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Topic : This money the council want |
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| gazzer |
I am talking about this £25,000 towards a contact point. Its money given to us, the people of Silsden to spend and how ironic is it that had the money been spent on the library it would have been wasted now the council are selling that building. But I knew this would crop up again during the forthcoming election campaign and sure enough Mr Mallinson mentioned it on Twitter last week along with questioning the values of anyone who supports the Town Council. |
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| grandad |
I do not do Twitter, so can somebody say just what Mallinson said? |
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| bandnwire |
I'm not on twitter either, but I goodled Andrew Mallinson Twitter and he is shown as AndrewMallinso1. This then follows all he conversations. |
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| gazzer |
Andrew Mallinson @AndrewMallinso1 Apr 27 You support an unelected group that refuses to return £25k of public money? Strange values. |
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| gazzer |
Its quite a technicality calling the Town Council "unelected" |
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| gazzer |
quoteI do not do Twitter, so can somebody say just what Mallinson said? You dont have to sign up or post to see things. Heres Mr Mallinson's running mate, The Lesser Spotted Rowley who hibernates for most of the year but can be found in hedgerows and on footpaths in April and early May. Here he is just coming out of some undergrowth in Addingham https://twitter.com/AndrewMallinso1/status/462297339341066240/photo/1 |
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| midway |
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| grandad |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) So Mallinson says that the Silsden Town Council was not elected! That's rich coming from him! All of the Town Councillors got their seats by legal due process and as such they are all proper councillors in the eyes of the law. They have done more in one year for no pay; for the people of Silsden than he has in all of the years he has been lining his pockets at tax payers expense. That money was given to the council to use for a Police community contact point and if Mallinson had fulfilled the promises he made at the time we would by now have one. Mallinson's promises are all smoke and mirrors, all show and no substance. |
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| Peter |
www.bradford.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/2C6DD651-F27D-444C-A25B-BA8011B9F6C6/0/StatementofEarnings1stApril12to31stMarch13.pdf |
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| victor |
this post has been edited 2 time(s) Could I ask what has happened to the money collected last year and will be collected this year in the increased Town Council precept?. It was stated last year in the Keighley news by Andrew Naylor that the increase in precept was for Town Council ELECTIONS. If none have taken place where is the MONEY ?. |
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| grandad |
Peter, Thanks for the figures, Mallinson took £26,638.37, whilst Naylor who does a lot more for his constituents only took £15,645.89. This shows very well just who is giving value for money. Victor you can check the accounts for yourself they are all made public, and if you look you will see that this year the Town council reduced the precept, unlike most other councils. |
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| gazzer |
quotePeter, Thanks for the figures, Mallinson took £26,638.37, whilst Naylor who does a lot more for his constituents only took £15,645.89. This shows very well just who is giving value for money. Victor you can check the accounts for yourself they are all made public, and if you look you will see that this year the Town council reduced the precept, unlike most other councils. £26 and a half grand, no wonder Rowley is chasing election. Plus Mallinson gets around 5 grand a year as clerk to Cowling Parish Council!!! |
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| victor |
Grandad it was put up last year and the reason given in the Keighley News by Andrew Naylor was to pay for elections that did not take place. Where is the Money ?. |
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| gazzer |
quoteGrandad it was put up last year and the reason given in the Keighley News by Andrew Naylor was to pay for elections that did not take place. Where is the Money ?. Its all been spent on a booze up!!!! Seriously though I would guess at some time there will be an election and money will be needed and will be there in the accounts. |
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| victor |
Gazzer I don't mind if the precept had to go up but It should not have been used to have a go at Bradford council. To give the reason as to why it had to go up was that Bradford council had stopped funding Silsden council elections was not true as there have been no elections. |
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| gazzer |
Victor, if you read the press reports it was to cover the cost of any "potential" by election and the money will still be there. You need the money upfront. So its there from now on when there is a by election. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/10235379.Silsden_town_council_raises_precept_level/ |
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| victor |
Gazzer just found the quote in the Keighley news £11000 extra precept that is £4. 10p for band d homes. Where did the money go ?, not on elections as we were told it was for. |
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| Peter |
quoteGazzer I don't mind if the precept had to go up but It should not have been used to have a go at Bradford council. To give the reason as to why it had to go up was that Bradford council had stopped funding Silsden council elections was not true as there have been no elections. Item 7, STC Minutes Jan 2013 Setting of Precept – Having taken into account the reduction in base rate figures, possible capping next year and the £11.5k required to cover the cost of one election the council has proposed to set the precept at £50700 for the coming financial year. This figure will be subject to full ratification at the February 2013 main meeting. www.silsden.net/town_council/docs_13/13_meetings/STC_meeting_mins_Jan2013.pdf The £11.5K was a one off cost which was ring-fenced to cover the cost of an STC council election should the council membership be contested. I.E. more than one member of the public wanting to take the last remaining Silsden Town Council place. Up to now council members have been co-opted because so few of the people that like to moan about the council want to do the job. I believe upto 2013 Bradford covered such costs as and when they occurred, but made the decision to stop the funding last year. STC had no option but to raise the money "just in case" for the future. |
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| gazzer |
quoteGazzer just found the quote in the Keighley news £11000 extra precept that is £4. 10p for band d homes. Where did the money go ?, not on elections as we were told it was for. Bradford Council told all Town and Parish councils they had to raise an extra £11,800 to cover potential elections and I guess the money is ringfenced. Perhaps you need to ask Bradford Council why they no longer fund Town Council elections and forced us, the people of Silsden to pay for it. |
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| victor |
As I said I don't mind the precept going up in a one off ,but what excuse is it to collect it again this and future years. Or is it Bradford councils fault again. |
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| grandad |
Victor, What do you think would happen if the Town council had to cover the cost of more than one election, and they only had enough money ring fenced for one? Victor stop trying to make out that there is something untoward going on, the Town Council are only being careful. |
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| victor |
Grandad all people want is a little bit of Honesty, and not to blame Bradford council for everything. Why not just say the Town council need to raise extra money to purchase some buildings in the town for benefit of all Silsdeners. |
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| Peter |
quoteAs I said I don't mind the precept going up in a one off ,but what excuse is it to collect it again this and future years. Or is it Bradford councils fault again. This is not true and we must consider ourselves lucky (for lots of reasons) we do not live in Keighley. For Keighley...  www.keighleynews.co.uk/news/10994605.print/ ... and for Silsden  www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/localnews/11005938.print/ The money raised by the precept goes back to the people of Silsden in the form of grant to various organisations and projects and they can be accounted for (page 4): silsden.net/town_council/newsletter/STC_newsletter_AnnualReport_July2013.pdf |
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| victor |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Peter could you please look at the Keighley News Thursday 21 feb 2113 when the reason the precept going up was given by Andrew Naylor as. Bradford council has asked all town and parish councils in the district to add £11800 to this years bill to cover the potential cost of holding a by-election if a member resigned during the year. No other reason was given, all the blame was put on Bradford council. The precept went up by £4.10 p and came down by £0.49p, also Grandad the council were only asked to cover the cost of one member resigning. |
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| gazzer |
quotePeter could you please look at the Keighley News Thursday 21 feb 2113 when the reason the precept going up was given by Andrew Naylor as. Bradford council has asked all town and parish councils in the district to add £11800 to this years bill to cover the potential cost of holding a by-election if a member resigned during the year. No other reason was given, all the blame was put on Bradford council. The precept went up by £4.10 p and came down by £0.49p, also Grandad the council were only asked to cover the cost of one member resigning. Bradford Council have the resources to cover any number of elections.Silsden Town Council do not.Thats the difference and why the money needs to be in place before any elections. We can sleep easy that every penny will be accounted for and spent in Silsden, which is another difference to Bradford where Cobbydalers give more than their fair share compared to some areas of the city. |
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| gazzer |
Getting back to the point does anyone think Bradford Council should be allowed to steal the £25,000 this thread is about? |
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| victor |
Gazzer so the money is to be spent and not ring fenced. |
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| grandad |
Victor, It is obvious from your posts that you are one of Mallinson's stooges, truth and honesty is the last thing you will ever give, you loose one argument so you change the plot to create more smoke and mirrors. Fact, the 25K was given to the Town of Silsden by the Police; in recompense for the lose of the Police station, to be used to provide a place where the local officers can work and meet with the public, and that is the only thing it will ever be used for! The Smoke screen you have tried to create by going on about the money that the Town Council have had to collect in order to be able to pay for any and all future local by elections is NOTHING to do with the 25K. |
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| victor |
Just to let you know I would NEVER EVER vote for a conservative, and I always vote, and at the last council elections I voted for ANDREW NAYLOR. |
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| victor |
Grandad what argument have I lost, you should only collect to pay for a bill once. The precept for this year is £3.51p more than 2012,all the Town council have to do is say they need more money whatever for, not to blame Bradford council. Peter I see you have not found Andrew Naylors picture and comment or are you not interested in the truth ?. |
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| bandnwire |
I voted for ADRIAN Naylor. |
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| victor |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Grandad smoke and mirrors is what has happened. Go to the press and blame Bradford council for the higher precept, then a year later go back to the press and say we are reducing the precept. Silsden Town council has in fact put up the precept by £3.61p with no explanation, just blame Bradford council now that is Smoke And Mirrors. |
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| scc |
Why Gazzer have Silsden afc got there eye on it? |
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| Spanish Omelette |
Would be better spent than letting BC and STC squander it away!! Could buy at least two new mowers and a line marker |
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| gazzer |
quoteGazzer so the money is to be spent and not ring fenced. No...the money is for the people of Silsden, not Bradford or single groups. |
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| grandad |
victor, you are still trying to confuse the issues. ONE, The 25k was given to Silsden Council to be use for a Police and Community Centre, it as NOTHING to do with Bradford, they are trying to steal it away from the people of Silsden. TWO, The money raised by the Town Council to pay for potential future elections had to be raised because Bradford Council said they wouldn't pay for then any more, so if saying just why the money has to be raised is somehow blaming Bradford Council in you eyes? Then who else is to blame? Not Silsden Town Council they are only doing what they have had to, and yes they have raised the amount for the last three years WHY? Because there might be more than one election, when they feel they have enough ring fenced in reserve to cover all potential elections then I am sure that amount will be removed from the precept. Maybe now you can stop slagging off our unpaid hard working Town Councillors. Just one question, how many council meetings have you attended? |
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