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| fatty |
are there any out there that are as disgusted as me regarding the riots? I think water cannons should be used. We are probably the only country in the world that has to have a mamby pamby approach!! Come on with some thoughts |
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| jonno |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) for blatant looters and rioters they should be shooting them with those beanbag bullets, it's like getting punched by mike tyson! EDIT: maybe not, it seems around 1 person a year dies from being shot with a bean bag "round". Well water cannons then! |
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| fatty |
Quite truely it is making me feel sick that our country has brought up these hooligans and without getting political I bet these kids are all getting dole (paid by us) |
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| localman |
they should put out on the news than any one arrested and charged with rioting. looting or arson will be jailed for a minimum of ten years that will clear the streets this has nothing to do with cuts or anything political so do not come on saying it due to there local youth club closing  its in the main black gangs who have seen an opportunity and jumped on it when every goes back to normal they will resume stabbing each other  |
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| Cobbydale fruits |
Did you know silsden had its very own riot around 110 years ago because of a policeman being being attacked.... Type in silsden riot on Google.... |
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| Golden Oldie |
I have watched the news channel this morning, can't believe what is happening in this country. When asked by an interviewer this morning if water cannons would be brought in, Teresa May replied quite catagorically, "NO, we do not police here as they do in France". Well, I'm sorry Teresa, but our system of policing isn't working, is it? That is in no way calling our brave young men and women that choose to have a career in the Constabulary, they are probably just as fed up as Joe Public of all the pussy footing the powers that be do. |
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| ginjo |
a senior police officer was saying that we do not have water cannon in this country so that is not an option for the immediate problem.He said that if we do go down that route, cannon would have to be bought and then officers trained in how to use them.I think a curfew would be a good idea, but the powers that be do not want to use that either.They are appealing for parents to keep their kids indoors tonight,as if that will work, the parents are as bad as the kids in a lot of cases.I do think that the people who have taken part in this should be made to clean it all up before being locked up for a long time.Where are they going to put them all, there are so many, the cells are full in all police stations in the london area and prisons are overflowing.It is so depressing I do not know what the answer is. |
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| Cobydaler |
"I do not know what the answer is. " Do exactly the same as they would in the USA . Bring in the armed response units , warm em , & if they still want to steel from shops & house's , shoot em . Not even bothered what age they are , if they don,t care about society why should society care about them . |
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| localman |
the BNP and EDL must be loving this those mugs in london and some other cities are playing into there hands, in september in london there is going to be a EDL march this has just got them thousands of more supporters who will be marching  from little acorns large oak trees grow |
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| fatty |
just watched tv and did anyone see the youth that was injured and some hoodies went to help him and blatently took things out of his rucksac , lowest of the low and these b... are growing up into what??? |
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| babba100 |
I blame the press as much as the rioters.... they seem to fuel things rather than highlight how unnaceptable this rioting is... I really hope the press back off from the story that 'he didnt shoot at the police' and focus more on as to why he was shot. I certainly dont own a hand gun, or involved in gangs... so my risk of being shot by police is low.... simple... he acted all gangsta and played with fire and he got shot. should be a message to all the other 'wanna-be-gangsters'...  |
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| old_miner |
We are all to blame. We want cheap 'stuff' so buy it in from abroad when it is made very cheaply. Must be slave labour judging by some of the prices. If we were willing to pay more we could make it here, as we used to do. This would create a lot of employment and so reduce the likelihood of a dis-affected underclass. We do not want to pay taxes which pay for the service to control and educate the underclass. How many of those firms hit by the rioters actually have much of a training programmed? A lot, like Tescos, are no doubt heavily into tax dodging. When you have people earning £6/hour living next to those making £600/hour and much more then it is no wonder some people get a bit dejected. These riots are just a symptom of economic changes taking place, the consequences of which have not really been sorted. Cheap labour only exists because the world is not economically equal. Consequently trade is very lopsided. Before all the Mail and Express reading righteous brigade have their say: I am not making excuses, just some analysis from observing, and reading a bit of history. It as all happened before and will no doubt happen again. But think. Next time you buy a shirt in M&S for £10 made in Sri-Lanka if you had been prepared to pay £50 it might still have been made in Leeds! |
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| gazzer |
quoteWe are all to blame. We want cheap 'stuff' so buy it in from abroad when it is made very cheaply. Must be slave labour judging by some of the prices. If we were willing to pay more we could make it here, as we used to do. This would create a lot of employment and so reduce the likelihood of a dis-affected underclass. We do not want to pay taxes which pay for the service to control and educate the underclass. How many of those firms hit by the rioters actually have much of a training programmed? A lot, like Tescos, are no doubt heavily into tax dodging. When you have people earning £6/hour living next to those making £600/hour and much more then it is no wonder some people get a bit dejected. These riots are just a symptom of economic changes taking place, the consequences of which have not really been sorted. Cheap labour only exists because the world is not economically equal. Consequently trade is very lopsided. Before all the Mail and Express reading righteous brigade have their say: I am not making excuses, just some analysis from observing, and reading a bit of history. It as all happened before and will no doubt happen again. But think. Next time you buy a shirt in M&S for £10 made in Sri-Lanka if you had been prepared to pay £50 it might still have been made in Leeds! Its not about money its about personal greed. If they all had jobs they would still want more. If these people were looting Tesco for milk and bread your argument would stand up. But these people on TV looting, look to have the latest fashions and latest mobile phones yet these items seem to be their chosen loot. |
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| hermione fraggle |
I was brought up on a sink hole estate and I turned out OK. I think a lot of it is attitude and determination to make something of yourself. A lot of wokring class (I use that term loosely as there are a lot who come form families who do not or have ever had jobs) these days feel like scoiety owes them. And the go around with a chip on there shoulder which leads to criminality, they want what they can't have and are not prepared to work for it. My parents always worked and encouraged me and my brother to work to our full potential at school and acheive whatever we wanted to do. I amy not be rich but I was the first in my family to go to university I have a decent job and own a house and a brand new car. All these rioters need to look at themselves and work out how they can legally improve their lives and situations. We would have never gotten away with this kind of rabal rousing, our parents would have come and dragged us home by the hair and given us the hiding of our lives. |
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| bandnwire |
In cases like this use of the Riot Act would certainly solve the problem. Just read about the Peterloo Massacre. |
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| localman |
here we go people already sticking up for these scum b-----S its not there fault it because we buy clothes from primark what an idiot  look at them most are black and are in gangs they would not take a job if you offered it to them on a plate there are loads of white people all over the country without jobs are they out burning, robbing and looting NO NO NO if I hear any more of this crap I am going on the next EDL march. |
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| old_miner |
quoteI was brought up on a sink hole estate and I turned out OK. I think a lot of it is attitude and determination to make something of yourself. A lot of working class (I use that term loosely as there are a lot who come form families who do not or have ever had jobs) these days feel like society owes them. And the go around with a chip on there shoulder which leads to criminality, they want what they can't have and are not prepared to work for it. My parents always worked and encouraged me and my brother to work to our full potential at school and achieve whatever we wanted to do. I may not be rich but I was the first in my family to go to university I have a decent job and own a house and a brand new car. All these rioters need to look at themselves and work out how they can legally improve their lives and situations. We would have never gotten away with this kind of rabble rousing, our parents would have come and dragged us home by the hair and given us the hiding of our lives. But why to some break out of the circle of deprivation while others just go around and around. Unfortunately our current society feeds the latter with the cult of personality, easy money for playing a game or even just looking good. Life is unfair - but why do some of us move through and above it while others just go off the rails? Maybe it is the genes as some very recent research suggests. Maybe society will only improve when those with the bad genes are culled? Maybe I have been reading to much science fiction? |
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| localman |
milwall, spurs, west hame football firms out protecting there areas no sign of any looters now because these lads will sort them out not like the police  a lot chanting EDL english defence league I am starting to like the EDL they have got bottle. |
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| Fred |
... and they walk amongst us... be afraid, very afraid. |
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| old_miner |
These riots have been stated as the worst for 30 years! 30 years ago was the early 1980s, and I think there were some bad riots then. Also except for a few local wannabes it is all down south and we all know that as far as the press is concerned the world ends at the Watford Gap. |
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| localman |
these poor people do not have jobs and the cuts are hurting them (labour party line )now the sad truth is coming out, in court yesterday Alxis Bailey 31 years old a Primary school learning mentor arrested in side a electrical store looting goods well he may have a case now as he is now a sacked black out of work common thief what an example to the kids he was involved with |
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| JeanD |
Heard today a Millionaires daughter has been in court for shop lifting, anyone else heard that |
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| Peter |
This is an interesting page on the BBC website Note of the people arrested 76% have been charged with burglary and 70% didn't live in the area where the crime was committed. THE PAGE www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14489984 |
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| babba100 |
Yes Jean i heard that too.... people of ALL races and back-grounds have been involved in rioting and looting.... It says more about morals than it does about anything else..... |
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| localman |
rich, in work, where are the poor and homeless the ones that the labour party say are right to riot due to the cuts? talk about egg on there stupid faces they should have kept there gobs shut untill the court cases started so what excuses now do gooders simple fact there were all scum, soon as the word went out that football firms were going to attack them they soon cleared off |
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| old_miner |
Well, well, well. See all the Hooray Henry's mates are hard at posting away. Seems like a few of their bankers mates did not get enough screwing our banks and now they are having to pinch stuff out of Poundland!!! Rioters are obviously not labour intelligentsia because they ignored the book stores. So the they must be right wing thickoes. Brains are obviously in their feet as they went for trainers from JD Sports as the biggest target. |
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| gazzer |
quotemilwall, spurs, west hame football firms out protecting there areas no sign of any looters now Talking of Spurs I just heard something on the news the other night but only caught the last bit. Is it true they have signed a new centre forward called Grabatelli |
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| Tom Day |
The biggest looters are the nasty and swarmy financial people in London. We are all suffering from their blatant money grabbing. Why don't you all redirect your anger to those sneaky clever manipulators in that square mile. They are the real crooks and have got away free again. Ask our mp what he thinks. He will have a handle on all that being a Tory. A cynical friend tonight suggested the far right were behind all this trouble and sponsored by David Cameron and Teressa May so as to get out of their dreadful family holidays early. Silly me. How could I contemplate such rot. |
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| fatty |
having watched what has been going all week I have come to this conclusion!!! I DO NOT Condone what these youths and adults have done with the looting and destroying buildings, but I think the parents have a lot to answere for. Mostly seem to be from single parents who have not been brought up with the standards we were. Secondly I feel sick at times when I hear how much FOOTBALLERS are being paid I find it quite obscene so can you imagine how these youths feel if I feel like that. Just another angle. |
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| localman |
tom can not understand why you have not moved to cuba yet, can tell you this I am really enjoying seeing these scum bags sent down their future careers in tatters anyway these common thieves now have time to think about was that telly or pair of trainers really worth this? as for most rich people they get there with hard work not sitting at home on there fat arse waiting for the world to give them something |
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| old_miner |
quote .....A cynical friend tonight suggested the far right were behind all this trouble and sponsored by David Cameron and Teressa May so as to get out of their dreadful family holidays early. Silly me. How could I contemplate such rot. Actually I though all the hangem, drawem and quaterem crap coming out of the hooray henries was because they had been dragged away from their rich pads in the sun. Remember this lot have cheap Polish nannies to keep the kids quiet. |
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| localman |
the far right really needs to get a grip of this country, before world war two we had loads of these bleeding heart liberals and we saw what happened there now we have bleeding heart liberals, the pc brigade, the multi culture labour idiots so poor little ethnic no daddy, can not get a job because the poor soul can not read or write can not speak english but is an expert at screwing benefits out of all us not the rich who go out to work every day and pay our way we need to eradicate the places they live like you would do with rats they are nothing but vermine |
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| Tom Day |
quote quoteWe are all to blame. We want cheap 'stuff' so buy it in from abroad when it is made very cheaply. Must be slave labour judging by some of the prices. If we were willing to pay more we could make it here, as we used to do. This would create a lot of employment and so reduce the likelihood of a dis-affected underclass. We do not want to pay taxes which pay for the service to control and educate the underclass. How many of those firms hit by the rioters actually have much of a training programmed? A lot, like Tescos, are no doubt heavily into tax dodging. When you have people earning £6/hour living next to those making £600/hour and much more then it is no wonder some people get a bit dejected. These riots are just a symptom of economic changes taking place, the consequences of which have not really been sorted. Cheap labour only exists because the world is not economically equal. Consequently trade is very lopsided. Before all the Mail and Express reading righteous brigade have their say: I am not making excuses, just some analysis from observing, and reading a bit of history. It as all happened before and will no doubt happen again. But think. Next time you buy a shirt in M&S for £10 made in Sri-Lanka if you had been prepared to pay £50 it might still have been made in Leeds! Its not about money its about personal greed. If they all had jobs they would still want more. If these people were looting Tesco for milk and bread your argument would stand up. But these people on TV looting, look to have the latest fashions and latest mobile phones yet these items seem to be their chosen loot. |
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| Golden Oldie |
'fraid I agree with you Tom, and as for the £10 shirts in M&S, have yet to find them!!! |
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| old_miner |
Polo Shirts £7 Self esteem is of far higher priority to most people than money. Low self esteem often exhibits itself in criminal behaviour. hence the priority target was JJB (their products evidently enhance esteem - God only know why!) - while Waterstones was ignored - (Books, low esteem and maybe there is a clue there to what needs to be done) |
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| localman |
so old minor low self esteem is the reason for criminal behaviour? so bankers rob us, MP's screw the system, police take bribes, newspapers hack phones, so your excuse now is low self esteem what a load of horse shit most human beings in some point of there lives suffer from low self esteem i.e miss out on a job, loose a wife or girlfriend this list goes on but they do not go out and commit crimes stop making excuses for no marks WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE THEY ARE ALL SCUMBAGS |
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