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Topic : Cycling on Bolton Road |
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| bogrunner |
this post has been edited 3 time(s) After a particularly grim ride home from work tonight, for those who are a bit eager with the horn, or like to try and shave my leg with their wing mirrors, and especially for the ones who wind down the window and start shouting abuse, here's the official line: www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Cycling/DG_10026401 "ride well clear of the kerb - 1 metre away or in the centre of the left lane" If you don't like it, write to the department of transport or your MP, just stop taking it out on me! |
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| greengrass |
Its about time you road RATS have to have an MOT INSURANCE and TAX if you want to share the road with us then share the cost  |
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| bogrunner |
this post has been edited 4 time(s) "Its about time you road RATS have to have an MOT INSURANCE and TAX if you want to share the road with us then share the cost" I pay car tax at 260 quid a year on a car which I don't use much, leaving space for the rest of you, and reducing the wear and tear on the roads. Or did you mean road tax, which was abolished over 60 years ago? ipayroadtax.com I pay plenty of tax thank you very much, as I find out when I look at my pay slips at the end of the month. So I already am sharing the cost. I agree that bikes should have some kind of MOT test & 3rd party insurance. I do have 3rd party bike insurance. All I'm asking you to do is obey the law and stop risking my safety. I don't think that's unreasonable. |
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| jonno |
I will do a deal with you (and your cycling mates). You ride in single file in busy traffic and narrow roads and I won't beep you or try to shave the hairs off your legs as I drive past. One meter out is fine but one meter out with your mate riding a meter out from you is ridiculous and is exactly what I saw several times last sunday. |
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| greengrass |
Your a hazard on the road your not safe your hard to see so its your risk if we get you and press your bike into the tarmac its your fault, cars were here before you so be a good lad keep safe and put your bike back in your loft  |
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| victor |
We were comeing home from Skipton this morning and two of the inconsiderate prats held up the traffic all the way to the roundabout past Randles. |
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| greengrass |
Were have you gone bogrunner have you been knocked off or do you agree with us. Make sure you put them little lights on tonight so we might see you |
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| bogrunner |
this post has been edited 2 time(s) "I will do a deal with you (and your cycling mates). You ride in single file in busy traffic and narrow roads and I won't beep you or try to shave the hairs off your legs as I drive past. One meter out is fine but one meter out with your mate riding a meter out from you is ridiculous and is exactly what I saw several times last sunday." You're on (I already do - I don't go out riding in bloody great groups, I ride to get around, not for fun). "Your a hazard on the road your not safe your hard to see so its your risk if we get you and press your bike into the tarmac its your fault," Crap. I wear loads of hi viz, the bike and me are covered in reflectives and the bike has plenty of lighting. If you don't see me on the road, you're not looking where you're going. "cars were here before you so be a good lad keep safe and put your bike back in your loft" Not true, bikes were around well before cars. I agree there's a lot of dangerous two wheeled ****holes around, but I'm not one of them. I'm keeping my side of the deal, what about you? Victor - I don't get your point, are you saying it's fair enough to drive dangerously because some cyclists are inconsiderate? |
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| greengrass |
Mr bog im sure we would not run you over because there is a load off crap on my van and i doun,t like washing it .You will alwase be at more risk than us so why not stick two fingers up to all white van drivers (me) then we might see you and i can give you a honk. PS I do have a brush and shovel in the back to sweep you up  |
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| Peter |
This is getting out of hand - STOP IT  |
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| bogrunner |
I'd rather give a wave to mean "thanks for not scaring the **** out of me on your way past"  |
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| bogrunner |
No hard feelings greengrass? |
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| greengrass |
None at all wave and ill wave back Peter has jumped in now so its a draw |
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| MBR |
Perhaps if more people got out of their cars and walked or cycled more often then:- A/People (i.e. car drivers) would/may be a little more considerate – forgot the number of times I have seen car driver not stop at the crossing when people / children are waiting!!!!!! B/ a little healthier… In regard to this thread – yes I am a cyclist and ‘yes’ I am also a car driver who pays all his tax’s – the roads aren’t just there for certain loony’s who believe everyone else is a nuisance , roads are ‘public highways’ Let’s all be a little more considerate – and make our roads safer  |
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| Dave |
quote A/People (i.e. car drivers) would/may be a little more considerate – forgot the number of times I have seen car driver not stop at the crossing when people / children are waiting!!!!!! From the highway code; quotePerhaps the cyclists who decided to overtake me last Sunday after I had stopped at a zebra crossing would take note - they nearly knocked a lad over. Perhaps we could all a bit more courteous to other road users (except taxis )www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070108 |
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| dogcatcher |
this post has been edited 3 time(s) i have a bike and also 2 vehicles,but i think the cyclists instructions in the highway code are dated for back in the 50s/60s/70s,big artics and wagons have quadrupled there are 2 to 3 times as many cars on the road now and the rule of being able to ride 2 abreast needs changing,and i would of thought that in todays more and faster moving traffic that cyclists common sense would come in to play and ride single file at the least.as a car driver as well i always give them a wide bearth where poss as i know that gravel and rubbish gathers at the side of the road and cyclists av to avoid this and various grates,other wise they would av punctures all the time.also if cyclists want to be treated as it says in the highway code you should act as,and not over take on the inside ,ride round junction when lights on red or ride on pavements when it suits,common sense is needed all round with all road users.it actually says in the h code ride single file on narrow and BUZY roads??? |
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| greengrass |
Dats my boy doggy you tell Mr bog |
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| dexter |
It shouldn't be too difficult for everyone to show courtesy to all road users. Slow down, a few seconds delay in getting there doesn't make a lot of difference.Everyone is in too much of a hurry. |
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| grandad |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped. Dave please can you explain how pedestrians are supposed to get across the road following the above instructions; Give plenty of time - - - before you start to cross! Traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing? |
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| pumbajunior |
yesterday afternoon on way to work i had 1 clown on a bike at Netto roundabout keighley in middle lane at the lights stays i centre of middle lane all round the roundabout absolute tool i should have bump drafted him |
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| shlozzy |
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| bogrunner |
this post has been edited 2 time(s) ".also if cyclists want to be treated as it says in the highway code you should act as,and not over take on the inside ,ride round junction when lights on red or ride on pavements when it suits,common sense is needed all round with all road users.it actually says in the h code ride single file on narrow and BUZY roads??? " Yes. I agree. Bikes are vehicles, they don't belong on the pavement, and they should obey red lights. Riding single file on busy roads is a no brainer, but there are a lot of cyclists around with no brains. Lots of drivers around with no brains as well. "you should act as" - you mean me? I do - my name was on the 'stop at red' campaign. I don't ever ride on the pavement. I reread the Highway Code every year or two to make sure nothings changed since I last looked and I'm remembering it right. That goes for driving and for cycling. If someone is riding like an idiot you've got a right to complain about them, but you haven't got a right to take it out on someone else. |
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| greengrass |
All bikes should be registered have a number plate on if they use them on the road then when they jump red lights we can report them |
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| bogrunner |
"All bikes should be registered have a number plate on if they use them on the road then when they jump red lights we can report them " No argument from me, I'll happily have a number plate. I'm sick of being blamed for other people acting like idiots. |
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| pumbajunior |
thats always the case bogrunner everyone gets tarred with the same brush for the actions of the minority |
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| bogrunner |
cheers pumbajunior. It's just a bit galling to have people having a go at me and saying it's my own fault when I'm making more effort than most motorists. It does always give me a chuckle when I stop at red lights on my bike and some other cyclist behind me bursts out swearing |
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| old_miner |
So long as the increase in regulation on cyclists is parallel with an increase on car drivers. -annual eye test -retest every 4 years -one big yellow blob front and rear for every point on driver's license and for all cars -automatic speed restrictors -automatic alcohol and drug sensors in every car and of course Stalin or Hitler running the country Grow up - any motorist who cannot safely avoid cyclists should not be driving - simples. |
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| localman |
all cycles on the road should have a bell on by law, I have seen at least three incidents in the last year where they have come out of nowhere riding like mad men and nearly knocked some one down I saw this on bradley road he must have been doing over 40 mile an hour, on skipton road and down bolton road none had bells on but i suppose we will have more speeding cycles on the road now thanks to the fantastic victory in france by bradley wiggins just watched/listened to him on the telly this morning and what a true sportsman and a real winner he is not like those useless overpaid excuses that are are national football team sorry to go off topic. |
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| Bendy |
Ah, so it is you who rides in the middle of the road. Maybe you should think of life preservation and move over instead of quoting the highway code. Every other bike rider I see on the bit of road stays over to the left and allows cars to pass, you seem to think that just because the highway code says leave 1M, then you're right to ride in the middle. Well, what you havent seen is what I've seen in my mirror, i've squeezed past you a couple of times and the car following hasnt been expecting a bike in the middle of the road and has had to swerve to miss you. So forget the highway code, its not a rule book on how to live longer. Do you self a favour and move over! If you do move over, then I for one will come past you a lot friendler and give you the room as I pass, I only cut past you because you force me to! You are actually causing problems for your self by riding in the manner you do. |
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| MATTSKI |
quoteall cycles on the road should have a bell . Not correct, At point of sale new bikes have to be supplied with a bell, whether this is kept on the bike or not is not covered by law |
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| bogrunner |
"Ah, so it is you who rides in the middle of the road. Maybe you should think of life preservation and move over instead of quoting the highway code. Every other bike rider I see on the bit of road stays over to the left and allows cars to pass, you seem to think that just because the highway code says leave 1M, then you're right to ride in the middle." I'm sorry, I think you've misunderstood. I've been riding that route most work days for the last 18 months. To start with I rode much closer to the kerb than I do now but it's just too dangerous. It's Government road safety advice to ride that far out, nothing to do with the highway code. It's nothing to do with demanding my 'rights'. If I ride any closer to the kerb a lot more drivers leave very little room when passing. Riding closer to the kerb also makes bikes much less visible. |
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| Bendy |
Ah sorry, thought it was you by this statement... 'After a particularly grim ride home from work tonight, for those who are a bit eager with the horn, or like to try and shave my leg with their wing mirrors, and especially for the ones who wind down the window and start shouting abuse' There is a bike rider who insists on riding almost half way into the road, I've been 2 or 3 cars back and hear horns and shouting because he refuses to move over. He's also got a horn on his bike and often hoots back at cars. Looks to me like all his problems with other road users are self inflicted, if he was to simply move over a bit and let cars go past then he wouldnt get that abuse. I'm not suggesting he rides in the gutter, just not down the middle of the road. He's not the only cyclist that rides that road, but I've not seen any other cycling ride that far into the road..... EVER! |
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| old_miner |
Trouble is the edge of the road is more likely to be parked cars than a curb. Therefore a cyclist is often forced into the middle of the road by parked cars. If the cars are intermittent it makes sense to line up to pass the next one rather than weaving in an out all the time. |
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| bogrunner |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Oh yes, that's me alright. But I'm riding well out into the road (about a metre - I've checked) because that's what the department of transport recommends for road safety. I've tried riding closer to the kerb, and more cars pass much closer. It's damn scary, that's why I looked up the government safety advice in the first place. Yes, I do have a horn, and I do hoot back. You may well not have seen anyone else ride that far out into the road - most cyclists don't seem too bothered about learning to ride properly, as many others have commented. " if he was to simply move over a bit and let cars go past then he wouldnt get that abuse" I've tried - all that happens is more cars pass closer and faster. That's why the department of transport advice is to stay well out into the road. |
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| localman |
the point I was making was ALL cycles should have a bell it was hypothetical only an idea. |
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| bogrunner |
Don't know if it was coincidence or not that my journey home was much nicer than a usual monday. Doesn't really matter, what I should have said earlier and want to say now is *thank you* to all the drivers (a large majority I might add) who drive courteously and safely around me and other cyclists. |
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