefs.

So, would you a vegan or vegeterian do that for a meat eater?
Would you a Presbyterian so so for a Roman Catholic?



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