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Topic : Be AFRAID, very AFRAID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Peter |
If you are thinking of voting for the Greens or are a paid up member of the Green Party you should read some of their policies... Drugs, brothels, al-Qaeda and the Beyonce tax: the Green Party plan for Britain: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/green-party/11356354/Drugs-brothels-al-Qaeda-and-the-Beyonce-tax-the-Green-Party-plan-for-Britain.html I clicked on a online headline and thought I'll just have a quick look and ended up reading the whole article. I can just imagine some of these people sat round a table in a pub a writing the Green Party policy document - lots of giggles when another stupid and dangerous suggestion is made, but it goes into the party policy because they know they will never get in.  |
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| gardenwood |
are you a councillor peter? is this subtle lobbying going on here? the title is misleading on the article and it is only from one source...is the telegraph not a fairly conservative paper. do you have any extracts/ articles from other sources that you can share? i would love to see them. all parties conjure up some policies that seem mad to some folks. jus sayin... |
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| old_miner |
I read the whole article too. Typical Tory propaganda. Interestingly it isn't much different from a true free marketeer believes in. Vote Labour |
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| Peter |
quoteare you a councillor peter? is this subtle lobbying going on here? the title is misleading on the article and it is only from one source...is the telegraph not a fairly conservative paper. do you have any extracts/ articles from other sources that you can share? i would love to see them. all parties conjure up some policies that seem mad to some folks. jus sayin... You are quite correct in that the Telegraph article in question is Tory propaganda, if you would like to plough through the Green Party Policy document you will find it here: policy.greenparty.org.uk/ .... and NO I am not a Silsden Councillor, although I do attend the meetings as a member of the general public in order to bring some truth to some of the local rumours which appear on this forum. |
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| ted |
it's a shame the owner of this website feels the need to abuse it to put across his own political agenda. you should remain neutral peter. |
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| robin |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Ted. I apologise if my comprehension skills do not match yours, but I did not read any political bias in Peter's post, I see it as a link to an item I would not otherwise have seen. |
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| ted |
apology accepted robin. The content of the link supports a right wing agenda against a political party. Peter is renowned for his pro-Tory reviews and this is appears to be the start of his pre-election campaigning. |
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| old_miner |
Minor parties such as the Greens, UKIP etc tend to attract elements of the loony fringes. While there single policy is often attractive to many people a quick scratch usually reveals some odd ideas. |
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| gazzer |
quote apology accepted robin. The content of the link supports a right wing agenda against a political party. Peter is renowned for his pro-Tory reviews and this is appears to be the start of his pre-election campaigning. The last 2 elections, both Bradford Council were not noted for Peter trying to get everyone to vote Tory but people seem to know who he will vote for at the next election.Must be some very clever people |
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| gazzer |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteMinor parties such as the Greens, UKIP etc tend to attract elements of the loony fringes. While there single policy is often attractive to many people a quick scratch usually reveals some odd ideas. See Mandelson was scratching at Labour policies yeasterday!! |
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| gazzer |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) To be fair to Peter it is right to point out the Greens policies which aim to cut the amount of tabacco and alcohol(cutting the size of a pint glass) consumed but allow you to smoke cannabis!! |
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| tetleydrinker |
Its not possible to cut the size of a pint glass, if you reduce the size of the glass it will no longer hold a pint! |
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| gazzer |
quoteIts not possible to cut the size of a pint glass, if you reduce the size of the glass it will no longer hold a pint! "DU403 To facilitate the responsible drinking of alcohol by both adults and young people, the Green Party would encourage the option of serving alcohol in smaller measures " |
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| tetleydrinker |
Thats not making a pint smaller, a pint will always be 20 fluid Oz. The option of serving alcohol in smaller measure would probably mean the introduction of one third pint glasses that you can already get at some establishments (real ale type tasting glasses) The Greens also say "Change to the legislation on short beer measures (it is not currently illegal to serve customers less than a full pint in a pub) so beer drinkers are not short changed." Which is a good thing |
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| gazzer |
quoteThats not making a pint smaller, a pint will always be 20 fluid Oz. The option of serving alcohol in smaller measure would probably mean the introduction of one third pint glasses that you can already get at some establishments (real ale type tasting glasses) The Greens also say "Change to the legislation on short beer measures (it is not currently illegal to serve customers less than a full pint in a pub) so beer drinkers are not short changed." Which is a good thing The head is an essential part of a pint around here |
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| tetleydrinker |
I know the head is important to Northern beers, I've spent many years selling, serving and drinking the stuff. At the moment I believe that weights and measures/trading standards allow a maximum of 5% for the head, anything over this would be classed as a short measure, so you are in theory only getting 95% actual beer, the answer to this would be lined or oversized glasses that would have extra room for the head, but this would mean pubs replacing cask beer glasses, retraining staff and missing out on the vicars collar profit. The easiest solution would be to ask the barstaff to top up your pint. |
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| gazzer |
quoteI know the head is important to Northern beers, I've spent many years selling, serving and drinking the stuff. At the moment I believe that weights and measures/trading standards allow a maximum of 5% for the head, anything over this would be classed as a short measure, so you are in theory only getting 95% actual beer, the answer to this would be lined or oversized glasses that would have extra room for the head, but this would mean pubs replacing cask beer glasses, retraining staff and missing out on the vicars collar profit. The easiest solution would be to ask the barstaff to top up your pint. Im happy at 95% if it means it tastes better than 100% flat southern beer |
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| dexter |
Getting away from the beer, this new topic opened by Peter is very interesting.. we are a few months away from probably the most interesting and possibly disastrous General Election ever. We are going to have another hung parliament... and we should be afraid. The SNP may even hold the balance of power, and could decide who becomes Prime Minister. People are currently fed up with politicians and are prepared to vote for fringe parties to express their anger and frustration, and this will not be good for the country. We will likely have to have another election within 12 months, and this will not be good for jobs, business or our economy. So people will get what they deserve... a shambles, sadly. We need strong government to deal with the economy, immigration, terrorism and other major issues facing us, but we are going to get a bunch of people squabbling amongst themselves all the time. Be afraid...! |
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| blob |
quoteIf you are thinking of voting for the Greens or are a paid up member of the Green Party you should read some of their policies... Drugs, brothels, al-Qaeda and the Beyonce tax: the Green Party plan for Britain: I think it's wrong to discount debate over the legalisation of some activities. In fact there is evidence out there that the decriminalisation of some activities such as drugs benefits the population as a whole. It is wrong to put addicts in prison without proper rehabilitation in my opinion and the drugs war isn't working. Why do we still have a healthy opium trade in Afghanistan for instance? Because we have a very healthy, untaxable black market. If you take the black market away you take criminals profits and benefit society. Please note I'm not necessarily saying this is what Government should be doing but it's worth healthy debate. quoteI read the whole article too. Typical Tory propaganda. Interestingly it isn't much different from a true free marketeer believes in. Vote Labour Why do you think the Telegraph is nicknamed the Torygraph? That said no paper is free from bias and any media outlet should be read with an open mind. I'm interested to know in your opinion what benefit a Labour Government would give the country? The last Labour Government achieved little in the way of traditional values. The pits were still shutting, the bankers even richer, business loans harder to come by, unemployment grew, public spending was out of control, you can go on.... |
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| gazzer |
quote quoteIf you are thinking of voting for the Greens or are a paid up member of the Green Party you should read some of their policies... Drugs, brothels, al-Qaeda and the Beyonce tax: the Green Party plan for Britain: I think it's wrong to discount debate over the legalisation of some activities. In fact there is evidence out there that the decriminalisation of some activities such as drugs benefits the population as a whole. It is wrong to put addicts in prison without proper rehabilitation in my opinion and the drugs war isn't working. Why do we still have a healthy opium trade in Afghanistan for instance? Because we have a very healthy, untaxable black market. If you take the black market away you take criminals profits and benefit society. Please note I'm not necessarily saying this is what Government should be doing but it's worth healthy debate. quoteI read the whole article too. Typical Tory propaganda. Interestingly it isn't much different from a true free marketeer believes in. Vote Labour Why do you think the Telegraph is nicknamed the Torygraph? That said no paper is free from bias and any media outlet should be read with an open mind. I'm interested to know in your opinion what benefit a Labour Government would give the country? The last Labour Government achieved little in the way of traditional values. The pits were still shutting, the bankers even richer, business loans harder to come by, unemployment grew, public spending was out of control, you can go on.... Personally I would jail any drug user caught twice and keep them their until they shop their dealer who would in turn get a life sentence.Cut out the demand you cut out the supply. None of this because we cant catch them we will tax them rubbish. |
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| gazzer |
Interestingly the first Labour leaflet arrived tonight claiming the need for Brownfield first in regards planning. That at odds with Labour on Bradford Council Green field first policy |
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