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gazzer
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08/10/2006 : 22:40:24      reply with quote


Keighley Road from below Belton Road to the roundabout.Is it dangerous?.Bradford Council are wasting money lowering the speed limit to 40mph.
When Belton Rd was built they moved the 30mph 150yards towards Steeton(to Steeton side of Belton Rd) which was sensible.But there are no accidents on this section as a rule in fact many a time you cant go faster than 20mph.
So they will spend money on this section of road but ignore Bell Sq where someone will be killed on day
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09/10/2006 : 10:31:58      reply with quote


don,t you think that the proposed housing development could have something to do with Brad Met lowering the speed limit because that is going to cause yet another dangerous junction and cause more traffic jams
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10/10/2006 : 13:53:34      reply with quote


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don,t you think that the proposed housing development could have something to do with Brad Met lowering the speed limit because that is going to cause yet another dangerous junction and cause more traffic jams
Don't be silly, are you suggesting that Bradford Council are thinking ahead. Then again, are you suggesting they are thinking......
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HB
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11/10/2006 : 13:35:51      reply with quote


they are thinking ahead..... money is involved... new houses more council tax.

they will not think ahead if they arnt going to get anything out of it!
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gazzer
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11/10/2006 : 17:27:34      reply with quote


So the why bother with a meeting the new houses will be built...Sewer works and new speed limit its a done deal
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HB
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12/10/2006 : 10:17:09      reply with quote


yep
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grandad
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13/10/2006 : 20:32:24      reply with quote


What is wrong with the 40 mph limmit?
Yes there has been a death on this stretch of road.
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gazzer
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13/10/2006 : 22:55:02      reply with quote


Accept that there was an unfortunate accident but its not sufficient reason.Its some jobs worth working for the council justifying there job.Its easy and looks like they are doing something.Lets get the accident blackspots sorted first not just the easiest jobs
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13/10/2006 : 23:20:46      reply with quote


Has anyone thought that it's not safe to do over 40mph on this SHORT stretch of road?

Are we saying that 60mph is a sensible speed limit? Not in my opinion.

For once Bradford got it right!
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gazzer
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14/10/2006 : 00:33:19      reply with quote


I think given the right conditions 60mph is safe.The law doesnt say you must drive at 60 but if safe to do so then you may.
You can use the same argument for any road.We should sort out the blackspots first surely
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gazzer
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14/10/2006 : 00:36:51      reply with quote


Wasnt the bad crash on the 30mph limit.Since the new road opened there hasnt been a bad crash on the river bridge.
We should ban lorries from this road though.Imagine what this road and the road through Cross Hills will be like if they make the M62 a toll road
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14/10/2006 : 10:04:55      reply with quote


Never mind reducing the speed limit to 40mph, what about a Pelican crossing at the 1st zebra crossing (Bridge side). Have you tried crossing this crossing at school time, how none of the school children haven't been killed is more luck than management. Vehicles come flying over the bridge and straight through the crossing, and look at you as if it's your fault.What happened to the crossing patrol ladies/gents? Don't tell me it's too dangerous. I know Addingham Primary school have the same problem they can't have a crossing outside their school ( Harrogate rat run - 1 fatality) as they already have 1 pelican in the main street and 3 crossing patrols in the main st. Bolton Road is deemed too dangerous for a crossing patrol...yet it's ok for 4 & 5 year olds to try and cross the road....work that one out. I know we have 3 Zebra crossings but not much use if cars don't know what they are!
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alan
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14/10/2006 : 16:46:41      reply with quote


If it was up to me I'd reduce the speed limit to 20mph in ALL the built up areas of Silsden and put a few speed cameras in.
That way we'd soon be able to pay for the crossings out of the money we'd make!
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chaz
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15/10/2006 : 21:17:55      reply with quote


say what you want about the new speed limit ,but if silsden as a community had asked for it we wouldnt have got it its only been reduced because of the proposed development and what bradford has to gain from it
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grandad
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18/10/2006 : 16:30:11      reply with quote


The 40MPH limit would have been of more use to anyone wishing to get across the AVT on foot if it had continued all the way over to meet up with the 30MPH limit on Station Road Steeton, thus slowing the traffic down on the trunk road.
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19/10/2006 : 08:53:45      reply with quote


Grandad are you suggesting the speed limit on the Aire Valley Trunk road should be reduced to 40mph?

The only safe way to cross the AVT road is in a vehicle (at the moment) and a lower speed limit would not sort the problem out - pedestrians and traffic do not mix and especially when the taffic is approaching, or departing, a roundabout when the driver is propably more concerned at what is happening all around rather than just at the front.

For pedestrians to cross the AVT road safely we need a pedestrian bridge or underpass.... and why do we need to cross the AVT road ... because the public transport cannot meet the trains.

The bus very often departs from the station bus stop a few minutes before the train arrives - the trains are usually on time so why can't the bus timetable be changed the meet the trains?

And on the subject of the proposed 40mph limit to the Silsden/Steeton roundabout, when was the last time it was possible to drive down the road any faster? Rather than pollute the landscape with more attention diverting signs it would be better to put the money into widening the pavement and thus narrowing the road along this stretch of road. Of course the parking on the side of the road would have to be prevented ... but isn't this a potential cause of accidents along this stretch of road?
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alan
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19/10/2006 : 10:58:26      reply with quote


Fred - I agree one hundred percent. Sound commonsense!
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wahiba
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02/11/2006 : 15:11:44      reply with quote


I have been passed down that bit. Mind you, there seem to be some people that just want to pass everything in front of them. Getting less as a lot end up dead.

I always travel at 20mph through Silsden. Especially if there is someone sat up my backside. I also let everyone pull out, especially coming out from Clog Bridge as I am possibly returning a favour in that case.
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07/12/2006 : 14:43:46      reply with quote



Why not remove all the homes--waterside and all those built since 1970 and put the bypass where it was supposed to have been built--problems solved, all outsiders gone , no traffic, brillient

STOP MOANING OR MOVE ITS SIMPLE
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07/12/2006 : 15:17:34      reply with quote


Oh and before I get lambasted , I have nothing against outsiders, what gets me (and many others) is they move here and complain , whinge, interfere and treat locals as undereducated bumpkins to look down on and treat with distain

So no complaints please , just take a long hard look at your selves
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alan
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07/12/2006 : 16:24:49      reply with quote


11 out of 12 on the town council are offcumdens!

What does that say? happy :)
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08/12/2006 : 19:39:32      reply with quote


Fred, I was suggesting that the section around the roundabout and a little way either side should be a 40 limit.
Before you say that it can't be done, go and look at the section between the beechcliffe end of the AVTR and where it changes back to a 70 limit just past Marly statium, it goes as so, 30,40,30,50.30, then 70 all in the space of 500yards.
As for an underpass to get to the railway station! I hope you plan on giving free diving lessons for anyone who wants to use it, it is flooded for a lot of the year. No! a footbrige with a ramp is the only answer. What happened to the one that used to go over the A650 a Nabwood? with a litte extention to the middle it would have been perfect for our job. bet they scrapped it.
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09/12/2006 : 22:23:48      reply with quote


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Oh and before I get lambasted , I have nothing against outsiders, what gets me (and many others) is they move here and complain , whinge, interfere and treat locals as undereducated bumpkins to look down on and treat with distain

So no complaints please , just take a long hard look at your selves

and what about the long termers that actually live on that side of Silsden and have done for a very long time and now live in Waterside

Just because the houses are old doesn't mean you have lived there a while

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alan
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10/12/2006 : 09:37:21      reply with quote


What "cobbydale lad" forgets or ignores is that most of the offcumdens live here by choice!

I do and if I didn't like it would leave! It's just a pity that everybody doesn't appreciate what they've got in this great little town!
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10/12/2006 : 10:55:33      reply with quote


As Silsden in mentioned in the Doomsday book, so must have been a settlement before 1066, then I suspect that 'offcumdens' have been arriving continuously.

I doubt if many of the locals are as local as they think. Many 'local' surnames are actually from the border Reivers. No doubt they raided this far south and decided to stay. There must have been big influxes with lead mining and the building of the canal.
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clogger
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10/12/2006 : 16:14:11      reply with quote


I must say

If given a choice between an Offcumden or my auntie also being my sister. I know which i would favour
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wahiba
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10/12/2006 : 18:34:32      reply with quote


Which probably proves something - not sure what though!
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alan
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10/12/2006 : 19:50:13      reply with quote


Not sure what all this has to do with the Keighley Road speed limit though!
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gazzer
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10/12/2006 : 22:42:55      reply with quote


Someone said there will be plenty of double yellow lines going down aswell.That will hit parking for football/cricket clubs and car boot sales.
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10/12/2006 : 22:46:23      reply with quote


Im all for private companies doing council work if it saves money and gets a decent job done.
The sign says the work is done by Bradford Council & Balfour Beattie.But the vehicles used have North Yorkshire County Council on the side.
Its shocking if Bradford cant do it themselves cheaper than the arrangemet in place
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wahiba
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11/12/2006 : 09:10:48      reply with quote


Double Yellow Lines - all the way from the trunk road roundabout to Cringles I hope.

On the topic of contractors and council work.

In the days of yore when Silsden had its own council and was no doubt responsible for some road up keep it is likely that most of this work was done by local contractors, Silsden being to small to have its own works department. Of course, they would probably have been local companies and so would get any feedback on problems very quickly.

Of course I might be wrong. Does anyone know?
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11/12/2006 : 14:52:02      reply with quote


with a bit of luck the reduced speed limit & the island that is being installed currently will discourage HGV traffic from using silsden as a run-through to get from the aire valley to the A65
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11/12/2006 : 20:53:56      reply with quote


I think our firm worked as contractors for Silsden UDC.When I started we worked for Bradford Council.A change of leadership at Bradford Council saw a socialist agenda.This meant the establishment of a Direct Works organisation.The council set our rate which at that time was £5 per hour.The Direct Works organisation charged the housing department £7-50.And they hired all their vehicles from the cleansing department which was an extra charge.
Internal charging.Keeps people in jobs
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cobbydale lad
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01/01/2007 : 22:20:42      reply with quote



Like I said you all stick your noes's in, moan and gripe
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alan
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02/01/2007 : 09:55:13      reply with quote


I think you need those chips off your shoulder "cobbydale lad" most of the offcumdens who moved here do so because they want to live in Silsden, and stay because they choose too!

Some are even foolish enough to want to make a contribution to the local community!

We have a great town with great people - cobbydalers or offcumdens there's no difference!
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02/01/2007 : 21:30:20      reply with quote


Wouldn't it be a good idea if a large keep left sign was on the outgoing carrageway of the new island on Keighley Road (as well as the incoming carrageway)? Someone will be crossing the road and get wiped out where a car mounts the new curb. The crossing is just after a bend and there is the distraction of a junction just before it.

Pedestrians BEWARE!
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