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Topic : LOCAL ELECTIONS 2015 - 7 May |
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| Peter |
This topic is set up for the local elections which will be held on 7 May, PLEASE DO NOT mix comments up with General Election topics. You really should not be voting along party lines for the local elections, it should be the best candidate for the job. |
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| ginjo |
do we know who the candidates are and what about silsden town council elections do we find out who the candidates are for that as well |
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| HurricaneHector |
Yes we will know, but only when the time for nominations has passed; it is only open from 30/03 to 09/04 then when they are collated it will be announced. |
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| Peter |
https://www.bradford.gov.uk/bmdc/government_politics_and_public_administration/democracy_and_elections/parish_town_council_elections |
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| paperclip |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Val Carroll is standing for Labour in Craven Ward. She's lived in Silsden for many years and is passionate about its future. Labour also has candidates standing for Keighley Town Council and Ilkley Parish Council for the first time. All the candidate info will be on line on Friday 10/04 |
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| gazzer |
quoteVal Caroll is standing for Labour in Craven Ward. She's lived in Silsden for many years and is passionate about its future. Labour also has candidates standing for Keighley Town Council and Ilkley Parish Council for the first time. All the candidate info will be on line on Friday 10/04 At last we can start asking the candidates questions with the first one for Val Usually at the council election Val stands and campains against large scale new housing in Silsden. If elected she fails to stop her party allowing large scale loss of the green belt, will she stand down? |
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| paperclip |
Hi gazzer. I'm not sure how asking candidates questions on silsden.net will work, what with the use of pseudonyms. How would you know who was actually replying? And if the questioner is anonymous surely the candidate would need to be too? I don't know who you really are for example. You could be a rival candidate even. But just in case you're thinking I might be Val, I'm absolutely not! Perhaps Peter will advise. |
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| Peter |
Gazzer's question seems perfectly valid to me and Val is standing as a representative of this area. In the past she has been perfectly capable of making a public comment through the Keighley News and getting publicity. If it's not possible to answer the question directly on this forum perhaps she would like to add it to the list when she sends a press release to the newspapers. I would also be very happy to post any press releases here if emailed to me. |
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| gazzer |
quoteHi gazzer. I'm not sure how asking candidates questions on silsden.net will work, what with the use of pseudonyms. How would you know who was actually replying? And if the questioner is anonymous surely the candidate would need to be too? I don't know who you really are for example. You could be a rival candidate even. But just in case you're thinking I might be Val, I'm absolutely not! Perhaps Peter will advise. Are you still a Labour Party spokesperson? |
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| paperclip |
Thank you Peter. gazzer's question is both valid and interesting. A press statement(but can't be one on every question individually posted) could be a good way to deal with things. This method would apply to all Craven Ward candidates of course? Not just to Val. To be fair, as you the site moderator and I as paperclip always are ---- Val has not gone for publicity in the Keighley News any more, indeed less, than other candidates you are happier with. Conflict is news. It sells papers. KN sought Val out on a Silsden issue which I won't discuss here. Not the other way round. These are very important elections at every level. Let's all try and play nicely. |
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| Peter |
I will restate the comment I made at the beginning of this topic You really should not be voting along party lines for the local elections, it should be the best candidate for the job. It would be really good if candidates for the local council positions could post their views on what they stand for here - I await the flood of emails  |
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| grandad |
Yes Peter you are correct, the best person for the job, is the way to go. But if there are not enough people willing to get up off their backsides and stand for the posts available; then there will not be an election to vote in, Then all the usual moaners on here will complain that it is not democratic! This Town needs people who will work for it, not just talkers. |
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| gazzer |
quoteThank you Peter. gazzer's question is both valid and interesting. Did you say you are a spokesperson still for the local Labour party?? |
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| paperclip |
No gazzer, I haven't said whether "I am still a spokesperson for the Labour Party" because it's a hostile a question; like "When did you stop beating your wife?" You don't have to be very bright to work out that I am a Labour voter though. That's not illegal yet is it? Even on Silsden.net? Who are you STILL a spokesperson for? |
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| GAMEKEEPER |
This argument is getting very petty. It came across as a simple question. Personally, I don't care if someone votes labour or the Monster Raving Looney Party (They are both the same to me). Anyone voting for labour, IMO wants their heads testing. |
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| ealteacher |
Quote: This argument is getting very petty. It came across as a simple question. Personally, I don't care if someone votes labour or the Monster Raving Looney Party (They are both the same to me). Anyone voting for labour, IMO wants their heads testing. Unquote Gamekeeper, You have just insulted millions of people in this country who pay taxes and who try to do their best. Apology please. |
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| Peter |
Before this topic looses focus... It's about the LOCAL ELECTIONS |
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| gazzer |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteNo gazzer, I haven't said whether "I am still a spokesperson for the Labour Party" because it's a hostile a question; like "When did you stop beating your wife?" You don't have to be very bright to work out that I am a Labour voter though. That's not illegal yet is it? Even on Silsden.net? Who are you STILL a spokesperson for? I speak for myself as always and have never claimed to be a spokesperson for anyone else. As you have said the following "I don't know who that "Conservative Party spokesman" is but I'm the Labour Party one- lucky me,(thin skinned but wearing body armour)" I thought it worth an ask I dont think asking if you still are is an hostile question. I thought if you are I could ask you, as spokesperson questions. That would be fair. But if you are not, it would not be fair. I do know you are a Labour voter because you said " I always vote Labour even when I can't be sure quite why". Thats fine because we live in a democracy and people can and hopefully will vote for who they want. |
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| gazzer |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quote To be fair, as you the site moderator and I as paperclip always are ---- Val has not gone for publicity in the Keighley News any more, indeed less, than other candidates you are happier with. Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "RE LAST week’s article – Call for greater accountability welcomed (Keighley News, April 2) – reporting Kris Hopkins’ support for extended powers for the Local Government Ombudsman to include larger parish and town councils. As he has taken Keighley Town Council to task about its lack of accountability, I thought he might be interested in a similar problem in Silsden Town Council. However, my two e-mails three to four years ago received no reply whatsoever. Could this be because Silsden district and town councillors are not Labour councillors, or does he not feel the need to represent people across the whole of his constituency? VAL CARROLL Labour candidate for Craven Ward " www.keighleynews.co.uk/features/readersviews/12881410.No_reply_to_e_mails_on_greater__accountability/ Im quite annoyed now that I cant have answers from Val yet she is in the paper complaining about not getting answers. Double standards or what??. Not much of an election campain if the candidates dont want to answer questions |
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| GAMEKEEPER |
quoteQuote: This argument is getting very petty. It came across as a simple question. Personally, I don't care if someone votes labour or the Monster Raving Looney Party (They are both the same to me). Anyone voting for labour, IMO wants their heads testing. Unquote Gamekeeper, You have just insulted millions of people in this country who pay taxes and who try to do their best. Apology please. Ok. I admit I might have been a bit heavy in my posting. I do apologise to that. When I s e the shower that run Bradford Met, which is Labour controlled and the blatant BS that comes out ot there day in, day out. I REALLY do not want a labour government. Add this to the fact that the labour leader is too much of the public schoolboy, not getting his own way. The policies that they propose are most certainly not what I want to see being brought to the table. |
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| Peter |
Again, I must remind you this is about local elections. There is a separate thread for the general election. PLEASE DO NOT MIX THE TWO |
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| ealteacher |
Quote Ok. I admit I might have been a bit heavy in my posting. I do apologise to that. Unquote Thankyou, Gamekeeper, for that. |
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| gazzer |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) Candidates Val Carroll..........SILSDEN Chris Atkinson.......SILSDEN Stuart Ebden.........EASTBURN The following two are listed for the Craven ward but do not live in the ward. I do not think its a mistake as its on Bradford Councils official list. Jack Rickard.........ILKLEY Janet Souyave........BURLEY in WHARFEDALE Can political parties really not find locals who we might know and meet in the street to ask questions?I guess there are only two types of people. Those who are lucky enough to live here and those who want to be here!! |
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| ginjo |
I see that next to chris atkinsons name in the t&a , no party is given, is he standing as an independent again? we have a green, a labour a lib dem and a conservative, no ukip or independent |
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| gazzer |
quoteI see that next to chris atkinsons name in the t&a , no party is given, is he standing as an independent again? we have a green, a labour a lib dem and a conservative, no ukip or independent I would guess Independent. I didnt list parties because this election is about people and how much they know the area and its needs.. I would hope they would vote against party lines if it does not benefit Silsden/Eastburn/Steeton/Addingham |
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| skippy |
ginjo you are correct I am standing again as an independent not a party line follower.1 year in and I have seen so much rubbish spouted by both major parties. it would seem that the tories have drafted a candidate from ilkley to represent our ward, I suppose he does live nearer than the last one(Shipley I think) good look to all who are standing,i awaite the dirty tricks and lies from a certain tory.please all make the effort to vote |
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| HurricaneHector |
As anybody else seen the letter in the Keighley News last week from Val Carroll, and the reply to it in this weeks paper? I think they make interesting reading. |
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| ginjo |
no, can you post it on here? |
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| gazzer |
quoteHi gazzer. I'm not sure how asking candidates questions on silsden.net will work, what with the use of pseudonyms. How would you know who was actually replying? And if the questioner is anonymous surely the candidate would need to be too? I don't know who you really are for example. You could be a rival candidate even. But just in case you're thinking I might be Val, I'm absolutely not! Perhaps Peter will advise. Now the list is out and im not a candidate, am I allowed to ask questions? |
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| gazzer |
Is it true LABOUR controlled Bradford Council have closed the public toilets? |
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| paperclip |
What is true is that the TORY led government cut Bradford Councils funding by nearly a third, with more cuts to come. No matter which party had the majority in Bradford difficult choices had to be made. We have 3 Cllrs, 2 Independent Tory and one Conservative. Perhaps we should ask them how they would manage the savagely reduced budget without that "Labour led" get out. You never know. They may have to, post May 7. |
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| gazzer |
Bet I know what the local Labour party's election strategy meeting went like 1,If anyone mentions cuts always say its the Governments fault 2,Any mention by the party of the word "independent" must be followed by the word "Tory" Takes more than that to fool me and stop blaming everyone else for Labour party decisions even though I understand its always gone on archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.co.uk/2008/06/gordon-brown-margaret-thatcher-is-to.html |
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| grandad |
quoteno, can you post it on here? No I don't know how to! but I have copied them from the papers. No Reply to e-mails on greater accountability. (in Kly news 09/04) She goes on about Kris Hopkins then says he might be interested in a similar problem in Silsden Town Council. My two e-mails three or four years ago received no reply. Could this be because silsden district and town councillors are not labour councillors,or does he not feel the need to represent people across the whole of his constituency? Val Carroll, labour candidate for craven ward silsden. Need to be proactive (in kly news 16/04) In her letter Val Carroll clearly demonstrates why she is unfit to be elected to represent the people of Craven ward. She is complaining that she sent two e-mails; three to four years ago (she can't even remember when she sent them) to Silsden Town Council and received no reply! I ask has she check to find out if they were received by the council? What has she done in the intervening time to get whatever information she required? Why hasn't she sent a follow up letter, even one by registered post to make sure it was received? Or she could have attended any one of the monthly council meetings, and asked in person during the public adjournments. But No! she sits and does nothing; but complain to anybody who will listen. The ward councillors who represent Craven Ward need to be proactive and get out to help their parishioners, like councillors Atkinson and Naylor have been doing. Craven deserves better than Val Carroll |
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| skippy |
paperclip ITAKE offence at being described as an independent tory, I am not a tory . you may wish to listen to what your labour leaders spout at you but I listen to the meetings and read all my emails from bfd and know whats going on not guess. labour run bfd is all about spending money in the centre of the city and sod all others, 47million pounds for a new swimming pool guess where?toilets closed everywere apart from guess were? do I need to go on ? WE COULD PAY FOR A FEW NEW SCHOOLS OUT OF THE 47,MILLION.VOTE LABOUR AND GET NOUGHT |
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| paperclip |
I apologise if I caused offence by referring to Skippy as an Independent Tory. I remembered Cllr Naylor fell out with the local Conservatives in 2010. He then stood as an Independent and I assumed Cllr Atkinson followed the same path. I'd be really upset if I got called a Tory so understand his anger. Surely the Bradford swimming pool thing is costed at £17 million not £47 million? Still a hell of a lot of money but it involves closure of 4 other Bradford pool sites which have a £7 million maintenance backlog. The way to get much needed resources and care into Bradford Mets outlying towns and villages is NOT to yell at people like me in ANGRY CAPS and rake up Silsden Toilets just in time for the election. It's about diplomacy and negotiation - not scaring us half to death with hostile posts. You never know, more people might be even prepared to stand for the Town Council if they weren't shaking in their shoes. |
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| old_miner |
Why on earth should the controlling political party put money into areas that vote for the other side? As this applies to all political parties it is always interesting to watch the whinging of the side missing out. You reap what you sow. |
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