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Topic : BBC Inside Out - that bicycle thingy |
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| Peter |
If you missed the BBC Inside Out programme on Monday - about Le Tour (and Addingham) then you can see it for a few more days here www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03wg799/Inside_Out_Yorkshire_and_Lincolnshire_24_02_2014/  .... and what are we doing in Silsden? .... find out here letour2014.silsden.net/news-2/ |
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| grandad |
Yes Peter I did see this program, I found it almost all in favour of the event but not much about the convenience it will cause to anybody wanting to go about their normal life! Then there was the bit about just how much the government intend to spend providing cycle tracks and the like for the riders! Why should all of those who do not now and will never ride a bike have to pay for those that do? they are always going on about the roads being unsafe for them to use, well here are a few suggestions, all cyclists must take training and pass a test, all must have third party insurance, all must pay some form of excise duty, before they are allowed out on the road! |
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| greengrass |
quoteYes Peter I did see this program, I found it almost all in favour of the event but not much about the convenience it will cause to anybody wanting to go about their normal life! Then there was the bit about just how much the government intend to spend providing cycle tracks and the like for the riders! Why should all of those who do not now and will never ride a bike have to pay for those that do? they are always going on about the roads being unsafe for them to use, well here are a few suggestions, all cyclists must take training and pass a test, all must have third party insurance, all must pay some form of excise duty, before they are allowed out on the road! Well said lets start with insurance and tax then the money they get can pay for there tracks. We can start with one going out off silsden and make a left turn just before the river bridge titter titter |
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| bogrunner |
quoteYes Peter I did see this program, I found it almost all in favour of the event but not much about the convenience it will cause to anybody wanting to go about their normal life! The biggest sporting event of its kind in the world is coming through our town, and you're complaining that it's inconvenient? Don't you think that's a little petulant? Yes, it's going to stop us moving around for a few hours. So what? It's only happening the once, and for many thousands of people it's a very big deal. I'm not interested in it either, but I'm just going to sit out in the garden, read a book and try to ignore the noise. quote It's called 'society' - we all club together, pay our taxes into a big pot, and then collectively decide what it gets spent on. Education for the young, pensions for the old, healthcare for the sick, transport infrastructure, the lot. You might not agree with everything it gets spent on, but neither does anyone else, so why bother whinging about it? Learn to live with the fact that different people have different priorities and we all have to live on this crowded little island together. |
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| grandad |
bogrunner, Why do you call it petulant just because I have a different point of view to you? The first point was that the program was not balanced, there are so many questions; but not enough answers. Good for you; sit in your garden I only hope you do not need an ambulance. The second point was that the program pertained to be trying to make cycling safer, but did not look at one of the main reasons cyclist get injured, I.E. the stupid way most of them ride! I have worked for the Road Safety dept on Bradford council, first teaching; then later testing cycling proficiency, I can assure you that most of the cyclists I see on the roads would not have passed the basic test given to children. |
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| greengrass |
You tell em granddad Im off fishing and yes before doggy says owt im not bothered if I blank |
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| shlozzy |
I prefer facts to speculation and perception... www.treehugger.com/bikes/cyclists-cause-less-than-10-of-bikecar-accidents.html Who causes accidents—cyclists or drivers?While there is a public perception that cyclists are usually the cause of accidents between cars and bikes, an analysis of Toronto police collision reports shows otherwise: The most common type of crash in this study involved a motorist entering an intersection and either failing to stop properly or proceeding before it was safe to do so. The second most common crash type involved a motorist overtaking unsafely. The third involved a motorist opening a door onto an oncoming cyclist. The study concluded that cyclists are the cause of less than 10 per cent of bike-car accidents in this study. |
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| grandad |
shlozzy, Just where in the UK is Toronto? The only one I can think of is in Canada! So what has these figures to do with anything over here? Who causes the collision (not Accident which is an unforeseeable event) Is not all that important at the time somebody is being injured, I am a Motorcyclist as well as a driver So the most important aspect is, what did everybody involved do to try and lessen or stop the collision. I have been taught that if something needs to be done make sure I am the one to do it, don't leave it to the other party, they may not do it. Also when on the roads especially when on the bike I ride defensively, by that I mean, make sure I am seen (Wear Hi Viz not black)I do not put myself where I am relying on others to do the rights thing, plus many more, all taught by the Institute Of Advanced Motorists! I do not pretend to be perfect, but I do strive to improve all the time. |
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| shlozzy |
Good reply Grandad. UK link to research here backs the toronto info up. www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3758677.ece I agree with what you are saying and I also strive to make myself seen, drive and cycle cautiously too. My point was was to inform and remove the "I.E. the stupid way most of them ride!" being the biggest cause. I agree also compulsory cycling tests at school, which I did when I was a kid. I notice many cyclists jumping off the kerbs onto roads and jumping red lights and they are looking to be a statistic! |
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| grandad |
shlozzy, also a good honest reply, Maybe I was being a bit to general when I said "I.E. the stupid way most of them ride!" I probable should have said some or even a lot of them. As a motorcyclist the same applies to the few idiots who we refer to as organ donors, unfortunately it is those riders who everybody notices and paints us all with the same wide brush. One point of difference though is; a lot of the pedal cyclists are a lot more vocal in blaming the drivers and not taking care of themselves, can you explain why they like to wear black? when hi viz would be so much safer. |
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events sale / wanted general have your say looking for.. skippy greengrass |
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