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Topic : Silsden Coop Refurb |
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| tetleydrinker |
I understand that Silsden Coop will be closing for a few days shortly for a refurb. Does anybody know if the cooperative have considered putting on free courtesy bus to another of there local stores for people without transport ? or perhaps the coop thinks that as the holder of the shopping monopoly in the village/town customer retention is not a problem (they've got people by various dangling extremeties). |
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| localman |
try some of our local little shops not ask for a free bus to crosshills  |
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| tetleydrinker |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) A typical if slightly aggressive and grammatically poor response.javascript:smileyInsert(topicform.message, '  ');I do use the local shops, and do my upmost to avoid using the coop whenever possible, I've even used the new Fruit and Veg shop today (for regular posters its at the top of town, you may see it as you drive through the town). My initial post was that as the coop is the only "ONE STOP" solution for shopping in Silsden for the elderly and people with mobility problems who may not be able to jump in there car or hop on a bus, a token gesture by the cooperative society would have been nice. |
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| hermione fraggle |
Why do they need to close it? Last time they refurbished it, they completely changed the lay out including knocking down walls and building new ones and the place stayed open albeit with a slightly reduced service. |
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| Peter |
Has anyone actually asked the Co-Op what they are doing? |
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| localman |
mr anti co-op sorry about my grammer did not know school teachers and know all's used this site, so just to point out one thing I like the co-op I like the people who work there and most of them are local nice people and I for one use the co-op the co-op has been part of silsden life for more years than anyone can remember dont knock it just be glad we have it, They are only modernising the shop and have to close due to health and safety laws if my grammer is wrong "tuff" get used to it  |
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| Baldybogey |
quoteHas anyone actually asked the Co-Op what they are doing? Yes.... was told the other night they are open and the refurb team have to be done and out in 24 hrs... they started when it closed last night. |
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| tetleydrinker |
I am not anti Coop, If I needs something that I cannot get elsewhere in Silsden I will use it, but I prefer to support the smaller traders whenever possible. |
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| Cobbydale fruits |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) The co-op could have easily staggered the work and run a slightly reduced service but that would cost more Money so guess you either shop local or go to keighley / crosshills, I have just opened the new shop next to Chicago hut, the fruit and veg one, but I also sell milk, eggs, and lots of other stuff plus have offers on most things, Anyhow I may be seen as biased against the co-op which I am not really but anyhow ..... |
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| Peter |
this post has been edited 2 time(s) quoteHas anyone actually asked the Co-Op what they are doing? The sign just inside the door says it will be closed for 4 days: Sun - Weds (22, 23, 24, 25th May)  |
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| Ockin Peron |
Don't like the Co-op? Imagine living in Addingham where they don't even have the tiny village shop any more. |
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| gazzer |
The deli isnt there(at the Co-op) anymore. When it first opened it did fantastic hot and cold sandwiches and even first thing in a morning you had to queue. If we were working out of town we called at the co-op because we knew the butties wouldnt be bettered. Then West Yorkshire Co-op was taken over by lancashire(merged with, officially) and butties became barms and hardly contained fillings in comparison to the Yorkshire run days. |
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| Cobbydale fruits |
quoteThe deli isnt there(at the Co-op) anymore. When it first opened it did fantastic hot and cold sandwiches and even first thing in a morning you had to queue. If we were working out of town we called at the co-op because we knew the butties wouldnt be bettered. Then West Yorkshire Co-op was taken over by lancashire(merged with, officially) and butties became barms and hardly contained fillings in comparison to the Yorkshire run days. From what I here there is a deli opening up next door to me, I saw lots of catering equipment delivered, It's good news for me cos I will only need to nip in next door, I hope they do toasties, |
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| old_miner |
After talking to the staff - ie chatting to the ladies - it seems that it is a general refurbishment. the aisles are being turned ninety degrees, as it was when it first opened!! this is no doubt why it has to be closed for a few days. There are plenty of notices up about the closure, so I assume most regulars know to stock up to cover that period. As for the Co-Operative v local business argument. Co-Operatives were started by workers who were getting ripped off by the 'local businesses'. Shopping out of town was no so easy in the mid 1800s so the 'local businesses' had a monopoly and naturally ripped off the workers. 'Local Businesses' generally hate competition. They prefer fixed prices and cartels. Of course not all of them towed the line, names like Morrison, Sainsbury, Marks etc. come to mind. Any business only succeeds if it delivers what people want. Obviously the local sandwich shops provide a better service than the Co-Operative as the Co-Operative did cut down that side of their trade. Win some, lose some. There is no such thing in this world as a free lunch. |
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| localman |
spot on old miner  |
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| Cobbydale fruits |
Old miner how many local shop owners do you know? And out of them how many drive really nice big cars and live in mansions, I think you will struggle to find any, Now on the flip side how many directors do you know of places like Morrisons, Asda, Tesco and the co-op that live in a two bed house in a terraced street, Not any, the co-op was a brilliant idea when it was born but in recent times it has become far more commercialy driven then its founders had intended, it acts like any business would when they have a monopoly, and so you see, most small businesses like almost 90% in silsden town centre are on a knife edge, a few bad weeks of trade and its gone, We don't have a million to spend on a refurb. |
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| Dave |
I see the Deli has already gone |
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| old_miner |
I do patronise the local businesses, other than the Co-Operative that provide me with what I need. No chemist or barber at the Co-Operative yet. Many years ago I once bought a suit from John Collier. Since moving to Silsden I learnt that that was the successor to a business that started in Silsden. So local businesses can grow and have a big house etc. As for those 'struggling' on. Well if it is not paying a business does not last long. So any business that has been around a while obviously pays. To increase profits choices have to be made. To increase one pay choices have to made. Some make better choices than others. I do not have a big house or flash car so my choices may not, some eyes, have been very good. Back to the Co-Operative. The CEO was on the Radio 4 business programme at 6:25am on Friday. Started as lad and worked his way up. Obviously made some good choices. |
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| Cobbydale fruits |
Running your own business is not always about money. Some people do it for other reasons. If you've ever run your own business then you know what I'm saying, If you like people ripping u off then that's just you. I sell the same stuff at lower prices, granted they have more choice and variety but you pay for that. I try to stock all the basics plus really good quality fruit and veg. I don't think anyone will ever let you cut an Apple and try it before you buy in the co-op.... that is what its about when you go to a local shop. |
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| Cobbydale fruits |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) DONT FORGET WE ARE OPEN EXTENDED OURS WHILST THE CO-OP IS SHUT. MON - THURS 9 AM TILL 10 PM FRI - SAT 9AM TILL 7PM SUNDAY 10AM TILL 4PM GET YOUR MILK, EGGS, BREAD AND FRESH FRUIT PLUS LOADS MORE. THANK YOU |
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| old_miner |
Unless one is running a business as a hobby (football club!)then a business has to make a profit to survive. The trouble is people confuse the necessary profit to pay for the business with the surplus profit which is what a shareholder takes out. However, the surplus profit comes about from the initial investment. There is no such thing as a free lunch. |
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| Cobbydale fruits |
Why don't you ask the kids at silsden pre school about a free lunch, just because a business doesn't shout about giving back to the community doesn't mean they don't do it, All charitys run on peoples generosity, and that entails a 'free lunch' as you put it. |
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| old_miner |
The term 'free lunch' just means that everything has to be paid for. For example: 'Free' from the government has been paid for by taxes. 'Free' from a charity has been paid for by donations. 'Free' from a company has been paid for in the price of that and/or other items. NOTHING IS FREE - SOMEONE SOMEWHERE PAYS THE PRICE |
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| jonno |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) That's quite a cynical attitude you've got there Old Miner, I thought I was negative but compared to you I'm wearing rose tinted specs. As far as a "free lunch" goes, if I give you something, or a business gives you something and it doesn't cost you anything then, to you, it's free. Just because a business gives you something for free doesn't have to mean they will put up the price of their goods to cover the cost of what they've given you. They can simply accept that they will make a little bit less profit. I would even go so far as to say this is what most smaller businesses will do because it's too much hassle and not worth their while to muck around increasing prices fractionally across their product range to cover what they've given you. Old Miner can I ask you this, have you ever given something to someone with no expectation of anything whatsoever in return? (this can include acts of service, eg shopping for someone, free babysitting, dog walking, gardening, decorating.) If so then you've given them a "free lunch". If not then I'm gobsmacked. The saying, "there's no such thing as a free lunch" is simply a cynical way of saying most "gratuities" or "hospitality" is given with the expectation of generating future business or storing up favours to be used in the future. It's not meant to be taken literally or to cover every instance where someone receives something at no cost to themselves. To try to get vaguely back on topic the Co-op could have sacrificed some profit, at the expense of fractionally lower dividends for shareholders, and put on some kind of free shuttle bus to another Co-op store, if there were one fairly close by. As I recall the Bingley Co-op did this when they were being re-furbished and took people up to Eldwick I think it was, so the initial suggestion is not as ludicrous as you may think. |
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| pumbajunior |
Bingley definately did Jonno |
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| Neo_ad |
"MON - THURS 9 AM TILL 10 PM FRI - SAT 9AM TILL 7PM SUNDAY 10AM TILL 4PM" Just went down to buy a few bits only to find you closed at 8:05pm |
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| old_miner |
I am trying to educate rather than be cynical. Too many people really believe that 'free' is out of thin air. I am quite happy to pay my taxes to contribute towards the 'free' services delivered by the government. |
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| Cobbydale fruits |
I'm sorry for being closed, I'm all out of milk, green top, bread and other essentials, the cash and carry close at 8 so I had no choice but to close early as I am on my own, very sorry about that, I will be open 9 in morning, pls accept my apologies for any inconvenience. Shop number is 01535 656972, I will try to have it diverted to my phone if I have to nip out again, also I do deliver so pls do not hesitate to use that service, there is a minimum order of 5 pounds. Thank you |
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| spud |
why do you not get local produce milk ring heather on655229 local bakers they will bring to you |
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| gazzer |
over 36 beers in the fridge at the new Co-op one of which is a ginger beer and the rest are lagers. Not one English style beer or cider. |
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| Cobbydale fruits |
I am looking into getting more local produce in, its just going to take more time, currently most of my fruit and veg are grown in the UK, the other products such as toothbrush, toothpaste, pasta are imported because that's the way it is nowadays. On another note going back to the topic of the forum, co-op prices are way over priced on their fruit and veg. I went in yesterday to check their prices and they were double what I price my fruit and veg at if not more, eg cucumbers co-op price 1.25 each my price 50p each, same produce, oranges co-op price 1.00 for 4, my price 1.00 for 8, and you can taste before you buy, this is just two examples I gave, there are many more, It's not the same co-op it used to be, it was set up as a way to beat high prices and it has now become exactly the type of organization it was competing against. |
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| carliol |
When Co-op bought Somerfield supermarkets it was obvious which way they intended to go...they are now a hard commercial organisation that will charge customers what it can get away with. The old Co-op concept has gone now, what it needs is some competition in Silsden to bring fairer prices to the local people. Let's see what happens then. But meantime we have to pay their high prices for the convenience of local shopping and their (almost) monopoly. That's life....  |
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| silsden resident |
any body know why cobbydale fruit and veg shop is closed |
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| Cobbydale fruits |
I had to nip out for some lunch, did leave a sign, |
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