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Topic : Traffic choas again |
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| gazzer |
Near Aldi, two jokers sat in their van most of the day only managing to dig a tiny hole in the footpath before disappearing by 4-00pm have caused nightmare tailbacks all day!!! |
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| thanet |
So thats was the problem then i coulded get round from steeton ended up going on by pass to kildwick and over tops only to find back log there too mainly due to two farmers chatting in their tractors lol |
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| jonno |
it's ridiculous, a small hole in the pavement! no need for two way lights!! |
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| robin |
You can report unnecessary use of traffic lights, speak to the council tomorrow, I will be doing so. |
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| Loafer |
I don't think you will need to Robin. Copper with blue lights turned up and turned it off. I suspect whoever set it up will be hearing from them tomorrow. |
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| robin |
Licences for traffic lights are granted, according to need, to create a safe working environment, with restrictions e.g 24 hour, 9 to 5 etc. remember when cable came to Silsden, the licence was for day time during work in progress, the company let them rum 24hrs. Untill someone complained. If they have a licence and are abusing it the council will take action. |
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| Peter |
Who would have thought a small hole in the pavement on Keighley Road, just down from the petrol station, could have caused so much traffic chaos. Traffic queued from the top of Bolton Road to a standing queue on the dual carriageway of the A629.  More pictures here news.silsden.net/archives/1624  Just think of the chaos which would happen everyday if access to Sykes Lane / Tesco was via traffic lights on Keighley Road. |
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| steetonblue |
I don't really have an objection to the lights whilst people are working there but like everyone else was very perplexed to drive past at 1730 to find no workers and a hole not in the road but in the pavement. I hope if these jokers are subcontracted from the Aldi works (and I have no idea if they are related to it) that they lose their contract. Absolute lack of consideration. |
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| Raver |
Peter's comment is a little scaremongering and I'm sure is tongue in cheek...! Access traffic lights to the Tesco site would of course allow traffic to flow in BOTH directions, only stopping the main traffic flow when allowing traffic to exit the site. Modern traffic control would also incorporate sensing devices to maximise the traffic flows. So not really comparable to a make shift one way system we saw today. However what of the Aldi development? - NO traffic control at all for that. Surely this needs more comment or is it one rule for Aldi and another for Tesco? |
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| gazzer |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quotePeter's comment is a little scaremongering and I'm sure is tongue in cheek...! Access traffic lights to the Tesco site would of course allow traffic to flow in BOTH directions, only stopping the main traffic flow when allowing traffic to exit the site. Modern traffic control would also incorporate sensing devices to maximise the traffic flows. So not really comparable to a make shift one way system we saw today. However what of the Aldi development? - NO traffic control at all for that. Surely this needs more comment or is it one rule for Aldi and another for Tesco? I think Peter makes fair comment but only at evening rush hour. Traffic without additional traffic lights already is a danger because in school term time, Monday to Friday, it backs ON TO The Aire Valley Trunk Road. FACT |
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| Spanish Omelette |
Peter Stick to the topic or risk getting closed down! PS - and start talking sense and not as an Aldi Promotional Manager!! German owned and never forget that!! They bombed my grandad's fish shop! |
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| steetonblue |
Aldi bombed Britain?wow, never knew that. |
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| gazzer |
quotePeter Stick to the topic or risk getting closed down! PS - and start talking sense and not as an Aldi Promotional Manager!! German owned and never forget that!! They bombed my grandad's fish shop! Hope you are OK this morning after eating Aldi sausage rolls and drinking coffee with Aldi milk last night!!!!! |
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| Listener |
At 6.15pm last night a police van pulled into Habasit then moved the cones, switched off the lights and waved the traffic through. Common sense prevailed. |
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| Peter |
quotePeter Stick to the topic or risk getting closed down! PS - and start talking sense and not as an Aldi Promotional Manager!! German owned and never forget that!! They bombed my grandad's fish shop! Oh dear!..... good night at at the football club was it, probably best not to post after you get in from a night on the pop.  PS Sorry to hear about your grandad's fish shop but I'm sure there are a lot of people living in Dresden who feel the same way about the British. |
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| Peter |
quotePeter's comment is a little scaremongering and I'm sure is tongue in cheek...! Access traffic lights to the Tesco site would of course allow traffic to flow in BOTH directions, only stopping the main traffic flow when allowing traffic to exit the site. Modern traffic control would also incorporate sensing devices to maximise the traffic flows. So not really comparable to a make shift one way system we saw today. However what of the Aldi development? - NO traffic control at all for that. Surely this needs more comment or is it one rule for Aldi and another for Tesco? Traffic is regularly backed up from the Steeton roundabout, but as was shown last night the presence of traffic lights made it significantly worse. The traffic lights were at the same point they would be if the proposed Tesco development went ahead, and it is suggested on the planning document that the cycle time of the proposed lights is 90 seconds. The cycle time for the one way traffic lights yesterday was 30 secs on green and a 15 sec turnaround time ie 90 seconds for a two-way traffic flow. Yesterday the traffic stretched up Bolton Road and around the corner (Tannery Corner). I walked along the traffic route to where the traffic lights were, at times I was walking quicker than the traffic - it took about 30 minutes for a vehicle to get down Bolton Road and through the traffic lights. It was not surprising drivers were frustrated and went like 'ell after getting through the lights - 40 mph what's that! The proposed traffic lights on Keighley Road would not be just for Tesco but also for the the 200 + houses which would be built when access is made available for the Sykes Lane development and any other houses built on adjoining land. That's a potential (say) 350 vehicles + Tesco traffic requiring access to Keighley Road via the proposed traffic lights. Be prepared for the traffic of yesterday to become an everyday occurrence Traffic Lights on Keighley Road is not the answer. A roundabout on the Belton Road junction might work, it would also solve the problem of getting out of Belton Road. Pictures of the traffic yesterday news.silsden.net/archives/1624 |
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| Raver |
Really we are just shutting our eyes to the bigger issue. Traffic is growing year by year, Aldi,Tesco and the Sykes Road housing are just part of the contributors to this. Yesterdays delays are just an example of what life will be like in Silsden. Only solution is to get rid of the through traffic and reclaim the town for the residents - We need A BY-PASS! |
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| victor |
Peter it's ok to complain about something that may never happen i.e. Tesco, but what concerns me is traffic using Aldi. I have just looked at the plans for Aldi and nothing is being allowed for traffic coming out of Aldi and turning right. Most of us know about the problems drivers have coming out of Belton road and turning right, and there will be more traffic coming out of Aldi than Belton road. The traffic light problem will be nothing compared to what we will be suffering in the new year. |
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| ginjo |
I don't really know how they got planning permission in view of access problems, I thought the access should have been from the rear so that traffic would use belton road, I suppose they can make it no right turn on exit so traffic will have to go down to the roundabout on the trunk road to come back, but traffic coming into silsden that wants to go to Aldi will be queing to turn right into it.It does not make sense to me |
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| dexter |
If you put a roundabout at Belton Road, that would solve the problem for both places. Traffic wanting to turn right out of Aldi would turn left and go down to Belton and swing back again. Just like the scheme at Aldi Skipton. Not a problem if some sensible thinking goes into it... 2 problems solved at a cheap price. |
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| victor |
Dexter good idea but why should we pay thousands of pounds for a roundabout, Aldi or Habisit should pay for it. |
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| pgp001 |
Everyone said that the traffic would be a nightmare at the Skipton Aldi. I pass it every day and very rarely even see a car entering or leaving Aldi. As for any queues there, well it just does not happen. My opinion is that you will hardly notice the Silsden Aldi traffic either. |
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| victor |
That is because someone had the sense to make all traffic coming out turn left and the way in is not crossing other traffic. Are you sure you went to Skipton ?. |
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| gazzer |
Aldi will not be much different to Steeton Morrisons or Lidl in Hayle |
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| pgp001 |
quote "Are you sure you went to Skipton ?" Not sure I know what you are on about, do you ? |
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| dexter |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteDexter good idea but why should we pay thousands of pounds for a roundabout, Aldi or Habisit should pay for it. with you on that one victor, Aldi could afford it easily, and gain some goodwill in the process. They could also have an advert on it, like on most roundabouts these days. |
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| Spanish Omelette |
Oh dear!..... good night at at the football club was it, probably best not to post after you get in from a night on the pop.!! Must have been all those Aldi sausage rolls going straight to my nervous system!!?? |
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| bobber |
I must be missing the point here and no doubt some keyboard warrior will put me straight on this, but, if there were no parking at all on the main street through Silsden, sacrificing a dozen or so parking spaces for people to get as near as they can to the chippy/post office/chemist, would immediately release a smoother flow of traffic through the centre. traffic lights at aldi/Tesco may also reduce congestion believe it or not. it works on the approach to ilkley. |
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| dexter |
bobber... you are so right... but no one listens. If we followed Crosshills, with no parking in the main street, there would be a massive improvement, but you can save your breath. I have raised this a few times before... but the powers that be are not interested. We must live with the congestion, extra pollution and extra risk. No one cares, certainly not the town council! |
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| bobber |
i'll get mee coat then. |
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| blob |
I think they just need to remove the space nearest the chippy as it causes a bottleneck and people driving towards Keighley Road to swerve into the oncoming traffic that has right of way. The parked vehicles do a good job of slowing traffic through town without stupid speed humps that damage your car and are hazards.... Oh yeah we have one of them! |
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| wheelaman123 |
How is it that we the people of Silsden can see the cause of the problem and the answer to fix it but the town planners seem to be from another planet. When they visit Silsden it must be during the night when there is very little traffic. |
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| Rosy Lea |
quote The parked vehicles do a good job of slowing traffic through town . Err Blob dont you think this is one of the main problems in Silsden? If the parked vehicles alone are good then why on earth did we require a speed hump? We think that there should be no parking on the main street. A major accident is waiting to happen near Bilaluci’s the butchers and The travel agent and also on the opposite side of the road near the pond with vehicles mounting the footpath bend to attempt to park! We were told that there will always be parked cars there as there are councillors that own the shops so have an interest in customers parking on there doorsteps. Whether this is true or not now we are unsure!! Lets start a campaign!! |
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| grandad |
this post has been edited 2 time(s) quotebobber... you are so right... but no one listens. If we followed Crosshills, with no parking in the main street, there would be a massive improvement, but you can save your breath. I have raised this a few times before... but the powers that be are not interested. We must live with the congestion, extra pollution and extra risk. No one cares, certainly not the town council! Dexter, you do not know what you are talking about! The then Parish council proposed a perfect solution to the Towns traffic problems back in the seventies, Bradford conducted a seven day survey and they agreed it was the best thing to do, then they totally ignored it and put in the third crossing outside twigs shop. So get off your anti Town council soapbox and check your facts first. The same goes for your Rosy Lea. |
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| Rosy Lea |
Well shiver my Timbers Grandad. You know we forgot to look back to the seventies for all the answers to our questions. The problems we are looking at are TODAY...yes Grandad TODAY. Also kindly get your facts right...We don’t remember saying anything at all about the TC!! Snore....ZZZZ snore!!! |
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| grandad |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteWell shiver my Timbers Grandad. You know we forgot to look back to the seventies for all the answers to our questions. The problems we are looking at are TODAY...yes Grandad TODAY. Also kindly get your facts right...We don’t remember saying anything at all about the TC!! Snore....ZZZZ snore!!! Rosy you are so predictable!, you jump in without getting your brain working, Dexter said," No one cares, certainly not the town council!" You said, "If the parked vehicles alone are good then why on earth did we require a speed hump?" The speed bump is not any such thing, it is there because Mallinson's mob couldn't get their ramp in without moving the crossing. History is important, by understanding it we learn not to make the same mistakes over and over again. I mentioned the events of the seventies because back then, (Probably when you were not interested in Silsden) a lot of us were, and after the sad death of a lady on the top crossing we tried to make the Town safer for all of it's residents, so here is a short history lessen for you. The Parish council suggested that the top crossing should be moved from outside the Town Hall down to where the Post office is, because most people cross the road there, and it gives the best view up and down Kirkgate, it would also provide an area where there would not be any parking due to the zig zags on either side of the crossing, this position on the bend in the road is where the main problem occurs due to large vehicles meeting there; not having been able to see each other before this point, the lost parking spaces could be move both up and down the road. This is what Bradford surveyed and agreed on but didn't do. And on the subject of totally removing the parking, an electronic survey was carried out at the same time using a devise called a golden river, it produced a chart showing all vehicle movements along the road over a one week period; split into all the different classes of vehicle, it showed that when there was little or no parked cars on the road traffic went at speeds up to 60mph through the Town. Those are the FACTS!!!! |
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