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Topic : New Estates |
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| Corky Yorky |
Interesting article regarding new housing developments and peoples reactions! I think the same is to be said of ours!! https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jan/19/housing-giants-put-profit-before-peoples-needs-report-reveals |
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| Harvey spicer |
i have worked on sites for the big developers, and quality is secondary, its all about money, they dont build houses, they make money Last year, the housebuilder completed 15,855 homes and made an annual profit of £1.09bn – the biggest ever reported by a UK housebuilder. the only thing they care about , full stop !! |
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| hat |
I read somewhere that they don’t even make that much on houses, they make their money on land acquisition and sale |
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| Corky Yorky |
My concern is that once again green space and play space for families is compromised and marginalised in these new developments, inc the new development opposite Aldi that is proposed. Typically a little private garden space at the rear but virtually nothing towards the fronts of properties where children are likely to play together. Like the article says children are forced to play on the busy street amongst parked and moving cars. The way estates are designed needs to be radically changed. What has happened over the last thirty years is that the fronts of houses have become rears and vice versa, which means that the frontages of the houses and the areas around them (streets) are chocka and dangerous. Many private rear gardens are simply that..mostly private! Modern Estates should be designed to bring cars to the rear of properties rather than the fronts and the fronts should overlook quality green/play space. That way kids can be kept an eye on and play safe. Or at least a model that is similar to this! More green space = more meadows, more trees, more wildlife, more control! |
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| Corky Yorky |
Well it wasn't long before the BBC caught up with this story!! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51179688 |
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| Peter |
Dig up the pavements, you know it makes sense! I'm not suggesting pavements on main roads should be dug up, you just have to walk up Bolton Road to see most of the parked cars occupy half of the pavement (and this will be a main route to the new school. .... but on cul-de-sac roads and minor side roads we would all benefit from a lack of pavements. Cars would have to share the road with pedestrians and/or children playing in the road. Cars could park next to walls, and park at their peril if blocking a drive or doorway. If vehicles do not have priority of the road then they will travel slower and have to give way other road users, other vehicles and pedestrians alike. |
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| cars |
the area has been an eyesore for years, the more roofs, the more business's will benefit etc. etc. ....life moves on, for some ! ! |
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| Corky Yorky |
quote Dig up the pavements, you know it makes sense! I'm not suggesting pavements on main roads should be dug up, you just have to walk up Bolton Road to see most of the parked cars occupy half of the pavement (and this will be a main route to the new school. .... but on cul-de-sac roads and minor side roads we would all benefit from a lack of pavements. Cars would have to share the road with pedestrians and/or children playing in the road. Cars could park next to walls, and park at their peril if blocking a drive or doorway. If vehicles do not have priority of the road then they will travel slower and have to give way other road users, other vehicles and pedestrians alike. Well just when id thought id heard it all! absolute tosh! It seems that you would be happy to Iive like the 'streets of India' and some how be happy that here in England we have made progress!! What a bizarre suggestion. You may swell say build flats with undergounf=d parking and be done with it! Private vehicles will always be part of peoples lives until we have an infrastructure that can replace them...and that ain't gonna happen in your lifetime or even your children's lifetime and even likely beyond that,,so they will always need to be accommodated in a safe way. Their is currently already an argument by Brad Mets own landscape architect regarding the layout of the road and the safety of it with children etc..for the school, maybe you have missed it! |
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| Peter |
quoteCY don't be rude. I have lived on a street which doesn't have pavement for over 25 years (yes in Silsden) and the cars don't speed because they have to share the space with pedestrians. The road is not a uniform width (not wide enough for 2 cars to pass in some places) and it is not straight. There are some parking lay-bys for visitors to park in and few park on the road, BUT never permanently. Sadly roads like this on housing estates are not a Bradford Planning Policy and they insist on developers providing pavements which people can park on. Dig up the pavements, you know it make sense! |
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| Corky Yorky |
quote quoteCY don't be rude. I have lived on a street which doesn't have pavement for over 25 years (yes in Silsden) and the cars don't speed because they have to share the space with pedestrians. The road is not a uniform width (not wide enough for 2 cars to pass in some places) and it is not straight. There are some parking lay-bys for visitors to park in and few park on the road, BUT never permanently. Sadly roads like this on housing estates are not a Bradford Planning Policy and they insist on developers providing pavements which people can park on. Dig up the pavements, you know it make sense! Peter... I fully understand where your coming from, but these new houses are condensed estates, with little more than just parking lots to their frontages and a token bit of greenery! You on the other hand are in a large house with garages, and a good sized front and rear gardens..sounds like the Ramsay Street of Silsden! They won't build those types of estates anymore because developers won't get the money for them (so they say!) That's the point of the articles..developers are not making our estates sustainable, usable nor attractive places for children and families to enjoy. Any green space in developers eyes needs to be built on..so gardenesque frontages are no more..so our children have no where to openly play for adventure., other than amongst cars and traffic slow or otherwise. |
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| Peter |
 But wouldn't this estate be much better if there were no pavements? Not on the main drag which will lead to many more houses, but if there were no pavements on the side streets? BTW this is the proposed layout for the houses to be built on the Riverside land opposite Aldi. |
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| Corky Yorky |
I am very familiar with the estate. The plan would be far better if the central part of the development was green space with trees, rather than housing. Think how much the community would be happier having some green space for community events. Not only that if there were many of these spaces around Silsden what a stronger and more community orientated place we would have. Addingham are trying to join the dots...but here in Silsden we have none to join! |
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| dogcatcher |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) looking at the plan and on seeing the road that goes to nowhere at the back,is to sykes lane and to the pens that are already there, so looks like they are on there last few years before building goes on to there, right up to the canal below the houses that have just been built.The entrance to the new estate is just below aldi`s and opposite the little bridge with the iron gate on. |
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