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Topic : Parking fine - charity please ????? |
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| ilyama |
This morning, the wonderful people of Silsden turned out in truly massive numbers to support Evan's Big Journey. Unfortunately, some of the helpers got parking fines when unloading. Can "the powers that be" please help out ??? |
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| clarky46 |
This is madness! Evan's Big Journey is big news and not just in Silsden. How can this traffic warden do this? Someone may know them and if they do please please ask them to revoke the fines. There's numerous crimes committed in this country (in fact my neighbour was burgled yesterday and the thieves have disapperared into the ether)...but parking to unload some cakes etc. for a worthy charitable cause... come on! Please help somebody! |
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| mel11 |
This is madness!!! These wonderful people have given their time and effort for such a wonderful cause. How were they meant to get everything in?!! Do wagons and vans get fines when unloading on Kirkgate? I doubt it. I really hope someone can help! |
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| Dave |
I really hope they can get this sorted. Try this link. www.bradford.gov.uk/bmdc/transport_and_infrastructure/parking/parking_enforcement_fines/pcn_appeals.htm |
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| Avice |
I hope these parking fines can be waived. People who are just parked for a short time to unload cakes for a charity event should not be penalised in this way. Show us that you are human and have a heart! |
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| silsden resident |
get in touch with telegraph and argus make front page news |
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| gazzer |
See if you can get cctv footage of the council to show it was just unloading. |
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| Yorkshire Pudding |
Shame on you Bradford Council for tarnishing such a fantastic community event to raise money for such a good cause. It's a disgrace that we have to raise the money in the first place as the NHS should be offering this life changing treatment. Come on Town Council it's time to flex your muscle and show your worth!  |
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| crazypink |
Drives me absolutely crazy to see these fines being given out in this way, the warden if said to one of the stall holders i dont care what your here for i have already started the ticket so your still going to get it DISGRACEFUL, they need to get themselves to the top car park where it is always full of taxi's and dish the tickets out there. Come on Silsden we can fight this and get these tickets revoked we can't let something so small ruin something so big which is pulling every member of this community together and that is Evan  |
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| Golden Oldie |
What is the world coming to ? A wonderful fund raising event to help a little boy, and some jobsworth acts the prat!!!! If they were out there targeting proper criminals, fair dos'. The mind boggles at this uncalled for episode. |
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| tolpuddle |
I am curious. Where were these cars that were ticketed parked? If it was opposite the car park, that is free for half an hour, then it is the worst place to park in Silsden. Anything other than a quick stop and unloading to a third party is not really acceptable. |
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| crazypink |
They were parked in the car park for the half hour free parking due to St,James car park being full of people off loading also |
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| ilyama |
I emailed three councillors about this - not one single reply. Surprised ? Keighley News next, then... |
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| carliol |
What about contacting our local MP? Worth a try? However at the end of the day, it is Bradford Council who will decide if the fine can be cancelled, and the pressure should be towards them, as it appears it was one of their ticket wardens who issued the tickets.Who is the councillor who represents Silsden...go for him/her. |
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| carliol |
Some Councils are sensible www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2010/06/18/newcastle-council-scraps-charity-event-parking-tickets-72703-26679068/ Those who got the tickets should keep up the pressure. |
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| tolpuddle |
Were these parking fines for overstaying the free half hour or for parking on the road? It all seems a bit vague. What are the facts? |
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| steetonblue |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Have to say while i sympathise.... the facts are a little vague as mentioned above added to that, justice and the law is blind - exceptions can't be made willy nilly - where do we draw the line? I am afraid if i had got a parking ticket for being either illegally parked or outstaying my welcome for whatever reason, I would grumble and complain but in the end admit it was a fair cop and pay up. Just as a thought.... why not ask the council to donate the proceeds from the fine/fines to your charity? |
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| roosterman |
ask bradford met to donate the fines? youve more chance of getting blood out of a stone |
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| jonno |
Throw yourselves on the mercy of the enforcement team at the council, either individually or collectively. I did last time I got a ticket for overstaying a bit and found that they are actually people who listened and let me off, not the monsters that we sometimes think they are. |
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| roosterman |
we of silsden ought to get a petition up,explaing what was what then send it into them |
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| steetonblue |
We of Silsden perhaps should get the full facts first - there is a vast difference between a car pulling up and dropping something off because all the parking was full with an overzealous (but technically correct) parking warden jumping out and ticketing the car and a car being left in the car park longer than the permitted 30 minutes and getting ticketed by a parking warden who can not tell the car from any of the other cars and therefore can not exercise his judgement. But just in case you think i am contradicting myself - both cases are ticket worthy, it is just we would look a bit foolish if we kicked up a fuss when the latter or similar were the case! |
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| carliol |
steeton blue...I know what you are saying, but this not just an issue of facts and parking regulations. It is an emotional issue which has captured the minds of a large number of people, who wish to transform the life of a brave little lad and his family, and are intent on doing what they can to help it happen. Surely if the facts are put to Bradford Council, they will see the good publicity value of them helping out in this exceptional case. Only the people involved can do this, although a groundswell of local opinion and pressure on Councillors would also help. |
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| jonno |
As I already posted above, the parking enforcement team are not ogres and will listen to a reasoned and justified appeal. I have personal experience of this. However, the fact that no-one has come forward to say exactly where they parked and the circumstances around getting a ticket is beginning to wave a red flag for me. I sympathise with anyone who gets a ticket that they feel is unfair. If all of the tickets in question were really unreasonable then I encourage you all to band together and approach the parking enforcement team. If no-one is prepared to do this then I'd have to conclude that you know in your hearts the tickets were fair (or you're not really that bothered). |
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| steetonblue |
Thank you Jonno for saying far more eloquently what i was trying to say. The red flags are waving for me too. |
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| Dodzi |
Go to say I agree with you Jonno. Knowing someone who works for parking services they give 10 minutes grace to EVERYONE before issuing the ticket - the machine they use will not allow they to proceed until this has been done. 10 minutes is deemed enough time to drop off a delivery - or at least return to the car to explain. No one seems to be pointing out the exact circumstances of the offence (which it is even if done in the name of charity). |
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| grandson |
When reading this I were more suprised traffic warden managed to find Silsden. I have never ever seen anyone patrolling the car parks and/or a car with a ticket on! I am sure I saw someone getting ticketed on Sat 9th and then I thought "don't see that often". I am curious as to whether they were in Silsden in anticipation and why they could not be around when an ambulance couldn't get through the centre due to a truck outside natwest on double yellow's and parked cars outside the chemist. |
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| Dodzi |
quoteWhen reading this I were more suprised traffic warden managed to find Silsden. I have never ever seen anyone patrolling the car parks and/or a car with a ticket on! I am sure I saw someone getting ticketed on Sat 9th and then I thought "don't see that often". I am curious as to whether they were in Silsden in anticipation and why they could not be around when an ambulance couldn't get through the centre due to a truck outside natwest on double yellow's and parked cars outside the chemist. The traffic wardens do call through Silsden on a regular basis - but the size of our town does not justify one to be on duty every day! |
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| crazypink |
The exact facts are that the St.James car park was full of people alrady unloading and so some of the stall holders/helpers had to park in the main car-park and due to the amount they had to off load some took a little longer than they thought trying to juggle boxes and crossing the road, This then lead to some of the tickets over running the free half hour by 5-10mins there was NO GRACE given at all the attitude of the lady traffic warden was appalling she told one of the women she didnt care what she was doing and what the event was for she had gone over her 30minutes by 5mins. I think if it hadnt have been for the terrible attitude of the traffic warden then most would pay it, but her attitude was horrendous and she was not approachable at all. Hope this helps |
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| carliol |
It's good to get some facts on this, and it shows that an appeal should be made by those concerned to Bradford Council. The attitude of the traffic warden is inhuman and unnecessary, and she should have been less officious and uncaring. Maybe if her relatives were being charitably helped like this, she would have seen sense....treat others like you want to be treated yourself. Sad state of affairs, but common these days when you give authority to people like that. |
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| tolpuddle |
When using the 'free' 30 minutes one has to get a ticket. There is no 30 minutes without a ticket. If there was no ticket then car park personel would not know if the car had been there ten minutes or since their last visit. All Bradford car parks seem to be visited regularly to catch payment dodgers. As I pay my local taxes to Bradford I am am happy for this situation to continue. |
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| carliol |
tolpuddle....I don't think you have read crazypinks posting...the people got parking tickets for the free half hour, but overran the time by a few minutes, and an officious traffic warden then gave them tickets, when she could have been a bit more understanding and let them off with a caution. We all pay our taxes, but this is not about that! |
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| HB |
i know i'm not going to be liked, but, its a FREE 30 minutes NOT free 35 minutes they are following the rules, unloading should not take more than 30 minutes otherwise pay the parking fee and let other people park for free and use silsden. if people were unloading then the warden would have been seen and then the cars could have been moved. sorry i know people arent going to like me for that. |
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| tolpuddle |
To have caught them just 5 minutes over would have meant arriving luckily at that time, or watching the car until the time expired. In that case there is a genuine complaint. Suspicion is that it was probably a bit more than 5 minutes. Moral of the story - doing good works does not negate the need to comply with the laws of the land, |
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| steetonblue |
Don't feel bad about pointing out the truth - parking rules apply to everyone - if there was an exception for charity events, it would say it on the sign. I applaud people who put in the extra effort and do something for a good cause but where do you stop with the exceptions? Do doctors and nurses and other staff get free parking at Airedale even though many of them are putting in 2 or 3 hours unpaid extra every week? No, they don't! While i have no doubt that the warden could have come across as rude to the people involved - he/she was probably faced with people who probably had that self righteous rage that occurs on these occasions and in the end, he/she was right and if she was rude, an apology should be sought not a removal of the parking tickets. |
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| carliol |
HB, tolpuddle, and steetonblue.....sorry, but what a load of self-righteous twaddle. Show a bit of compassion, don't hide behind parking laws....what has the world come to, eh? These are people putting extra effort into something worthwhile, in a local cause, and they deserve better. |
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| steetonblue |
As mentioned above, it is not me that is being self righteous - it is those that feel that because they have done a good thing, the law should be bent for them- my point is, as it has been, where do we stop? Shouldn't parents be allowed a little longer, what about older people? what about people with green cars? etc etc etc. Justice is blind for a reason. I stick to the law, if i had been in that situation, i would have tried to return in time to pay or move and had i been fined, yes, i would have been upset but would have paid up and shut up! |
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