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wahiba
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17/01/2007 : 08:02:09      reply with quote


I agree with Terry on this topic.

By the way, it is not new. Over fifty years ago my mother, then a primary school teacher, was often approached about 'coaching' for the 11+. Her answer was always no for the reasons Terry gave.

Books and a readable daily newspaper are good places to start. Family days out to interesting places, and there are plenty around here. national museums in Bradford, Leeds and York for a start. West Yorkshire is only £6 transport for the whole family.

Give kids a life.
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alan
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17/01/2007 : 08:43:10      reply with quote


Well said "wahiba".

We also have a first class comprehensive at South Craven where all kids get the chance to realise their potential.

The trouble with the North Yorkshire selective system is that if kids fail the entrance exams they can get the feeling they'll be written off. This is far from the case, but North Yorkshire desperately hangs on to an archaic system of selection.
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17/01/2007 : 12:27:20      reply with quote


So when we don't nominate South Craven as first choice our kids get to go to Greenhead. That seems like a first class education selection. Let's see our kids realise their potenial at Greenhead.
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alan
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17/01/2007 : 12:43:09      reply with quote


No "derfas" that's not what happens.
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phill
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17/01/2007 : 18:46:15      reply with quote


Alan, South Craven got Foundation status this year and they are saying if you don't put s.c. as first choice then you might not get a place, I am on the pta and have followed this with interest. I also have a boy at Ermysteds and a girl at South Craven both are well rounded, clever kids and both ecided what school they wanted to go to, nothing wrong with choice
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alan
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17/01/2007 : 19:33:45      reply with quote


"phill" that's not what South Cravens current policy says.

I'd be very interested indeed to hear of any child in Silsden that has gone to Greenhead becuase they could not get in at South Craven.
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18/01/2007 : 07:40:18      reply with quote


As of yet the new rules have only just come in this year, they do not state that your child will have to go to Greenhead, but state that your child will not be offered a place before all the children who put South Craven have taken up their place. Therefore if it is full you have to go elsewhere = fOUDATION STATUS. Phone school and ask for a copy
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alan
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18/01/2007 : 08:01:32      reply with quote


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"phill" I do not think you are quite correct.

I think you will find if children live in Silsden and/or go to a Silsden school they will get in at South Craven.

I already have the very latest copy of the admissions policy, but thanks for the offer happy :)

But I am very concerned at your statement - "but state that your child will not be offered a place before all the children who put South Craven have taken up their place".

I'd be very interested in seeing a copy of that! If you'd like to e-mail to Peter a copy of the policy where it states that I'm sure he'd be kind enough to forward it on to me.
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wahiba
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18/01/2007 : 10:08:23      reply with quote


Real choice can only be based on a 'first come first served basis' if no other criteria are allowed. This is not new.

I passed my 11 plus, so went to the Grammar School. As the intake did not seem to vary from year to year I suspect the 11 plus pass level got adjusted each year to ensure the intake was up to numbers. Everyone else had to choose from three secondary schools, and as far as I know everyone got in.

Mind you there were also second chance exams quite a few used to come from the secondary school to the Grammar school sixth form. I opted out of the sixth and went to the local technical college on a full time course, more interesting.

This by the way was between 49 and 45 years ago.

The biggest difference seems to be:

The number of exams taken, quantity = quality ?
No need to include English and Maths (and that chicken has come home to roost)
Printing lists and league tables so forcing schools into teaching to pass exams rather than to educate (that chicken will soon arrive).

The rot set in with Ken Baker and the tories who percieved all teachers to be lay a bout left wing trendies who needed bring into line. A lot of labour thought the same. I always thought teachers were more right wing fascists!!!

History will probably give the crown as the best education secretary of recent times to Margaret Thatcher, and with good reason.

She created more comprehensives than any subsequent government.
She ensured the OU was funded provided to provide an HE option for everyone.
She ensure technical colleges were properly funded to provide vocational education.
She did not waste time on gimmick schools, league tables, dubious quality schemes, strange quangos and all the other dross that her sucessors, of both main parties, have saddled education with.

After being education secretary she went down hill, but that is another story.
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18/01/2007 : 19:52:55      reply with quote


Alan, as soon as i can post a copy of the foundation/trust rules/reulatons re admission policies i will post them on here

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alan
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18/01/2007 : 22:01:31      reply with quote


"phill" I presume you mean the admissions policy?

I'm very curious to see the statement you claim is in the policy.
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