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16/06/2011 : 09:20:04
Recently two 'Pet' dogs are being walked near us. One is a white alastian type which wears a mussell, the woman escorting this dog had a young child with her. So I wonder why on earth do people want a dog which appears to be a fighter/biter in the same house as ac hild Another is a Staffordshire bull dog the chap seemed to hold it on the leash but on another occasion a womam walking this dog could not make it go the way she wanted and after much tugging of the leash gave up and dragged it by the collar. In a recent edition of the Craven Herald a cross Staffordshire/Labrador attacked a cow near Bolton Abbey and the cow had to be 'put' down, This dog s Staffordshire dog had been let off its lead along with the owners other dog.Responsible dog owners??? |
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| steetonblue
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16/06/2011 : 09:46:57
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Don't really see your point there - you are making a lot of assumptions. The first two owners are being responsible : the muzzle - how do you know the dog needed it? how do you know that the owner is not just being responsible because ANY dog can turn on its owner and children? Maybe the owner recognises that the dog is perceived as dangerous so muzzles it in public to allay public fears. The second owner, failed to control by one method so resorted to another - what is wrong with that? The third one is irresponsible but I'm afraid there are irresponsible parents/dog owners/car drivers/employers etc etc etc - they are the small minority - very small minority and we can't legislate for idiots otherwise we would be bogged down in more silly laws than we already have. |
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| Golden Oldie
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16/06/2011 : 11:40:12
The third one is irresponsible but I'm afraid there are irresponsible parents/dog owners/car drivers/employers etc etc etc - they are the small minority - very small minority and we can't legislate for idiots otherwise we would be bogged down in more silly laws than we already have.
Really must agree with this comment, it takes all sorts. Walk down any street and you will note irresponsibility.
Fully endorse responsible dog ownership in any form,but there are lazy inconsiderate owners.
Also, just a point,it could well have been that the dog wearing a muzzle, was infact wearing a Halti or gentle leader, (neither of which are muzzles) Use one of these on my own boy as he is strong. |
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| steetonblue
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16/06/2011 : 11:55:27
I wondered about the muzzle/halti thing too - the padded haltis particularly look like muzzles - my old dog wore a red one and people used to comment on her muzzle all the time. |
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| pgp001
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16/06/2011 : 13:02:04
We happened upon the people with the "muzzled" white Alsation last week whilst out walking.
The couple along with their children were very well mannered and polite. The dog was well behaved and approachable and showed no hint of aggression to us at all.
Whats the problem ?? |
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| original
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16/06/2011 : 13:02:58
It certainly looked like a full mussell to me , I have seen quite a few of various types this one was definatly a full one. |
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| localman
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16/06/2011 : 14:17:27
dog s--t every where its there back sides that should be muzzled in the far east they have the best ideas dogs and cats are served up for dinner yum yum with all the dogs and cats in this country we could solve the third world food problems over night then no more dog s--t here 
______________________________ You may think this localman but it isn't the subject of this thread. Please resist winding people up on this topic. Thank you, Peter |
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| old_miner
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16/06/2011 : 16:10:45
quote posted by localman
dog s--t every where its there back sides that should be muzzled in the far east they have the best ideas dogs and cats are served up for dinner yum yum with all the dogs and cats in this country we could solve the third world food problems over night then no more dog s--t here 
Keep it up localman.Too many bad dog owners. ______________________________ You may think this localman but it isn't the subject of this thread. Please resist winding people up on this topic. Thank you, Peter  |
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| Golden Oldie
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16/06/2011 : 16:43:41
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Keep it up localman.Too many bad dog owners. As quoted by old miner.
Is that along with bad drivers, neighbours, children, litter louts, yobs, and anyone else unfortunate to breathe? |
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| grandad
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17/06/2011 : 20:53:42
The dog we had for thirteen year before we lost him, always went out wearing a muzzle, he was a lovely dog, the kids could do anything with him in perfect safety, the reason for the muzzle was that other dog owners would let their dogs off the lead then the dog would run over to ours, who became frightened by the dog, so he reacted to make it go away, this made him look aggressive, but he was only protecting himself, and us from the other dog! |
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| Golden Oldie
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18/06/2011 : 11:23:22
Know quite a number of people that use muzzles on their dogs, purely to stop them picking up all manner of nasties on their walks. One such dog was one of the ones that died recently in Crosshills. She hadn't a bad bone in her, but was a horror for picking up rubbish, which she did once too often. |
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| easynow
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20/06/2011 : 11:20:48
I love Dogs , man`s bestest friend , companion for life,they keep ya fit , get ya outdoors , keep ya young ........... i never ever leave the house without the little black pvc bags ,to clear up any mess, as i love Silsden even more than the dog . |
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| old_miner
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20/06/2011 : 12:19:39
quote posted by Golden Oldie
Keep it up localman.Too many bad dog owners. As quoted by old miner.
Is that along with bad drivers, neighbours, children, litter louts, yobs, and anyone else unfortunate to breathe? Not sure of what this means? It could read you consider all those mentioned are good people who cannot help their misdemeanour or that along with bad dogs we should eat bad people!
Good story line for a horror film though. |
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| pumbajunior
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20/06/2011 : 20:47:07
quote posted by easynow
I love Dogs , man`s bestest friend , companion for life,they keep ya fit , get ya outdoors , keep ya young ........... i never ever leave the house without the little black pvc bags ,to clear up any mess, as i love Silsden even more than the dog .  same here have at least 2 rolls of bags when dog walking 1 might not be enough
even though im a dog owner/walker i still dont like seeing dog crap everywere
when daisy go's if theres some nearby i bag that at same time too |
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| bantam17
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06/07/2011 : 02:33:51
Why do you need a Halti? It just felt weird for me walking my dog. Training training training. Oh your dog should walk on the left (pedantic, sorry) |
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| localman
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06/07/2011 : 10:19:16
DOGS, have a walk up shed's side on the pet shop side, there are bits of dog s--t all over the pavement some fithly sod must just let there dog out to have a sh-t here they should be prosecuted |
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| troy
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07/08/2011 : 20:37:52
quote posted by original
Recently two 'Pet' dogs are being walked near us. One is a white alastian type which wears a mussell, the woman escorting this dog had a young child with her. So I wonder why on earth do people want a dog which appears to be a fighter/biter in the same house as ac hild Another is a Staffordshire bull dog the chap seemed to hold it on the leash but on another occasion a womam walking this dog could not make it go the way she wanted and after much tugging of the leash gave up and dragged it by the collar. In a recent edition of the Craven Herald a cross Staffordshire/Labrador attacked a cow near Bolton Abbey and the cow had to be 'put' down, This dog s Staffordshire dog had been let off its lead along with the owners other dog.Responsible dog owners??? |
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| Booth
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08/08/2011 : 10:30:58
I am very outraged at this post as i seem to know the *white alsation you are on about as he is the only one i know in silsden, I am the owners sister and actually he is NOT an alsation but a german shep/akita... they rehomed him after he was taken into a rescue center, he is a fabolous dog! who loves her two children dearly but has some walking issues like pulling, another mistake you have made is that it is NOT a muzzle but indeed a halti which stops him from pulling, Is it right that you are making such clear cut assumptions about dogs and there owners? my sister has taken on the role of saving this dog so yes it needs some training and yes she has children but what is she ment to do, not walk the dog? and if this is your view point then why didnt you say it aloud to her. she is doing the very best to help the dog by taking him to training sessions. Or is it that he is a big dog that caused you to make assumptions or that the dog 'looked like an alsation', a dog is what it is a cocker spaniel could pull as much as he does but who you ever make that judgement? |
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| PeterJS
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08/08/2011 : 11:38:02
@Booth I use a halti as well with our female German Shepherd. A few people don't know the difference. A halti gives you more control over the dog and it's head, Our previous German Shepherd didn't wear one because he didn't pull and wasn't bothered with anything else (dogs, cats etc.). Unfortunately when walking a German Shepherd "some" people are going to instinctively think it is aggressive.
Aggressive behaviour in smaller dogs is generally ignored by their owners who let their dog pull towards another dog snarling and others (size and "cute factor?). One owner even chuckled when their little "pouchie" nearly nipped me whilst trying to bite my dog. |
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| pumbajunior
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08/08/2011 : 14:08:27
Agreed Booth & Peterjs we have a staffie/whippet cross she pulls badly so we have her on a harness she only likes humans and is very gentle with children (just had friends and there young children round yesterday and they loved playing with her)
But if shes out walking and sees another animal she go's beserk and looks vicious
We took her on from dogs trust as a rescue dog because she wasnt good with animals but we always have her on a flexi line so she can run around and play but is constantly under control |
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| skippy
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08/08/2011 : 17:16:26
pumba you say she likes humans that must mean dave wrigg and me are not human   |
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| pumbajunior
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08/08/2011 : 20:46:24
you said it skippy nah i think thats big blokes who she thinks are a threat to me so shes earning her next meal by warning you off |
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| Sarah
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10/08/2011 : 10:50:06
So happy that some people actually care about our furface friends - Good on your sister for having the guts to help a dog out and don't let her worry about the petty people! My dog would bite anyone who came close to me but her job is to look after us - and I cross the road when other people walk towards us with dogs! |
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| pumbajunior
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10/08/2011 : 19:46:00
Yeah i do that aswell Sarah its just easier |
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| Booth
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10/08/2011 : 21:56:48
thanks for your support everyone! this thread really got my sister upset! |
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