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Topic : One rule for conservative peers another for the rest of us. |
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| victor |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Does anyone know if the two conservative peers who were released from prison today after only serving 3 months of a 12 month sentence will keep there peerages.Just for information they were fiddling there expences.Jeffrey Archer kept his after going to prison for perjury. |
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| localman |
what about Gorden Brown (Labour)he has cost every man jack of us thousands of pounds each he should be going to jail for at least 10 years he raided the pensions just like maxwell did  wish brown would also do us all a favour and throw him self in the sea and take that idiot Miliband with him |
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| old_miner |
Who cares whether or not Lord whatsit loses or uses a title after having served time. There is to much of this tag on justice at the moment. It is bad enough having a speeding fine, then endorsements, then victim? compensation. At least with motoring they are all up front. As far as I know losing a title is not an up front penalty for all crimes, so why tag it on. It is not justice, it is petty vindictiveness. As for good old Gordon who history will show did a good job in the banking crisis, and in a lot of other areas to. Obviously the petty tory propaganda machine is still using him to deflect away from their own hopeless chancellor, the first one in history who will have the economy going backwards. |
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| localman |
so raiding the pension funds of millions of workers was a good thing  |
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| victor |
Localman if you want to be political start your own post.The point I was making was that 2 peers were released after only serving 25% of there sentences,and that they were given there peerages for being good people.Now they are not good people how did they get off with 25% and should they keep there peerages,and not Brown did this and Thatcher did that.PLEASE KEEP ON THE SUBJECT. |
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| fatty |
does everyone thin k the same as me Localman is in his eliment when he stiring things up !!! |
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| steetonblue |
yep, you are better off leaving a conversation once he has chipped in or just plain ignore him, he's generally on the wind up |
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| fatty |
I agree, noted for future |
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| old_miner |
Localman is the local Tory propaganda person. Interesting that while the masses have their pensions reduced the bosses still have indexed linked pensions. I reckon Good Old Gordon did not hit some of the pension funds hard enough. |
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| DoubleD |
Don't want to get involved in any political arguments but why call a thread "one rule for CONSERVATIVE peers and one rule for the rest of us" and then start moaning when it starts to get political? If I remember correctly there were MPs and peers from all the main parties, including Labour, who dishonestly claimed expenses. |
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| localman |
spot on doubled whatch out now the Silsden branch of the dont say any thing wrong about the labour party will be on your case |
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| jonno |
forgive my ignorance regarding these peers I don't know and don't have time right now to look it up. so they fiddled their expenses, fraud presumably if they went to prison. I'm all for early release of prisoners who've not been violent so I don't mind them getting out early. on the peerage, why were they knighted(?) in the first place? has their crime undone what good they presumably did? can someone be stripped of a knighthood? is it constitutionally possible? Why not look into the matter further and present your arguments a bit more coherently and persuade us all to agree and get a letter campaign to your local MP going? Or did you just want to post and run and let us do the work for you? |
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| old_miner |
this post has been edited 3 time(s) Tory boss obviously. Wants the peasants to do all the work. Now all together: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale Bottom right to play |
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| localman |
they only play or listen to that rubbish in one country now Cuba  commumism is dead thank god |
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| jonno |
????? total thread derail by localman yet again. Shame your worthwhile postcount is no-where near your actual post count |
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| localman |
just a minute jonno I did not bring the communist international into the thread I just responded to it mister clever glogs |
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| jonno |
sigh! go on then I'll bite. Peers cannot be stripped of their titles except by and act of parliament being passed in respect of either specific peers or groups of peers meeting certain criteria. Don't believe me go look it up. Victor, what rule is it that you think has not applied to these MPs who went to prison? |
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| victor |
Jonno I dont recall anyone being released after only serving 25% of a sentance,do you. |
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| jonno |
Victor, I don't recall it no but then I don't go looking for such things, however, from the Guardian website... The Ministry of Justice said it did not comment on the release on individual prisoners but a prison service spokesperson said: "Home Detention Curfew [HDC] is available to low-risk prisoners serving sentences of more than three months and less than four years, who are deemed appropriate for early release. "To be placed on HDC, a prisoner must have served a quarter of their sentence and have spent a minimum of 30 days in prison." So, yep it happens all the time. - low risk .... check - sentence between 3 and 48 months .... check - served 25% of sentence .... check Congratulations prisoner number 6 you meet the criteria and can leave the island. So, Victor, although I agree these MPs are a disgrace, they are not actually getting any better treatment than other criminals. Whether they should loose their peerages is of course a different matter altogether and one on which I think we agree. |
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| victor |
Jonno as you say HDC is available, but to me people who are very very rich should serve at least 50% because a fine means nothing to them.I think it takes an act of parliament to take a peerage off someone. |
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| gazzer |
I wouldnt worry about peers being released from jail.....this is what you need to be afraid of A BRITISH al-Qaeda terrorist is free on licence after serving less than three years of his ten-year jail sentence. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3821586/Terror-Brit-Habib-Ahmed-out-in-3yrs.html |
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| jackal |
Another mp released early this morning after serving a quarter of his sentence in a open prison...... He fiddled 30k from the tax payer and I bet you the proceeds of crime act will not be used..... Why not I ask..... Day by day it seems the injustices of the legal system are getting worse..... Link provided below....... $&%# uk.news.yahoo.com/expenses-fraud-former-mp-freed-jail-075904945.html |
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