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Topic : Tesco versus Aldi |
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| Snowdrop |
www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/11054120.Bradford_Council_urged_to_consider_two_Silsden_supermarkets_at_same_time/?ref What is known about Silvermantle ? |
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| gazzer |
I think they might also own Elland Road |
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| ginjo |
I googled the name and it would appear that the people involved in this company have their fingers in a lot of pies.I don't think they have anything to do with elland road.The main names that come up for directors/secretaries are weiss, adler and wing.No indication of what the company actually does but they are based in enfield |
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| Raver |
Where did this Aldi v Tesco thing come from? In Aldi's own submission they claim to be a small player offering a limited range at competitive prices. Tesco on the other hand offer a more comprehensive range - plus fuel. We should be encouraging both stores to locate in Silsden - giving everybody a choice. The Coop will need to raise its game and those local traders who can provide specialist added value will have nothing to fear. |
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| Alan Grop |
Both Stores should be built giving more choice for the people of Silsden.  |
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| old_miner |
Nothing is forever. Currently Aldi is riding high and Tesco and the Cooperative are both suffering due to bad management. Interestingly it looks like the Cooperative will probably get its house in order quicker than Tescos. Remember when the US companies were going to show us how it is all done. So where is Woolworth? Where is Safeway? Where are Borders? Wal-Mart played it safe and bought Asda. No doubt the parent company people might decide they know better than local Asda people. Of course it works both ways. M&S and Tescos both failed in the US market. How long before those barrow boys Morrisons and Sainsburys counter attack Aldi and Lidl? |
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| Zapperbull |
If we get a Tesco i can see it crippling the high street, the Jet garage will go and certainly a few other shops. We will then have even more empty premisses and a dead high street. It's not just a case of the co-op raising it's game here. |
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| hat |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) what eaxctly does the high street offer in terms of food shopping that Tesco or Aldi will cripple? we haven't had a viable green grocer in years, the butchers will continue to survive as they do today because people want the local provenance that they provide. There is no other general grocery store so what's going to go? the Co-op will compete or lose out. The petrol station is a scruffy waste of space anyway, it could do with going Unless Tesco start to offer hairdressing, takeaway or financial services i can't see much changing |
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| ginjo |
on the subject of high street shop, I tried to buy some meat from the butchers last week, the first butcher did not have what I wanted and the other one was shut for lunch! if they want people to use them then they need to be able to offer the products and the time.It is very old fashioned to close for lunch nowadays.Looking at the t&a today it would seem that tesco want to buy a strip of land from bradford council which will also open up the sykes lane housing estate.Now Bradford stand to gain here so I cannot see them refusing permission. |
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| grandad |
It is my understanding that Tesco's have not even put in any planning proposals, so why should Bradford give this fishing/spoiling exercise any consideration at all?? |
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| Golden Oldie |
Yes you are right Grandad, Tesco haven't submitted any plans yet, and according to the paper lastweek, they want the council to defer this weeks Aldi application until Tesco submit theirs. Bit bully boy tactics in my book. It would appear that they just might have tried jumping on the band wagon on hearing of Aldis plans. With luck, they will hit a brick wall as they have in Ilkley. But, if they are soft soaping BMDC by buying land to donate to Sykes lane, who knows!!! |
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| Spanish Omelette |
Both applications should be accepted. One to help out an existing well established local company (habistat) and supply baseline price food and the other to bring in a much needed quality foodstore and also to develop the area I call Shanty Town! |
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| gazzer |
quoteBoth applications should be accepted. One to help out an existing well established local company (habistat) and supply baseline price food and the other to bring in a much needed quality foodstore and also to develop the area I call Shanty Town! I agree the need for a quality foodstore like Aldi but we wont get a baseline store now Netto is no more. Not sure what catagory Tesco are in????? |
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| Peter |
Criticism has been directed at Tesco from various groups, both national organisations and individuals. One of the biggest criticisms it faces is the perceived threat it poses to small businesses due to the monopoly it imposes over products. There is also a belief that they use aggressive tactics to gain land and/or planning permission for building new stores. Other controversial areas concern the treatment of staff and customers, as well as their approach to foreign businesses. The Tesco supermarket chain is often involved in litigation, usually from claims of personal injury from customers, claims of unfair dismissal from staff, and other commercial matters. SOURCE en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesco |
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| Zapperbull |
The two butchers would be at threat, even the bakers could go, its all very well saying they don't have the items you want but i think a lot of town people do shop there. Peter is also correct, Tesco do not have a great track record in a lot of areas, also offering to buy this & that and give cash to the community if they get the store build is a bribe by another name. |
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| SilsdenBantam |
The Aldi has been agreed and will be up by April 2015. Hopefully the Tesco never happen as it will ruin the town. The extra traffic and impact on our shops will spoil the town forever. We have many supermarkets in Keighley & Skipton all only 5 mins away and a Co Op already in town. The Aldi will be a great addition |
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| Raver |
Aldi success - now for Tesco to follow! It seem hypocritical that those with the money to drive to Keighley & Skipton tell the less well off that they cannot have a local Tesco. Once again its the disadvantaged who have to subsidise the higher prices in the local shops and thus sustain uneconomic businesses in the name of a vibrant(!) high street, while the wealthy have the choice to shop at more competitive locations. Lets get Tesco on our doorstep! Aldi for the bargains, Tesco for the variety and the Coop for to give those who want it an alternative. PS - and we will still have those local shops that give a viable good service... |
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| ginjo |
who said the Aldi has been agreed? I am amazed, have they been told to change the entry and exit, I thought this would have been from Belton road but on the drawing I saw it said they were going to use the habasit existing entrance which I think is ridiculous.Was it Bradford planners who passed it? |
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| do-gooders |
planning application received on the 10/03/14 for tescos |
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| Dodzi |
Aldi application is still pending according to the bradford website |
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| Peter |
quoteplanning application received on the 10/03/14 for tescos Application numbr 14/01059/MAF |
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| Peter |
quoteAldi application is still pending according to the bradford website Decision on Thursday |
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| SilsdenBantam |
Ask the residents of Shipley as to what a super market does to a town. They start off ok but then they expand, increase the opening hours and under cut the local shops. Shipley is now the charity shop capital of the world and the local roads gridlocked. |
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| Peter |
I can vouch for Shipley being the charity shop capital of the area and the roads are very busy From the Tesco consultation evening held on 22/01/2014www.silsden.net/forum/philboard_read.asp?id=6142&recordnum=70 OPENING HOURS When asked this question the answer for 8am - 8pm, but when it was pointed out the Co-op opens to 10pm they changed the hours and said they would match the Co-op. Can we believe any of this? There were lots of other misleading statements made at the presentation evening, have a look at my post again and see what a Tesco would really bring to Silsden. www.silsden.net/forum/philboard_read.asp?id=6142&recordnum=70 |
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| SilsdenBantam |
The Tesco in lower Baildon had set hours as not to impede on local residents, then just blatantly ignored them and opened earlier & earlier. Plus the huge lorries did drop offs in the early hours of the morning. What they say & do are never the same. It's about profits not the local area. Silsden's Main Street will never be able to cope with such huge lorries & the increased traffic. Look at what Morrison's did for the centre of Guiseley! It's ruined that town |
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| Spanish Omelette |
What is the point of going on about other towns and odd cases that may or may not affect Silsden. Total rubbish! Lets concentrate on Silsden and not start prattling on about charity shops and other such things in other towns and area. If Tesco do not build then what next for the Shanty Town area? |
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| SilsdenBantam |
I see the concept of learning from other towns mistakes is far too much for you to grasp. Silsden will have to build more houses sooner rather than later, that area is prime for new homes rather than our surrounding fields. |
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| Raver |
Horrors - will the new Tesco close at 8:00? We should be pressing for a full 24 hour opening so we can chose to shop as and when we want. Clearing 'Shanty Town' makes great sense for such a valuable asset as it will be clear of most residents so no problem with noise etc. If Silsden is to match its potential and become the best dormitory town in the Aire valley it needs shopping facilities to attract our new residents. |
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| gazzer |
quote If Silsden is to match its potential and become the best dormitory town in the Aire valley it needs shopping facilities to attract our new residents. I want to live in a community not a dormitory town! |
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| Spanish Omelette |
quoteI see the concept of learning from other towns mistakes is far too much for you to grasp. Silsden will have to build more houses sooner rather than later, that area is prime for new homes rather than our surrounding fields. You never seen that area when it rains then? |
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| Spanish Omelette |
I want to live in a community not a dormitory town! Better move to Addingham, Ilkley or Elland Road then before its too late!! We're all doomed!!! |
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| skippy |
yippee aldi was approved this afternoon, thank you bfd planning panel, the silsden survey has been sucsessful again.the 80 odd full time jobs at habbisat are secure, brilliant news for our small town. dirty tricks by big companys don't always work. |
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| Spanish Omelette |
Good news. All we need now is approval for the Tesco application and then its into the 20th century here with come!! PS - Aldi are no minnows when it comes to the size the company! |
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| Marrywell |
Brilliant. |
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| ginjo |
were there any conditions applied ie traffic considerations, I cannot believe that the highways would agree to the proposed entry and exit |
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| grandad |
Great news Skippy! nice that Mallinson didn't get his way. |
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