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Topic : silsden town council |
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| localman |
well its sarting to hot up on the yorkshire post read the comments the town council seem to have got them selves in a right pickle and by what some so called legal experts are saying the town clerk may have got it wrong so the council may now face legal action www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/tory-asked-to-leave-town-council-meeting-humiliated-1-4428069 |
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| localman |
here is the latest comment on the yorkshire post you will see Silsden.net gets a mention aking issue Monday, April 9, 2012 at 08:14 AM Let's have some common sence raises some interesting issues all of which are rubbish. The desision to kick Mr Rowley out was made between by what now appears to be three individuals and maybe a forth, who lets say has his own political agenda. And I have to say its a bit rich that you him going to the press when other members of the Silsden council have done the same over their personal issues, no condemnation there I see.This is not the Silsden .net forum where you can remove comments that you don't like sir there arecserious issues here, the law has been broken. I feel Mr Rowley had no option but to go to the press after all this is a free country last time I looked. And what rubbish do you seriously argue that he could have objected before the meeting began. How could he he was told to leave before the meeting started, so dont talk rubbish. This was admitted by the town mayor " simple" . The town Clark should resign as should all concerned and a public apology given. And let not forget the law may have been broken here and there maybe a case for discrimination. This is shocking pure and simple no excuses, discrimination. Tell us the truth what has the town council got to hide? Who are they covering for? What are they afraid of? |
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| MBR |
Yes - just read about the debacle , sounds a complete mess and does make you believe that vested interests were possibly at play - how can anyone be 'barred' from a 'public' town council meeting , would the press be asked to leave??? |
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| gazzer |
I think, with the little bit I know, Mr Rowley should have been allowed to stay at the meeting, But I doubt a trained prison officer and someone who made a citizens arrest of someone who robbed his son at knifepoint would feel humiliated at this. |
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| dexter |
There are currently about 4 topics going, which all revolve around the same issue of local politics....divide and conquer I suppose. Politicians like smoke and mirrors, because the problem eventually goes away! No one is going to be honest about what is really going on, that is the sad thing, but whilst we expect that from our national politicians, local politics should be different. It would be refreshing for someone to have the bottle to stand up and reveal all, but I can't see it happening. I would vote for honesty every time  |
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| AttackDog |
I am a long standing resident of Silsden. I share the concerns and hopes of the Silsden community for the successful future of the village. Those hopes and concerns are generally reflected well by members of Silsden Town Council. I have read with dismay details of the recent Council Meeting, in advance of which the Conservative Councillor Andy Rowley was reportedly asked to leave the Town Hall on the pre-text that his name did not appear on the electoral roll and he was not a member of the Ward. According to The Yorkshire Post, the request that he leave was made by Silsden Mayor, Coun Chris Atkinson, supported by Coun Keith Savage and the decision qualified by Council Clerk, Lesley Corcoran. As far as I am aware there is no legal basis on which Coun Rowley should have been asked to leave the meeting, nor any reason why he may have felt compelled to do so. If Silsden Town Council wished to express the view that he be excluded - on any grounds - it should have done so within the context of the meeting itself. His interest could then have been debated in a democratic process, in public and recorded in Council Meeting Minutes. Instead, by its actions, Silsden Town Council (or perhaps the three named members of the Council) has created a situation in which the Council itself is called into disrepute. Elsewhere on this forum under the topic ‘humiliate’ the thread begins with the illogical but defensive meanderings of its Author, ‘skippy’. This post clearly refers to the Council meeting and suggests the Author was party to the conversation with Coun Rowley. In local government and at town and parish council level, it is inevitable that its machinery is going to be coloured and influenced by party politics. It has been widely documented on this site, in the press and via a leafleting campaign that Conservative Cllr Andrew Naylor is now standing as an Independent following his de-selection by the local Conservative Party. Town Mayor Cllr Atkinson has closely aligned himself with Cllr Naylor. Cllr Naylor’s announcement and his endorsement by Silsden’s Mayor may be the sub-text to the disreputable action taken by Silsden Town Council. Silsden therefore finds itself served by an Independent councillor who despite calls to substantiate why he was deselected by the local Conservative Party, refuses to do so, and a Town Council that appears to be making directives to suit it’s own ends without public consultation or endorsement. This situation is becoming a disgrace and is damaging to the reputation of the village. I am sure that fundamentally Cllr’s Atkinson, Savage and Corcoran have always had Silsden’s best interests at heart, however, their appalling judgement in creating this sorry episode is laid bare. I believe they should reconsider their positions in the interest of Silsden and its residents. |
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| gazzer |
quote Silsden therefore finds itself served by an Independent councillor who despite calls to substantiate why he was deselected by the local Conservative Party, refuses to do so, The local party enforced another candidate before the current Councillor could appeal. I think it is up to the party to say why they did not require the services of Mr Naylor |
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| MBR |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteI am a long standing resident of Silsden. I share the concerns and hopes of the Silsden community for the successful future of the village. Those hopes and concerns are generally reflected well by members of Silsden Town Council. I have read with dismay details of the recent Council Meeting, in advance of which the Conservative Councillor Andy Rowley was reportedly asked to leave the Town Hall on the pre-text that his name did not appear on the electoral roll and he was not a member of the Ward. According to The Yorkshire Post, the request that he leave was made by Silsden Mayor, Coun Chris Atkinson, supported by Coun Keith Savage and the decision qualified by Council Clerk, Lesley Corcoran. As far as I am aware there is no legal basis on which Coun Rowley should have been asked to leave the meeting, nor any reason why he may have felt compelled to do so. If Silsden Town Council wished to express the view that he be excluded - on any grounds - it should have done so within the context of the meeting itself. His interest could then have been debated in a democratic process, in public and recorded in Council Meeting Minutes. Instead, by its actions, Silsden Town Council (or perhaps the three named members of the Council) has created a situation in which the Council itself is called into disrepute. Elsewhere on this forum under the topic ‘humiliate’ the thread begins with the illogical but defensive meanderings of its Author, ‘skippy’. This post clearly refers to the Council meeting and suggests the Author was party to the conversation with Coun Rowley. In local government and at town and parish council level, it is inevitable that its machinery is going to be coloured and influenced by party politics. It has been widely documented on this site, in the press and via a leafleting campaign that Conservative Cllr Andrew Naylor is now standing as an Independent following his de-selection by the local Conservative Party. Town Mayor Cllr Atkinson has closely aligned himself with Cllr Naylor. Cllr Naylor’s announcement and his endorsement by Silsden’s Mayor may be the sub-text to the disreputable action taken by Silsden Town Council. Silsden therefore finds itself served by an Independent councillor who despite calls to substantiate why he was deselected by the local Conservative Party, refuses to do so, and a Town Council that appears to be making directives to suit it’s own ends without public consultation or endorsement. This situation is becoming a disgrace and is damaging to the reputation of the village. I am sure that fundamentally Cllr’s Atkinson, Savage and Corcoran have always had Silsden’s best interests at heart, however, their appalling judgement in creating this sorry episode is laid bare. I believe they should reconsider their positions in the interest of Silsden and its residents. Well put sir!! |
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| jonno |
I think we ought to know why Mr Naylor was de-selected. |
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| Peter |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) No point asking Mr Naylor because he doesn't know. That was why he was appealing the de-selection decision. These are the people you should ask (the people that made the decision) www.kiconservatives.com/people/5 Good luck! PS Note the lack of contact numbers on this page, perhaps they don't want to answer any questions  |
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| jonno |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Peter, your comment about no phone numbers is a wee bit misleading as there are phone numbers to be found on that site, just not on the page you've linked to. There are also email addresses, hence:- quoteIf I get a reply I'll let you know. [edited as the email address failed the first time as it was tagged as office@kiconservatives.com in the hyperlink] |
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| Peter |
jonno, thanks for pointing that out and please let us know the results of your email. Just to qualify my statement quoteI asked Adrian Naylor himself. |
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| AttackDog |
The various posts/threads relating to the May local elections and the recent actions of Silsden Town Council and in particular the views of Town Cllrs Atkinson, Savage and Corcoran have certainly stimulated debate. It is fantastic to see that local people (or at least Silsden.net visitors) are enthusiastic in the interests of their (and my) village. The two most important posts are ‘Things for a prospective town councillor to consider’ and ‘Local elections’ simply because they address and invite comment on how the interests of Silsden and it’s residents may be best served. I will be posting on them soon. Unfortunately both posts/threads are saturated with and distracted by comments on the recent actions of STC/the prospective Party candidates, in particular the Conservative and Independent representatives. Why? The fundamental reason, as I see it, stems from the disgraceful actions of the above-mentioned council members. Many correspondents have quite rightly asked for STC members to issue an open apology to Andy Rowley and invite him to address STC in the normal course of town/parish council procedure. Silsden.net is a valuable, easily accessible forum, but the silence of Silsden Mayor, Deputy Mayor and Town Clerk is deafening. In issuing an apology STC would demonstrate a depth of intelligence, understanding and acknowledgement of the democratic process in which they represent the interests of the people of Silsden. Not to do so will inflict long-term damage on STC’s credibility, the interests of the village and therefore the residents. In the absence of it’s apology, STC will also create a void in it’s relationship with whichever Party is selected in the May elections, if it has not already done so. It has already compromised its relationship with The Conservative representative, Cllr Rowley. It has compromised its relationship with the Independent representative Cllr Naylor despite STC’s apparent endorsement of his objectives. He is not a fool and will not associate himself with controversy unnecessarily. Silsden Town Council reportedly has four membership vacancies. I cannot see how any member of the community would wish to align themselves with STC’s reported opinions, and in particular the undemocratic and possibly illegal actions of three members. I recognise the generally excellent community initiatives undertaken by STC, but they need to issue an apology now to Cllr Rowley if it is to have any chance of convincing Silsden residents, political players and the wider public that it is a serious, representative and democratic organisation capable of acting in a professional manner. |
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| gazzer |
quote The fundamental reason, as I see it, stems from the disgraceful actions of the above-mentioned council members. Many correspondents have quite rightly asked for STC members to issue an open apology to Andy Rowley and invite him to address STC in the normal course of town/parish council procedure. Your missing the point by a country mile.Only one person has been humiliated here and its the sitting Councillor who has been replaced with no reason given. The only apology required is from the local Tory party for its actions!!!! The leader of the local Tories needs to make an appearance to explain what has gone on. End of. |
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| skippy |
jonno have you got a response yet |
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| dexter |
This thread is about Silsden Town Council. and people are cleverly trying to divert the subject on to other things, such as getting a reply from the tory party....nothing to do with it....smoke and mirrors again! Come on skippy, we're not daft!  |
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| localman |
gazzer get real, naylor will know why he was booted out come on every one no matter what happens to anyone in life good or bad if you are honest you know the reason why it happened? and naylor is no different deep down he knows why. |
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| pumbajunior |
Its a guess but id say Adrian probably wasnt going to tow the party line on housing someone who doesnt live here isnt going to care if we get a load of new houses and no upgraded infastructure thats why i think they have parachuted someone new in |
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| gazzer |
quotegazzer get real, naylor will know why he was booted out come on every one no matter what happens to anyone in life good or bad if you are honest you know the reason why it happened? and naylor is no different deep down he knows why. Do you honestly believe if he had done anything wrong the Tories would not be making political gain out of it rather than keeping quiet. And you say I should get real. |
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| gazzer |
quoteIts a guess but id say Adrian probably wasnt going to tow the party line on housing someone who doesnt live here isnt going to care if we get a load of new houses and no upgraded infastructure thats why i think they have parachuted someone new in Good point.If leading lights who back the tories did(but not saying it is fact)stand to make financial gain from land sales then they wouldnt want someone trying to put a spanner in the works. Good theory with the lack of facts. |
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| jonno |
no reply from Kly Conservative assn yet, and to be honest I doubt there will be. |
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| GAMEKEEPER |
Probably too embarrassed by the negative publicity. I've always found that with politicians, if they're seen in a negative light, you won't see them for dust! |
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| skippy |
dexter read the post 4 above yours then you will see i am not trying to do anything other than asking if jonno got an answer but you know as well as i do he wont get one as its not in the tories interest to tell the truth at this moment in time |
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