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Topic : Discussions are happening about plans to move specialist Dementia Ward |
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| Snowdrop |
Bradford District Council want to move the dementia care ward from Airedale hospital to Lynfield Mount hospital in Bradford. At a recent Clinical Care Comissioning Group Consultation last month one of the members said " some conditions that need to be in hospital, care should be as close to home as possible " I am lead to beleive by an article in this weeks Craven Herald that elderleyeople would have to catch 5 buses for a 65 mile round trip. This cannot and should not happen. Has anyone any more information other than what is in the Craven Herald ? |
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| Snowdrop |
www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/11008433.Petition_launched_against_Airedale_Hospital_dementia_ward_closure/?ref=var_0 Please consider signing the petition. This move is not about what is best for patients and their careers. See article Craven Herald. It is about saving money . At a recent CCG consultation the manta was about keeping services local and accessible ! |
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| Snowdrop |
SAVE WARD 24 OUR LOCAL DEMENTIA CARE WARD Ward 24 located at Airedale General Hospital in Steeton is a good quality ward with an excellent reputation caring for dementia patients. Bradford District Care Trust [BDCT], who supply mental health care in this area, are going to move Ward 24 to their Lynfield Mount Hospital site in Bradford. BDCT are doing their job trying to save £300,000 that they pay to Airedale General Hospital in “rent” to use ward 24. We object to this closure and relocation of Ward 24 for the following reasons - -WRONG LOCATION to serve the area that BDCT serves. The catchment area of BDCT goes up to Ingleton and to get to Lynfield Mount bybus to visit will be a round trip of 90 miles using 10 buses taking 7 hours!Ward 24 is more centrally located and has a good bus and road network for people coming from Bradford and from the north. -NEEDS to be in a GENERAL HOSPITAL. Because people with dementia are generally older people with other, multiple and complex, medical conditions they need to be in a general hospital that can treat these other illnesses. Ward 24 is a phone call and a wheelchair journey away from, for example, an X ray, a CT scan or for ward 2, a medical ward in cases of dehydration. Lynfield Mount Hospital is a taxi or ambulance ride away from the Bradford Royal Infirmary and 2 staff will need to go with the patient all of which will be more costly and distressing for the patient. -NEEDLESS EXPENSE - WASTING £2,500,000. Ward 24 is a lovely,light, spacious and airy ward with a great reputation which BDCT has spent [to their credit] £500,000 on over the last 7 years. This will be wasted if it is closed and mothballed – we doubt Airedale General Hospital have a use for it. The new ward at Lynfield Mount is to cost £2,000,000 that we do not need to spend; we already have a great ward in the right place! Successive centralgovernments have set up the NHS into competitive units believing that it will bring efficiencies – THIS is NOT an example of an EFFICIENCY but of a WASTE of £2,500,000 to save £300,000 a year which is only a simple transfer of money to another part of the NHS ! We are "Ward 24 Carers Action Group" and we speak out for dementia patients who have no voice. PLEASE SIGN our PETITION call your Councillorand MP. Contacts rev.davidgriffiths@gmail.com and jonesca@talktalk.net |
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| Snowdrop |
www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/simon-large-to-keep-ward-24-open Link to online petition. |
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| Snowdrop |
If any shop, business, hairdressers, public houses etc are willing to have the explanation and signature forms in their premises please let me know and I will get copies to you. Thank you |
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| Snowdrop |
Please Silsden residents consider the implications for your families and you The plan will cause unnecessary distress to patients and carers. It is another waste of NHS resources. Short sighted planning, not long term. Please consider contacting me for an Information Sheet " Save Ward 24 out local Demetia Care Ward " and the signature form ? |
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| sandran |
Signed and passed onto friends.It would be terrible for this to happen. What a struggle it would be for elderly friends and family to visit regularly .People with dementia are often very scared and very unsettled at times and may benefit from visits every single day from a family member or friend who could help keep them calm or help with encouraging them to eat or drink . We never know what's around the corner with our health or that of our parents or grandparents. So please take the time to sign the petition. |
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| Snowdrop |
Thank you. It is encouraging to think at least 1 person is caring enough to realise the impact this could have. I am pleased you have passed this on to others |
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| Snowdrop |
I can appreciate that dog crap in Silsden is very, very annoying and has wide health implications abd therefore takes priority over every other topic But Please, please consider the long term implications of the proposed closure of Ward 24 at Airedale for your parents, careers, grandparents if we loose this valuable facility . Public transport has been cut in rural areas so access to loved ones may be an impossible option. Please read the above information |
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| GAMEKEEPER |
Petition signed. Given the size of Airedale General, the lack of specialist services availae there is cause for concern. There is no dermatology department, limited opthalmic surgery, limited oncology services. Given that recent reports show an increasingly aging population, the country needs MORE specialist services, that are accessible to all. |
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| ginjo |
snowdrop just because not many people have posted that they have signed the petition does not mean they have not! I did but I did not feel the need to say so on here, as I understand it there are well over a thousand signatures now |
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| adeythom |
Signed. Almost 250 signatures so far, so still lots needed! quotewww.change.org/en-GB/petitions/simon-large-to-keep-ward-24-open Link to online petition. |
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| ginjo |
I am sure I read in the paper that there were well over a thousand names on the petition.I am rather annoyed actually as since I signed the petition I have been inundated with e-mails from change.org about all sorts of things and when I try to unsubscribe there is a message saying that there are problems and I can,t do it at the moment.Had I know n all this I would not have signed online, it seems a bit dodgy! |
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| Snowdrop |
This was the link given in the article in the Craven Herald that I circulated. Presumed it was set up by the hospital. I am not aware it's is a dodgy site. I can understand that you are annoyed about been contacted about other things, I am too. Have just deleted them unless it was another good cause. |
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| Snowdrop |
Just been on change.org. I clicked on unsubscribe. Ticked all the boxes (apart from wanting to be updated from this petition ) and gave the reason for not wanting to be contacted about other petitions because it was a nuisance. Hope this is helpful. |
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| Snowdrop |
Just to be clear I did not expect people to post when they had signed. The prompt was because I had offered to take a paper petition to any shops, businesses etc. Naturally a little disappointed at no response . So good to know that people are signing so thank you to all |
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| midway |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) user wiped their message |
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| midway |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) user wiped their message |
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| steetonblue |
Any comment to add to your cut and paste? Also, is there a relevance to the google maps link? Most of us who are interested in the subject or want to know where Lynfield Mount is, know how to use google maps. |
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| Snowdrop |
I am given to understand that the Ward 24 Action Group were not contacted about the content of this article . I question the last statement. Someone has misunderstood about the travel issue. No one said it was about money. It is about the difficulty and stress caused by the length of the journey. It is likely that wives, husbands and partners may have physical, medical issues and learning difficulties , hearing and visual impairments themselves. It is stressful enough to have the "loss" and separation of a loved one without Long and complicated travel arrangements. I noted a reference to HomeBased Service. Homecare had been reduced to a skeleton service that cannot meet all the daily activities of living. "Find cost savings". It is about cutting budgets, planning these days is done on a here and now and no vision to the long term plan. The move would not best meet the needs of our community and we could find that there are insufficient places available in the future. This is short sighted management. |
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| Snowdrop |
Can I advise that people visit the NHS.uk page for Lynfield Mountand look at the rating and read the comments. This is a question for Nicola Lees. So much for a centre of excellence. |
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| Snowdrop |
Can I advise that people visit the NHS.uk page for Lynfield Mountand look at the rating and read the comments. This is a question for Nicola Lees. So much for a centre of excellence. |
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| FIELD |
www.keighleynews.co.uk/news/11157300.Distress_over_Airedale_Hospital_ward_closure/?ref=var_0 5500 names is a disappointing result. It doesn't sound promising. |
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| Snowdrop |
www.keighleynews.co.uk/news/11157300.Distress_over_Airedale_Hospital_ward_closure/?ref=mry |
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| Snowdrop |
Is there someone out there with legal knowledge to help with opposing this nonsensical plan ? It is not about the cost of the journey but about the physical, mental distress of the length of travel and accessibility to a loved one. Most partners will have mobility and health issues themselves. This is about a jobs worth person justifying management of finances. I challenge that this is about better care. |
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| midway |
Snowdrop Can i make the assumption you are part of the Ward 24 carers action group with Councillor Marshall,Councillor Lee & The Rev Griffiths as chairman,if this correct have you discussed the possibility of directing your petition at our local MP's with a view to petitioning parliament. please try link it explains better than i can (all the best). www.parliament.uk/get-involved/have-your-say/petitioning/ |
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| Snowdrop |
Thank you for your very helpful link which I hope someone from the group reads and actions. No I am not a member of the group , just a retired health professional and concerned member of the public carefully watching what the NHS is doing. Often this can be by stealth, to meet targets , cut costs, justify job role none of which no matter what they say is of benefit to the well being and holistic care of patients, the vulnerable and elderly. |
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| Snowdrop |
Thank you. I have passed the link on to the relevant people. The group had been in touch with the MP''s. |
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| midway |
Isn't it a pity more people can have an opinion about a football team,than have an opinion about the closure of ward 24. |
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| Snowdrop |
It as shameful that people have more priorities on other issues other than moving ward 24 from Airedale to Bradford. There needs to be more provision of specialised , appropriately trained staff to each clinical area . |
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| GAMEKEEPER |
quotePlease Silsden residents consider the implications for your families and you The plan will cause unnecessary distress to patients and carers. It is another waste of NHS resources. Short sighted planning, not long term. Please consider contacting me for an Information Sheet " Save Ward 24 out local Demetia Care Ward " and the signature form ? There appears to be a general move towards centralising all services. The NHS is no exception. With an incessant increase in the aging population, local services are increasingly important. Given the scale of Airedale Hospital, a wide range of specialist services should be available, yet these services are gradually being eroded. There is no dermatology unit, specialist eye/audiology units are based in Leeds or Bradford, cancer treatments are based in Bradford and Leeds. Airedale Hospital is less than 50 years old, it should be borne in mind that we will ALL need the services it provides sooner or later. The dementia unit is quite probably dismissed by the majority as of little or no importance until the services are needed. The bottom line is that ANY services lost will be permanent. Funding and NHS services will inevitably change year on year, but the general trend appears to be a reduction in front line services whilst increasing management and beurocratic services. |
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| Snowdrop |
Very well put Gamekeeper. Tho community will only realise the loss and implications when we have lost local services and there is no available funding to reinstate them |
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| FIELD |
www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/11222862.Mum_loses_fight_to_stop_son_going_125_miles/?ref=var_0 I appreciate that this case is slightly different, but it highlights the impact of such spending cuts within the NHS perfectly. |
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