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Topic : Mayor's right to vote disputed |
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| Peter |
...mayor may be restricted on voting on local council matters.... Just spotted this on T & A what do you think? www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/3201544.Mayor_s_right_to_vote_disputed/ |
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| Bitter |
The Mayor who is also the chair of the meeting has every democratic right to have two votes. The first is showing thier right as a representative of the people who put them there as a local councillor and the second (if required) is to allow the business agenda to be completed. This is pathetic bickering over a silly item. The town council need to show people a more united front and get things moving in Silsden as they have done in the past. |
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| wahiba |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Method 1 - chair only a tie breaker if a tie - chair votes to break tie otherwise chairs opinion is worth tickety boo. Method 2 - chair uses casting vote in event of tie chair always votes and if it is a tie votes again. Choices for the chair are to: Use casting vote to pass motion. use casting vote to decline motion. In either case the casting vote may be contrary to their original vote. This is why you vote in a chair so they can be the final arbiter. Call them mayor, president or what you like, they have been appointed leader and given the authority to break stalemates. If you do not think a person will do a good job then do not vote them in as chair. If Silsden TC uses the tie break system only then it means the chair is just a figure head without authority. They still have the responsibility. In my opinion anyone acting as chair on that basis only should not be chair because ultimately they are abrogating their responsibilities. Looks nice on paper and prevents petty upsets, but it is not good for the community. We want decisions. |
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| alan |
I agree 'Bitter', but it doesn't help that the T&A story is innaccurate! |
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| Peter |
Alan, please feel free to correct the T & A story here. As this seems rather an important change to the voting rules I would also like to know how many councillors voted and what the majority was in favour of the motion. |
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| grandad |
There was never intended to be any change in the rules for the Mayor or chair of any meeting as to how they are allowed to vote. It was a request that the member taking the chair should act in a totally impartial manner at all times, we have had occasions in the past where the chair has used their members vote in order to rig a tie then use their casting vote to turn the decision in favour of their opinion. This course of action, whilst it may be legal in not impartial, and any person who is in the chair should at all times be impartial. |
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| wahiba |
If the chair is a member of the council then it is illogical for them to be impartial. If we voted for the Mayor separately to only have a casting vote, then that is slightly different. I am not sure if that system is not used elsewhere. There are other ways to cast a deciding vote - such as tossing a coin, a system I believe has been used to decide tied elections!!! Compared with France our local government is pathetic. A place the size of Silsden would have a near full time Mayor and quite a lot of real decisions would be made locally. |
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| alan |
Peter - first of all the council did not agree to it being a standing order, in part because it would not have been legal to do so. It was made as a suggestion and I think that the voting was 4 for and 2 against. |
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| Peter |
Alan, thanks for your reply and for putting the record straight. Did the Mayor vote?  |
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| alan |
Yes of course she did |
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| Herself |
As a town councillor, I have a vote in which to represent the views of the community.As Mayor, "who sits as chair" I have a casting vote. As councillor, I will at all times ( unless I have declared an intrest) use my vote to represent the public. As Mayor, and elected leader of the community, and in the event of a tie, will use the casting vote to make a decision which I believe will be in the best intrests of the people of Silsden. I may not always get it right,equally, I will not always be wrong, that is why it is important people read the agenda for the meetings and if they want to make a point they should let the council know.It is all very intresting and useful to read the views on Silsden. net. after the event, but if 20 people sit at home and disagree, while 10 take the time to contact me with their views, they I shall base my decision on the 10 I know about. While I may not agree with every councillor's views, or they with mine. I wholly support the right of any councillor to air their views and voice their opinion. Some may call it pathetic bickering, I call it debating and dicussion, and thank all the councillors who give up their free time to do their best for Silsden. |
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| bobber |
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! |
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| wahiba |
Democracy can be boring, but the alternative is worse. |
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