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hat
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17/02/2011 : 11:00:39      reply with quote


can't believe this hasn't been picked up in here yet

www.keighleynews.co.uk/news/8859180.Concern_over_waste_treatment_site_plans/
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17/02/2011 : 13:16:01      reply with quote


This is the document which should be readwww.bradford.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/7F38F700-FE31-45CD-809A-0CF5B8E1DAAA/0/SiteAssessmentDocumentPOPublicationVersion2.pdf

It's on the Bradmet site
www.bradford.gov.uk/bmdc/the_environment/planning_service/local_development_framework/bradford_waste_development_plan

and you might find these pictures useful (let me know if you need the originals). The land where they want to build the waste disposal site is the one where the horse is!
www.silsden.net/pictures/floods_jan2008/index3.htm

I hope the proposed use isn't a smelly process, or all of Silsden will get the benefit as the site is downwind of most of Silsden!

Site Considered Suitable for – Mechanical Biological Treatment,
Clean Material Reclamation and Pyrolysis and Gasification.

Ref Mechanical Biological Treatment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_biological_treatment

Ref Crean Material Reclamation en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materials_recovery_facility

Ref Gasification en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasification

Ref Pyrolysis en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolysis

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Peter
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17/02/2011 : 13:58:05      reply with quote


...and this is where Bradford want to build a Waste Treatment Site For Silsden (the Ecology Building Society is in the background)



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17/02/2011 : 15:25:22      reply with quote


this criteria from the site assessment could be a saver: potential abnormal costs associated with development on the site could be significant

presumably this is due to the need for the flood protection wall which has been given permission -
the worry with that is that it would only extend to the length of the site & below the old bridge the flooding would potentially be worse due to chanelling of the water
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grandson
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17/02/2011 : 17:50:36      reply with quote


Wow, that stinks, literally!
I thought that a lot of those fields were green belt?
I didn't know waste disposal sites could be placed so close to a residential area?
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18/02/2011 : 07:45:28      reply with quote


I live in the houses just up from from that site, and I cannot beleive there has been no public consultation about this. I know it has to go somewhere but is extremely close to quite a number of houses. Plus of course it is going to bring us lost more traffic on an already congested road.
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18/02/2011 : 09:28:34      reply with quote


Quote from the Keighley News

Andrew Marshall, Bradford’s Local Development Framework strategy manager, said: “The ‘preferred approach’ public consultation for the Waste Management Development Plan began on January 21 and ends on April 1.

“There are a number of opportunities the public can use to voice their opinion and the information is set out in detail on the local development pages on the Bradford Council website. In addition, copies of the plan are available at main public libraries and planning offices throughout the district.

“We will be arranging drop-in sessions at Silsden Town Hall between 1pm and 7pm on Tuesday March 8, and in Temple Row, Keighley, on Friday March 4 between noon and 6pm, to discuss issues relating to the area.”

Comments must be e-mailed to ldf.consultation@bradford.gov.uk by Friday, April 1.

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Please refer to the links in previous posts, in this thread, for more information.happy :)
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18/02/2011 : 11:33:23      reply with quote


from what I understand from reading the article, silsden is just one of many suggested sites that has been shortlisted, it does not neccessarily mean that we will get it, there are other more suitable sites in the shortlist.We need to be vigilant and make sure objections are submitted.
By the way does anyone know who owns the land ? I always feel really sorry for those horses, I am not sure they are looked after properly
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18/02/2011 : 12:32:53      reply with quote


Don't feel sorry for the horses. They are beautifully looked after by the man that owns them. If you pass early morning, Bess is standing at the fence gazing up the main road,waiting for her dad to feed her, again in the afternoon.
Just because this weather they are clarted up with muck, don't think they are neglected, they aren't, far from it.
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hermione fraggle
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18/02/2011 : 12:52:52      reply with quote


Thank you Peter for the information.

Also on a side note that horse is very well attended to. Living a few doors away from the field I very often see someone feeding and taking care of it. And the horse looks in good condition apart from the seasonal thick coat and a bit of mud.
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muriel
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18/02/2011 : 15:16:29      reply with quote


i was lead to believe that Habasit own some/all of the field
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grandad
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18/02/2011 : 20:00:51      reply with quote


When the industrial site was proposed it was classed as a gateway site, that is why Marsel house had to change the colour of their roof. What will a waste plant do for the gateway into Silsden?
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19/02/2011 : 09:31:56      reply with quote


this post has been edited 1 time(s)

As everyone knows because Silsden is on the edge of Bradford it gets a raw deal from the council and has done from the day Silsden UDC was replaced.
Heres a quote from todays T&A from Bradfords Council leader talking about the councils spending plans;

"Coun Greenwood said: “The city centre clearly is massively important for all of us. It’s our front door and we need to make sure our front door is painted properly.”

Silsden is teated as the back door
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Golden Oldie
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19/02/2011 : 13:21:48      reply with quote


Don't know about "painting" the door, it needs a bomb under it. (metaphorically speaking.)Do these people suffer from rose coloured glasses syndrome?
As for a waste treatment plant, what an entrance that would make to our lovely little town.
Isn't there a spare plot of land approaching either Addingham or Ilkley???? I think not. Sorry, being sarky now.
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20/02/2011 : 13:42:52      reply with quote


Here we go again. We wont win this!!! Green belt can be changed at the drop of a hat (or a few pounds in the right place) We know from the land down Sykes Lane, one minute it is Green Belt, then SOMEONE with money comes along and all of a sudden its BROWN. Again we wont win.
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23/02/2011 : 16:09:35      reply with quote


Having just looked at the info site on this subject, I can't believe how anyone could inflict such a monstrous eyesore on the main road through Silsden, plus all the comings and goings that will happen.Surely something of that nature should be hidden from general view?
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23/02/2011 : 16:23:32      reply with quote


We need to do everything we can to stop this.

Here is a link to a summary produced by angryDerbyshire which explains all the types of waste plants and their impacts and considerations that are required to be taken - this detail is NOT in the Bradford proposal. Take a look - we need this type of information to make the appropriate objections:
www.derbyshire.gov.uk/images/Types%20of%20Waste%20Facility%20_Version%202.0__tcm9-21909.pdf
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23/02/2011 : 16:50:55      reply with quote


Typical of Bradford Met in their far away town hall.

Why don't they go for the hat-trick of descimating local villages and build one in Addingham and Ilkley!!
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23/02/2011 : 17:21:14      reply with quote


nimbys ,stop putting your rubbish in your wheely bin if you dont want it to be tipped. its got to go somewere. these facilaties have to be somewere so industrial sites are used not greenbelt or houseing sites.this land is between 2 factories and adjoining an INDUSTRIAL estate. i would like to know how many folks moaning were born n bred here or moved in and try to pull up the drawbridge now they are heresad :(
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23/02/2011 : 17:24:11      reply with quote


We all produce waste, but only think about it when the processing of said waste might take place near us, rather than near somebody else.
What makes everyone feel that they have no responsibility, ie accepting a waste disposal plant, for the waste they produce?
One of the options is a power plant producing energy from the waste. What is wrong with that?
The land is obviously zonned for industrial use. Waste processing is industrial.
Stop whinging and accept that we all have responsibilities towards our society. Part of that responsibility is taking the rough with the smooth.

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23/02/2011 : 18:20:19      reply with quote


It does not make any differance where you were born and bred if you live here you have every right to say you dont want this in silsden,my vote is that it is a realy dumb place to site it, and no i was born in another part of yorkshie.
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23/02/2011 : 18:33:12      reply with quote


this post has been edited 1 time(s)

Before commenting I would urge you all to read this document first. Page 27 and page 28

www.bradford.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/7F38F700-FE31-45CD-809A-0CF5B8E1DAAA/0/SiteAssessmentDocumentPOPublicationVersion2.pdf

The waste has to go somewhere but this site in my view is unsuitable.

1. It's an area which floods and a flood barrier would have to be built around the site. sad :(
2. If the site did flood waste would go into the Aire. How environmentally friendly is that? sad :(
3. Part of the process proposed involves the heat treatment of waste. Not sure what is involved but the area is upwind of most of Silsden - nice sad :(sad :(
4. There must be more suitable sites than purchasing a green field which is plainly unsuitable, apart from the easy access from the Aire Valley. sad :(
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23/02/2011 : 18:54:44      reply with quote


I dont think we have too much too worry about. There are some significant RED marks with costs attached. Its in a flood zone too. That would cause major problems for a very large are down stream, if it flooded. It would however give a few people a job and I might be able to sell some products too. Much rather have a quarry !!!!!!!!!!!!
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skippy
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23/02/2011 : 20:32:03      reply with quote


if everybody did some homework re smell and flooding or pollution they may even see that such propals are the futurewink ;)nimbys i hate razz :prazz :prazz :p
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Peter
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23/02/2011 : 21:00:24      reply with quote


Skippy, tell us what all this means:

Site Considered Suitable for – Mechanical Biological Treatment,Clean Material Reclamation and Pyrolysis and Gasification.
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23/02/2011 : 21:35:59      reply with quote


www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8709206.Bowling_area__becoming_a_dumping_ground__fears/

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/local/localbrad/8865890.Families_hit_out__at____awful____smells/
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23/02/2011 : 23:02:36      reply with quote


I doubt it will end up there but it raises a serious issue. We all need to recycle more, we shouldn't have to be forced by councils charging for the green wheelie bins (maybe they should have gone through with this).
It's easier than ever to recycle, nearly every supermarket has recycling bins so it is easy to drop off rubbish when you shop.
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24/02/2011 : 21:40:05      reply with quote


When I was a kid in Silsden the waste treatment and garbage dumb was just a couple of fields down next to the river, found many a good push iron on't tip.
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27/02/2011 : 15:54:35      reply with quote


In answer to the question of what is meant by these types of sites, Derbyshire Council website has written an analysis for the same reason- the three types include the need and impact of:

150 - 200 HGVs per day
24 hour working
Odours, smells and fumes that affect 'significant receptors' (people, surroundings etc) and so should not be built within 250 metres of housing
Noise
Effect on the general environment/appearance - so should be built on industrial land or sites away from buildings.

Consequently, this proposal would be dreadful for Silsden - it would affect the appearing coming into Silsden, could contaminate the river as on a water course, the site is subject to flooding, it would affect the conservation area, the traffic coming through Silsden and/or backing up to the bypass would cause extreme disruption, the fumes could affect the significant receptors nearby (the site is less than 150 yards from housing.

Please everyone make your views known at the 'drop in session' and keep vigilant for any further proposals.
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27/02/2011 : 20:44:06      reply with quote


On our last visit to the recycling tip at Keighley, I noticed that so many of the buildings along the road appear to be empty. Surely it would be far more logical to site any new plant ajoining an already functioning waste disposal area. Or is this a too simple option?? Or haven't the clipboard and pen pushers noted the empty industrial sites.
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03/03/2011 : 22:10:26      reply with quote


happy :)

In reply to tonights town council meeting and issues raised have set up a face book page to get the ball rolling and try spread the word of mouth. Allso to this couldf we not rise awareness from notices in local shops, pubs and signs (wall parer paste and scap wood/ply)

face book group is called HELP STOP SILSDENS PLANED WASTE TREATMENT SITE AND RAISE AWARENESS!!!!

it is a open public site so get on there if you have facebook and add every one you know in silsden and raise awareness happy :)
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03/03/2011 : 23:08:25      reply with quote


facebook has been yup for two hours, 112 people know more about the situation happy :). yet more to spread!!!
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04/03/2011 : 11:45:49      reply with quote


by what I have been told its going to be on the Sykes Lane site? if so it will not be visible from the road so can not see a problem may even be a couple of jobs for local people? if there is my name will be the first downrazz :p
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04/03/2011 : 12:45:34      reply with quote


Oh so it's not going to stink either?
In that case why isn't it closer to Bradford?
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Peter
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04/03/2011 : 13:47:41      reply with quote


quote
posted by localman
by what I have been told its going to be on the Sykes Lane site? if so it will not be visible from the road so can not see a problem may even be a couple of jobs for local people? if there is my name will be the first downrazz :p
Localman, read my post at the top of this page and get the facts - the site would NOT be on Sykes Lane.
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05/03/2011 : 14:53:50      reply with quote


Anyone intending to make a representation against this proposal and citing nearby housing as a reason for making alternative sites more attractive might be interested to know that Pennine Playgrounds has recently filed planning application 10/06083/FUL for the construction of 13 residential units on their current site in Keighley Rd.
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