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Topic : 50 foot high phone mast overlooking park |
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| victor |
planning permission has put in to erect a 15 metre high phone mast behind properties on Banklands lane,which will be seen from all over Silsden.Application number 08/06616/PNT,if you walk on these footpaths have a look at brad mets site.If you think it should not be put up then join with us and object. KEEP SILSDEN FREE FROM MORE PHONE MASTS. |
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| alan |
To make a successful case you need to do it on planning grounds, see this site - www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2001/20012718.htm You will note the height of 15m is quite significant. |
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| Peter |
The mast application is for 02 Installation of a 15m slimline column 3 antennas 2, O.6m transmission dishes one equipment cabinet and associated development www.planning4bradford.com/PublicAccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=K9LISBDH03J00 Site plan (it's just the other side of the cow barn - a hidden corner) www.planninginbradford.com/WAM/doc/Drawing-852724.pdf?extension=.pdf&id=852724&location=TESTVOLUME&contentType=application/pdf&pageCount=1 |
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| alan |
Is this in the same location as Orange wanted to put one in a few years ago? |
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| Peter |
quoteIs this in the same location as Orange wanted to put one in a few years ago? I don't think it is, and the topic heading suggesting it would overlook the park I think is missleading. |
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| Baldybogey |
As alan says... any objection needs to be based on planning... Victor you suggest we can join you in objecting, could you please let us know what the objection(s) is (are)? |
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| Baldybogey |
quoteThe mast application is for 02 Installation of a 15m slimline column 3 antennas 2, O.6m transmission dishes one equipment cabinet and associated development www.planning4bradford.com/PublicAccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=K9LISBDH03J00 Site plan (it's just the other side of the cow barn - a hidden corner) www.planninginbradford.com/WAM/doc/Drawing-852724.pdf?extension=.pdf&id=852724&location=TESTVOLUME&contentType=application/pdf&pageCount=1 Using the first link that Peter provided you can select the SUBMIT COMMENTS link and send your objections in via the internet. The selections for objecting are as follows Adverse affect on SSSI SSI Adverse affect on wildlife Affect character of a Conservation Area Affect setting of Listed Building Impact on Landscape Inadequate drainage Inadequate parking provision Inappropriate design choice of materials Inappropriate in a Special Landscape Area Letter or petition in support Loss of privacy Loss of residential amenity Loss of right and public access Loss of trees Loss of visual amenity Non compliance with approved policy Not a planning issue Not in accordance with Development Plan Nuisance noise fumes dirt disturbance Out of keeping with surroundings Overshadowing Pollution of watercourse Poor Unsuitable vehicular access Traffic and Pedestrian safety Traffic congestion Visual intrusion Within Green Belt no special circumstances You can select one or more of these..... |
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| gazzer |
Its probably already been approved.I will check last weeks Keighley News!!!!!!! |
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| alan |
Not approved, see page below for dates - www.planning4bradford.com/PublicAccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=K9LISBDH03J00 No more comments from victor on what help he needs? |
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| victor |
If you go to the site you can see it's not in a hidden corner. There are open views to the south and east. The mast will be 5 metres above the nearby trees and in full view of properties on Hawber cote Lane and Banklands lane and will spoil the visual amenity of the footpath which runs next to the proposed mast. There is also the issue of radiation as many properties are within 150 metres of the mast. Maximum radiation dose is at 93 metres from the mast. Properties at 150 metres will get two thirds maximum dose. Any objections to this planning would be much appreciated you can do it online. |
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| victor |
If you click on the link Alan has posted above you can post comments and object. Thanks to Alan and to everyone who objects. |
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| victor |
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| victor |
How do you post a picture please. I have looked at the help but am no wiser! |
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| alan |
Re 'radiation' see this site - www.zyra.org.uk/phonmast.htm |
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| wahiba |
As everyone now has a mobile phone who on earth is going to object? As for radiation. The nearer the transmitter to your phone the less powerful the signal needs to be. Mobile phones and transmitters adjust the poor to what is required. The more transmitters the less likely the brain will be fried. If there ever was a problem - bit like MRI vaccine. Scare tactics from a weird minority without any scientific back up. |
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| Baldybogey |
quoteIf you go to the site you can see it's not in a hidden corner. There are open views to the south and east. The mast will be 5 metres above the nearby trees and in full view of properties on Hawber cote Lane and Banklands lane and will spoil the visual amenity of the footpath which runs next to the proposed mast. There is also the issue of radiation as many properties are within 150 metres of the mast. Maximum radiation dose is at 93 metres from the mast. Properties at 150 metres will get two thirds maximum dose. Any objections to this planning would be much appreciated you can do it online. Before I could put in an well thought out objection I will nip up that way and check out the visual amenity issue and make my own opinion regarding that. However regarding the "radiaion of 150m and maximum radiation dose is at 93 metres from the mast", could you paste some links to evidence that I could use to back up this objection? |
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| Peter |
quoteHow do you post a picture please. I have looked at the help but am no wiser! The picture has to be on some webspace somewhere. You then put the full URL to the image in between image quotes (generated by clicking on the image icon =  Alternatively send the image to me as an email attachment - address below |
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| Peter |
X marks the spot   |
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| skippy |
if you have a mobile phone think before you object  |
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| pumbajunior |
i should get excellant reception on my O2 phone  |
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| alan |
quoteif you have a mobile phone think before you object Trouble is emotion takes over 'skippy' Nobody moans about the radiation from the one in range of the school and VERY close to houses do they!!!! |
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| wahiba |
The reason no one moans is becasue they have read this link. www.zyra.org.uk/phonmast.htm I made my comments before reading it. As it back up what I wrote no problem. The 'radiation' is electromagnetic, same as is in the air for radios and TVs. Then the fact the transmitting mast are the same power as your hand set!!! Obvious when you think about it, it is a two way systems. With the mast always being much further away than the handset it is the handset that would be the problem. If you are worried about mobile phones do not use one. The masts are not the problem. |
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| alan |
Quite right 'wahiba' but there are lots of urban myths about radiation and phone masts. People forget that they have lots of devices around the house that will also have the same effect, i.e. wireless internet, video senders, alarms, mobile phones, etc., etc. |
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| Blade |
Victor, So, here we go again! I followed the last application with interest and unsurprisingly the similarities with this new application are uncanny; broadly similar site it is within 100M or so of the last application pandering attempt to disguise the installation behind trees similar design, although applicants often drop-in any stock design to satisfy initial paper planning submissions sited on privately owned farmland for the which the farmer is paid a pittance relative to the income the mast will generate for Telecoms providers, although I do appreciate this is the nature of business What to do? Clearly those who are in support of the mast and/or those who are not bothered or dont care, need do nothing. I will review the local press reports which followed the last application and post an update |
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| Baldybogey |
quote What to do? Clearly those who are in support of the mast and/or those who are not bothered or dont care, need do nothing. Hi Blade... What is meant by this comment???? Myself and others are wanting to be made aware of what the objections are. Whitout this information then how are we supposed to object. The lack of this information is leading myself, and possibly others, that yours and Victors concerns are simply NIMBY. I suggest if you wish to recruit support for an objection you need to supply us with something to object about..... |
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| alan |
Spot on 'Baldeybogy'. Without a coherent argument and planning reasons to argue with it will go nowhere. Last time moore time was spent attacking STC who weren't even the planning authority! Give us a good reason and argument. |
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| skippy |
thurs night 7.30 town hall town council planning meeting always open to the public just inform the clerk upon arival if you wish to speak the chairman will make sure your views are heard |
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| pumbajunior |
will be glad when the mast is up then my phonecall to greengrass today wouldnt have died due to lack of signal strength |
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| offcumden |
quoteAs everyone now has a mobile phone who on earth is going to object? NOT everyone has a mobile phone - I for one do not have one. quoteAs for radiation. The nearer the transmitter to your phone the less powerful the signal needs to be. Mobile phones and transmitters adjust the poor to what is required. The more transmitters the less likely the brain will be fried. If there ever was a problem - bit like MRI vaccine. Scare tactics from a weird minority without any scientific back up. Unfortunately most peoples' brains do not have the facility installed to reduce the amount of radiation received the closer they are to a mobile phone mast - are you suggesting the NHS offer an upgrade to people who don't have it... |
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| offcumden |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteIf there ever was a problem - bit like MRI vaccine. Scare tactics from a weird minority without any scientific back up. You're opening up a whole new debate there (there IS scientific evidence that the MMR vaccine has side effects). |
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| Marmate |
Don't we mean MMR and not MRI? If we do, there is slightly more evidence (although slightly more than sod all is not much) that Mobiles and mobile masts are dangerous. the whole mmr thing is complete rubbish - even most of the original authors of a study on 12 kids (meaningless sample group size as far as scientific research goes) agree their research was not accurate. |
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| Blade |
Victor, Skippy has helpfully raised the planning meeting tomorrow evening, Thurs 20th Nov, at Silsden Town Hall. If you (and others) are concerned about the proposed installation on the basis of the information (or lack of information) in the public domain, you should attend this meeting without fail and register any objections you may have. In the previous application Silsden Town Council backed the objectors on various criteria. Given that to all intent and purposes this new application is identical, I would be surprised if STC failed to provide the same level of interest and support on this occasion. I would ignore earlier postings regarding MMR, MRI which are entirely unrelated to this matter. At this stage I would also ignore other possibly uninformed comments regarding the direct correlation between mobile phone handsets and Base Stations. |
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| Peter |
AGENDA for the Planning Meeting Thur 20 November 2008 www.silsden.net/town_council/docs_08/08_planning/Gp_&_Planning_agenda_08_11_20.pdf |
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| alan |
It should be noted that the Public Adjournment is Item 3 on the agenda, that is when the public can have their say on the matter! They MUST make their requests known to the clerk prior to the meeting. |
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| alan |
I cannot stress too highly that coherent planning reasons MUST be put forward by objectors to stand the slightest chance of success. Try this site for some ideas - www.mastsanity.org/ |
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| Blade |
Those objecting to or otherwise concerned regarding the proposed siting of the mast may wish to visit website www.mastsanity.org where a wealth of information is available on the subject together with advice on how to best present individual and collective arguments. As is mentioned in earlier threads, is important to understand that Silsden Town Council is not responsible for planning. Planning decisions are made by BMDC Planning Department. In the previous application STC prepared an excellent case against the siting of the mast and their subsequent letter of objection to BMDC is a matter of public record. I would again urge anyone who has an interest in this subject to attend the meeting where you should receive good advice on how best to assess the options available to you. NIMBY- type comments are a complete non-issue. There is a wealth of information available which argues a precautionary approach should be adopted when considering the siting of base stations and telephone masts. Further information is available in the Stewart Report at website www.iegmp.org.uk |
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events sale / wanted general have your say looking for.. skippy greengrass |
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