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Peter
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05/06/2006 : 00:01:39      reply with quote


Is Silsden a village or a town. Can anyone shed any light on the subject?

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Silsden is home to some 9,000 people and has an elected mayor - it should be classified as a town.

I suspect that Silsden has never been granted a Town Charter. Instead it seems to be a Civil parish, under recent legislation Parishes can declare themselves towns. The current consensus on Wikipedia is that Civil Parishes should be categorised as such whether or not they declare themselves as towns. There are villages bigger than 9,000 e.g. Kidlington and towns smaller e.g. Cleobury Mortimer. The clinching piece of evidence would be a town charter or a market charter on the one hand or a resolution by the Parish council on the other. Another key piece of evidence would be a regular market or fair. MGSpiller 19:21, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

(The entry for Silsden in Wikipedia has been changed to refer to Silsden as a town rather than a village at the time of writing)
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I understand Silsden acquired 'town' status sometime in the 1960's whilst still as an Urban District Council.

Roy Mason wrote 3 booklets on the history of Silsden in around 1970. he said at the end on one of them entitled "Pennine Village" and I quote '...one more indication that Silsden was no longer an isolated village amid the envolping Pennine Hills, but a small town aware of its membership of the wider community.' In another booklet "A Village Tapestry" he says 'Silsden may now be regarded as a dormitory town, but it is a place for living, not just for sleeping.'

The 1972 Local Government Act s245 states: A local council can resolve that its area shall have the status of a town. Advice from the National Association of Local Councils advises councils to take note of local opinion when making its decision. We have a Town hall of course and a Mayor.

Come on guys Town or Village?
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gazzer
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05/06/2006 : 09:43:54      reply with quote


We have a TOWN HALL does that mean we are a town
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alan
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05/06/2006 : 15:35:24      reply with quote


Think it's summat to do with the population.

But, it sounds like one for "grandad" to answer! He was the first mayor when we changed to a town five years ago.

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Peter
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05/06/2006 : 17:59:02      reply with quote


No it has nothing to do with the population - but was it a town before it became part of BradMet?

A few more definitions to ponder over:


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A town is a residential community of people ranging from a few hundred to several thousands, although it may be applied loosely even to huge metropolitan areas. Generally, a "town" is thought of as larger than a village but smaller than a "city." The words "city" and "village" came into English from Latin via French. "Town" and "borough" (also "burrow," "burgh," "bury," etc.) are native English and Scottish words.

In England the main historical distinction between a hamlet and a village is that the latter will have a church, and will therefore usually have been the worship centre of a parish. A village was traditionally distinguished from a town in that:

A village should not have a regular agricultural market, although today such markets are uncommon even in settlements which clearly are towns.

A village does not have a town hall and mayor.

There should also be a clear green belt or open fields surrounding its parish borders.

The village should not be under the administrative control of an ajacent town or city.
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Ockin Peron
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12/08/2008 : 19:32:40      reply with quote


Is there any reason why it can't be both town & village?
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claymoreking
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12/08/2008 : 22:39:59      reply with quote


I've always said town - I think it sounds nicer. happy :)
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pumbajunior
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13/08/2008 : 07:39:40      reply with quote


i disagree id say village sounds better
there again when people say they are going into bradford or leeds they say there going into town
not going into city

i say if you wanna call it a town or village its upto you
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Alan Grop
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13/08/2008 : 11:55:36      reply with quote


Silsden is now almost alway s in bold print on most road maps. infact its often on the map when the local villages are missing.I cat understand why there are not more signposts to Silsden eg as you enter the bypass from Keighley,and when leaving Skipton as there is a sign for Steeton a small village with only 3 or 4 shops.
I Would call Silsden a TOWN.
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13/08/2008 : 13:42:00      reply with quote


Before being absorbed into 'Bradford' Silsden must have been a town, complete with town hall. Because there is a reluctance to delegate authority down to areas like Silsden it is in fact just a mixed industrial/residential area within Bradford and West Yorkshire.
However, by hanging on to the vestige of the original town council, and town hall, all is not lost. Bradford does not have any party with an overwhelming majority, so they all need our votes. I suspect there is more authority that could be delegated, but naturally the centre will hang on to power as long as they can.
So far none of the major political parties have used the 'promise' of more local power to gain votes. They might well do in the future, especially if proportional representation gains a foot hold - but do not hold your breath!!
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14/08/2008 : 17:53:09      reply with quote


Alan G.
Regarding road signs:when this issue was raised some years ago we were told that Silsden was too from the bypass for a local sign and not far enough away for what ever they call the non local sign. My own oppinion is that as the decisions are made in Keighley, Silsden's bestinterests will not be foremost. Silsden is not and never has been part of Keighley. They just need to realise it.
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alan
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14/08/2008 : 19:14:30      reply with quote


The decisions are NOT made in Keighley! 'shocked 8O'
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Alan Grop
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20/08/2008 : 08:41:28      reply with quote


IF so how come little steeton has a great big signpost and much bigger Silsden has a tiny sign.it doesnt seem right to me.
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05/10/2008 : 19:42:37      reply with quote


I have always thought Silsden was a small town and not a big village-though i don't know any facts behind it-Just my opinion!
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